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August 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm #28902znModerator
Too much going on to even try to accurately tweet it. Looks like they called practice early. Total free-for-all.
— David Helman (@HelmanDC) August 19, 2015
Several spinoff brawls. Looks like practice is over.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) August 19, 2015
A melee between the Cowboys D, Rams O stops practice. Saw Tavon Austin threw a punch at Tyler Patmon that continued it.
— Todd Archer (@toddarcher) August 19, 2015
Fight went up against fence lined with fans and then started again between fields, Gregory involved whole way w/ no helmet.
— Brandon George (@DMN_George) August 19, 2015
Jeff Fisher and Jason Garrett talked, decided to end it. Cowboys working on their own. Rams boarding their team buses
— Jon Machota (@jonmachota) August 19, 2015
The Cowboys/Rams practice seems to be going well. pic.twitter.com/0yJicnirYU
— Not Tony Romo (@not_romo) August 19, 2015
JJ Wilcox loses helmet in fight, then Rams player tosses it to fan. pic.twitter.com/iep1sCKdzc
— Drew Davison (@drewdavison) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 8:56 pm #28903znModeratorI was watching Rams defense on other field, but told it all started when Randy Gregory dumped Tre Mason.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) August 19, 2015
@jthom1 G Rob got his helmet ripped off and then attacked a Cowboys DE.
— Christopher Dowell (@pikebishop) August 19, 2015
Second fight started when DE Randy Gregory threw Rams 77 to ground. Rams OT came from behind and jumped Gregory from behind. They went at it
— Brandon George (@DMN_George) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 9:09 pm #28904znModeratorSo the brawls shorten Rams practice by about 20 minutes. Nobody hurt.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) August 19, 2015
Jeff Fisher says he canceled Weds. practice here because team is tired. Rams will have a walk-through Weds, visit nearby. . .
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm #28906znModerator@DezBryant takes a shot from #Rams FB Zach Laskey during the brawl. Video credit @arnoldpayne #WFAACowboys pic.twitter.com/L3qPVgWqp2
— Joe Trahan (@JoeTrahan) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 9:20 pm #28907znModeratorGurley twisting & putting pressure on his knee all in a meaningless training camp fight. Real smart. https://t.co/9ElU7VZ665
— Nick Mensio (@NickMensio) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 9:34 pm #28908znModeratorAugust 18, 2015 at 10:06 pm #28911znModeratorThis takedown of Tre Mason by Randy Gregory is what started the brawl. Thx sharpie2626 pic.twitter.com/mKO2pbtW6F
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) August 19, 2015
August 18, 2015 at 11:27 pm #28914znModeratorCowboys-Rams practice brawls leave both teams searching for answers
Todd Archer
ESPNOXNARD, Calif. — The Dallas Cowboys and St. Louis Rams were unable to finish their second joint practice Tuesday because of a pair of brawls that has Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones wondering if there is something the Competition Committee can do in the future to help prevent them.
“I can’t imagine that we can’t continue to have joint practices and get this right just like we do a lot of things,” said Jones, who is on the committee with Rams coach Jeff Fisher. “But we’re going to have to continue to emphasize that stuff is not what we want. It should not be a part of our game. It’s not good for either team. Obviously, there are huge injury risks. We’ve just got to learn from it. I’d hate to think two teams can’t get together.
“When you see the energy level out here with the fans, they enjoy it watching the teams play. I do think we can continue to do this. I just think we have to emphasize we don’t want this in our game.”
The NFL has made eliminating in-game fighting a point of emphasis this year to teams, but Jones said training-camp fights were not part of the discussions.
Tuesday’s brawls happened in team drills between the Cowboys defense and the Rams offense on back-to-back plays.
The first fight was triggered by Cowboys linebacker Andrew Gachkar and Rams center Demetrius Rhaney, which then led to a multi-pronged fight that a number of players, including the Cowboys’ Randy Gregory, Jeff Heath, Tyler Patmon and the Rams’ Jared Cook, Tre Mason, Tavon Austin and others. Defensive end Eugene Sims ran across the field and leveled Cowboys defensive end Ben Gardner.
The second fight came on play later and lasted a few minutes and led to a helmet-less Dez Bryant getting punched by Rams cornerback Imoan Claiborne. Rams rookie running back Todd Gurley, who is coming back from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, was also involved.
Eventually Cowboys coach Jason Garrett and Fisher decided to end practice. The Cowboys finished their team period against each other while the Rams sat on the adjoining field and eventually made their way to the team buses.
“There is no excuse for it,” Fisher said. “You can’t blame it on anybody. It just happened. Fortunately nobody got hurt.”
