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January 29, 2017 at 5:12 pm #64516znModerator
Rams working out which of their free agents fit new schemes
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Rams working out which of their free agents fit new schemes
The Rams will have new looks on both offense and defense next season and one of the next orders of business this offseason will be figuring out how the impending free agents on their roster fit in those new schemes.
Cornerback Trumaine Johnson is at the top of that list. Johnson played out the 2016 season on the franchise tag and started 14 games as the lead corner on the Rams defense. Franchising him again would cost upwards of $16 million and a long-term deal would also be a big financial commitment, but Johnson’s size and experience stand out in the L.A. secondary.
General Manager Les Snead suggests that defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ opinion will be a big factor in how the team proceeds.
“That will be a big decision. Wade, like a lot of [defensive coordinators], likes good players on the outside. Trumaine fits that category,” Snead said, via the Los Angeles Times. “Trumaine is a larger guy with good ball skills and all things like that. Is it a square in a square, a triangle in a triangle or more a rectangle in a square? … That’s probably one of the top priorities when Wade walks in the door because, obviously, the magnitude of what his contract will look like and the magnitude of what another franchise tag looks like and everything in between.”
Wide receiver Kenny Britt is coming off what Snead calls his best season and gives the new offensive staff a similar task to work on before the start of the new league year. Snead said the team is putting the “brakes on all these decisions” for now, but it probably won’t be long before we know if the Rams roster will be shaken up like the coaching staff.
January 29, 2017 at 5:18 pm #64518znModeratorRams GM: Re-signing CB Johnson a ‘big decision’
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Trumaine Johnson played 2016 under the franchise tag. Now the Los Angeles Rams are stuck with another quandary in the secondary: How much do you pay the No. 1 corner in a mediocre secondary?
In a Q&A with Gary Klein of the L.A. Times, Rams GM Les Snead noted that the decision on Johnson could shape the offseason focus.
“That will be a big decision,” Snead said. “Wade (Phillips), like a lot of [defensive coordinators], likes good players on the outside. Trumaine fits that category. … Trumaine is a larger guy with good ball skills and all things like that. Is it a square in a square, a triangle in a triangle or more a rectangle in a square? … That’s probably one of the top priorities when Wade walks in the door because, obviously, the magnitude of what his contract will look like and the magnitude of what another franchise tag looks like and everything in between.”
Much will be made about the Phillips traditionally running a 3-4 while the Rams were built for a 4-3. Linebackers are a need for L.A., but the back end of the defense will be just as vital for Snead.
In 2016 there was little depth in the Rams’ secondary behind Johnson and Lamarcus Joyner, with the likes of E.J. Gaines and Troy Hill getting picked on mercilessly by opposing quarterbacks.
The 6-foot-2 Johnson is ideally suited for Phillips’ defense as a player that can be put on an island on the outside and matchup one-on-one with opposing No. 1 receivers.
Johnson owns the leverage — it would cost the Rams $16.8 million to franchise the corner again in 2017 — and could set the market for corners.
Los Angeles has about $40 million in cap space entering next season, per OverTheCap.com. Making sure Phillips has one stud corner for his system should be a priority for Snead.
Last offseason the Rams chose to tag Johnson over Janoris Jenkins. Now Snead is staring at the possibility of seeing another top-tier corner walk out of the building.
January 29, 2017 at 7:03 pm #64520InvaderRamModeratortrujo NEEDS to be re-signed.
they need to improve the pass rush and trujo will be fine.
they need another corner and a free safety on top of that for the secondary. maybe they have a candidate for free safety already on the roster.
January 29, 2017 at 7:58 pm #64521sanbaggerParticipantIf they don’t sign Tru it’s because they want to use the cap space on other signings.
I agree that Tru is an important signing and somebody is gonna pony up.
That said, I think the Rams have some pretty good young DB’s…Does Wade want to go in to next year with that corps and maybe a cheaper Vet? I wouldn’t think so but sure is gonna be fun to see how it plays out.
January 29, 2017 at 10:55 pm #64529wvParticipantI dunno. Sixteen million. I think Tru is a good solid player, but I think they might be able to sign a bigger playmaker than Tru for that kind of money.
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vJanuary 29, 2017 at 11:06 pm #64531znModeratortrujo NEEDS to be re-signed.
they need to improve the pass rush and trujo will be fine.
they need another corner and a free safety on top of that for the secondary. maybe they have a candidate for free safety already on the roster.
If they don’t sign Tru it’s because they want to use the cap space on other signings.
I agree that Tru is an important signing and somebody is gonna pony up.
That said, I think the Rams have some pretty good young DB’s…Does Wade want to go in to next year with that corps and maybe a cheaper Vet? I wouldn’t think so but sure is gonna be fun to see how it plays out.
I dunno. Sixteen million. I think Tru is a good solid player, but I think they might be able to sign a bigger playmaker than Tru for that kind of money.
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vBTW I haven’t formed anything like a “strong opinion” on this yet. So basically I am just thinking out loud.
But looking at money might be interesting.
Here’s the average annual amount for the top 10 corners solely in terms of what they’re paid.
Josh Norman $15,000,000
Darrelle Revis $14,024,212
Patrick Peterson $14,010,000
Richard Sherman $14,000,000
Trumaine Johnson $13,952,000
Joe Haden $13,500,000
Janoris Jenkins $12,500,000
Darius Slay $12,000,000
Byron Maxwell $10,500,000
Jimmy Smith $10,275,500January 30, 2017 at 1:18 am #64537AgamemnonParticipantFebruary 1, 2017 at 11:20 am #64626znModeratorDoes Wade want to go in to next year with that corps and maybe a cheaper Vet? I wouldn’t think so but sure is gonna be fun to see how it plays out.
To me, if they don’t sign Tru it could be because they want to use big money for someone/something else.
That’s just a guess.
It’s a good draft for CBs plus they have a few guys on the roster, with film on them too because they had to play some different guys.
Here are the snap counts from PFR, defensive snaps only. I include Joyner even though IMO he isn’t really a nickel-CB (more of a nickel safety).
Blake Countess CB 141 12.94%
Troy Hill CB 336 30.83%
Mike Jordan CB 177 16.24%
Lamarcus Joyner CB 700 64.22%
E.J. Gaines CB 614 56.33%
Trumaine Johnson CB 953 87.43%February 1, 2017 at 4:06 pm #64639sanbaggerParticipantTo me, if they don’t sign Tru it could be because they want to use big money for someone/something else.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Unless they have a big money “splash” type of, must have, FA signing they are lookin at…I think Truis back one way or the other.
Another thought is they designate him as non exclusive and that would ensure extra picks if they don’t match..I think that’s what I would do if we hadn’t reached an agreement by the deadline.
February 4, 2017 at 3:40 am #64793nittany ramModerator#NFL source: #Rams UFA CB Trumaine Johnson an even better fit for Wade Phillips defense than previous #Rams defensive scheme
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) February 4, 2017
February 4, 2017 at 9:29 am #64800znModeratorNFL source: #Rams UFA CB Trumaine Johnson an even better fit for Wade Phillips defense than previous #Rams defensive scheme
That could be interesting. Though, that sounds like an outsider speaking (NFL source, not Rams source). For all we know, it could be that Phillips himself doesn’t think so.
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