Garrett, who was displeased with his team’s performance in Monday’s practice, declined to comment after Tuesday’s work. He didn’t necessarily discourage the flare-ups with players.
“Way to show fight,” defensive end Jeremy Mincey said of Garret’s postpractice input. “It’s always good to show fight but we got to be composed in situations like that and stay away from that. Fight with the pads and focus on the game.”
While Garrett has T-shirts with the word “fight” on it, it is not meant to be taken literally. Monday’s practice had a few shoving matches but Tuesday’s work was much more lively on both fields and eventually boiled over.
Bryant, who did not practice because of a hamstring strain, however, found himself in the middle of the fracas, running to the aid of his defensive teammates from the other field. Like he did in a fight with Patmon earlier in camp, he could not let it go and continued to yell at Rams players eventually retriggering things.
“You’ve got to catch it early,” Stephen Jones said. “There are no right answers. If there were right answers we would address it and get it fixed. It is a point of emphasis. At the end of the day it comes down to fines and sitting people down for games. Certainly it’s easier to do in a game. How we handle this situation out here, as a competition committee, as a league, as the Dallas Cowboys, Jason, Jerry (Jones) and I have to huddle up and say how we’re going to prevent this in the future.”
The Cowboys had a fight erupt at a practice last year with the Oakland Raiders that saw an Oakland fan swing a replica helmet at a Cowboys player. This year Rams receiver Daniel Rodriguez picked up J.J. Wilcox’s helmet and tossed it in the stands.
“I would be the first one to say I would love come back and practice against the Cowboys again because they are a talented team and first-class organization,” Fisher said.
August 19, 2015 at 12:50 am #28921InvaderRamModeratorThe second fight came on play later and lasted a few minutes and led to a helmet-less Dez Bryant getting punched by Rams cornerback Imoan Claiborne. Rams rookie running back Todd Gurley, who is coming back from a torn anterior cruciate ligament, was also involved.
gulp!
- This reply was modified 9 years, 4 months ago by InvaderRam.
August 19, 2015 at 12:56 am #28923InvaderRamModeratorYup. Todd Gurley (30) with the takedown… pic.twitter.com/f44kehpwuI
— Nate Latsch (@NateLatsch) August 19, 2015
August 19, 2015 at 1:49 am #28924AgamemnonParticipantHow close did Dez Bryant come to participating in one-on-one drills vs. Rams?
Jon Machota Email jmachota@dallasnews.com
Published: August 18, 2015 10:18 pmDallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant (88) watches practice from the sidelines with team owner Jerry Jones during a joint practice with the St. Louis Rams at Cowboys training camp on Tuesday, Aug. 18, 2015, in Oxnard, Calif. (Smiley N. Pool/The Dallas Morning News)
OXNARD, Calif. – The multiple fights between the Cowboys and Rams overshadowed some earlier fireworks in Tuesday’s practice.
Although Dez Bryant (hamstring) was held out of one-on-one drills, he was talking trash with several of the Rams cornerbacks, particularly Trumaine Johnson.
Johnson was taunting the Cowboys wide receivers by calling out the score of the drill, which St. Louis was winning.
At one point, Bryant lined up as if he was going to take a rep. As Johnson was still talking, Tony Romo told Bryant to go against the Rams fourth-year corner. Cowboys offensive coordinator Scott Linehan quickly stepped in and told Bryant to get out of the drill.
Bryant walked toward the back of the end zone, saying that there’d be no talking if he was out there.
“They can hold me all they want,” Bryant said. “I’ll catch it any way.”
Bryant was fired up after Monday’s session with the Rams, pacing back-and-forth and yelling in the direction of the Cowboys wide receivers as they did post-practice stretching.
Cowboys coach Jason Garrett talked before Tuesday’s practice about how much he loves Bryant’s passion.
“I love Dez Bryant,” Garrett said. “Our coaches love Dez Bryant. Our players love Dez Bryant. There’s a lot to love about Dez Bryant.”
“You certainly love his passion and love how much he loves his team and his teammates,” Cowboys chief operating officer Stephen Jones said. “But I’m not supportive of anything that has to do with something that ends up in fights and scrums and those types of situations.”
August 19, 2015 at 7:46 am #28927wvParticipantWell you had that first practice where Dez was upset and said
the cowboys lacked fire, so you had to figure at the next practice
the Cowboys would be more fiery — mix that with a Fisher team
and you are gonna get fights. I mean that was easy to see coming.I think the only way to prevent that kind of thing is to
have a “no talking” rule. I mean no talking by the players – period.
Its almost always the taunting that starts things rolling.As to what it ‘means’ — i dont think it means anything. I dont
think it means Fisher is a good coach or bad coach, etc.
I mean the Cowboys won twelve games and they were fighting.w
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