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  • #147919
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    from Mike Sando,

    NFL’s 12 biggest surprises of 2023 season

    https://theathletic.com/5159714/2023/12/25/nfl-biggest-surprises-tom-brady-baker-mayfield/

     

    Surprise No. 2: Los Angeles Rams field a top-five offense with Puka Nacua and Kyren Williams combining to average 207 scrimmage yards per game.

    We knew a healthy Matthew Stafford and a rejuvenated Sean McVay could make the Rams competitive. We did not think the Rams could provide the pass protection and running game to keep Stafford productive over a full season. We had no idea Nacua and Williams would average about as many combined scrimmage yards per game as 2018 Super Bowl Rams Brandin Cooks and Todd Gurley averaged (210).

    #147943
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    from NFL Power Rankings Week 17: https://theathletic.com/5161118/2023/12/26/nfl-power-rankings-week-17-ravens-49ers-mvps/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail

    10. Los Angeles Rams (8-7)

    (Last week: 10)

    Thursday: Beat New Orleans Saints 30-22

    MVPMatthew Stafford

    Los Angeles has won five of six games, and in that span, the 35-year-old Stafford has thrown 15 touchdown passes and two interceptions. In each of the last 10 years in which Stafford has played a full season, he has thrown for at least 3,700 yards. He is 11th all time in passing yards with 56,058 in 15 seasons after throwing for 328 yards and two touchdowns against the Saints on Thursday.

    #147944
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    Stafford needs 1293 yards to enter the top ten passing-yards leaders in NFL history.  Fwiw.

    Its mainly solid Hall Of Famers in the top ten, but not completely.  Philip Rivers?  Matt Ryan?  Eli is 10th right now.

    If Stafford played 3 more years, he would be in top-5 territory.

     

    Course plenty of Hall of Famers played before the rule-changes made it a passing league.

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    1 Tom Brady 89,214
    2 Drew Brees 80,358
    3 Peyton Manning 71,940
    4 Brett Favre 71,838
    5 Ben Roethlisberger 64,088
    6 Philip Rivers 63,440
    7 Matt Ryan 62,792
    8 Dan Marino 61,361
    9 AARON RODGERS 59,055
    10 Eli Manning 57,023
    11 MATTHEW STAFFORD 55,730
    12 John Elway 51,475
    13 Warren Moon 49,325
    14 Fran Tarkenton 47,003
    15 Carson Palmer 46,247
    16 Vinny Testaverde 46,233
    17 Drew Bledsoe 44,611
    18 RUSSELL WILSON 43,653
    19 JOE FLACCO 43,627
    20 Dan Fouts 43,040
    #147956
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    I was skimming that passing-yards chart and, of course, Brady is on top by a mile.   His career was just astounding.   But if you look at the names on that list — Marino, Elway, Rogers, Manning, etc — It never ‘seems’ like Brady was the ‘most talented.’

    But Brady’s talent was inside his head.  I guess.  Its the only explanation that makes sense.   He ‘processed’ things quickly, accurately.   Better than the rest.

    So, anyway, i kinda look at Kyron Williams that way.  He’s like Brady.  Hes not got elite-level ‘measurables’ like many star RBs.   But he does something ‘inside his head’ better than the rest of em.   I think.  I dunno.

     

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    #147957
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    But Brady’s talent was inside his head.  I guess.  Its the only explanation that makes sense.   He ‘processed’ things quickly, accurately.   Better than the rest.

    Yeah that was the thing with him. He processed things more quickly than anyone else. Which is why he never suffered a physical decline. His talent wasn’t all that physical in the first place. He just saw things and reacted more quickly than anyone else, and for lack of a better term also reacted correctly to what he saw far more often than not. I guess on top of that you can say he was also consistently accurate, which is a physical skill.

    #147959
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    All this praise lately on Matthew Stafford, and Puka Nacua.. but can we talk about Ernest Jones? Who is ranked in the top 9 in total tackles (132) arguably currently the best blitzing LB in the NFL, has 5 sacks, 5 QB Hits, and 13 TFL’s, and has a  @PFF grade of 81.5
    #147963
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    All this praise lately on Matthew Stafford, and Puka Nacua.. but can we talk about Ernest Jones? Who is ranked in the top 9 in total tackles (132) arguably currently the best blitzing LB in the NFL, has 5 sacks, 5 QB Hits, and 13 TFL’s, and has a @PFF grade of 81.5

    Yeah, i keep hearing celebrity-pundits describe the Rams defense as “Aaron Donald and a bunch of other guys no-one has heard of”

    Its a lazy way to do tv.   Non-analysis.

    Ram fans know all about Ernest Jones.  He’s not just a ‘guy’.

     

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    #147966
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    So, anyway, i kinda look at Kyron Williams that way.  He’s like Brady.  Hes not got elite-level ‘measurables’ like many star RBs.   But he does something ‘inside his head’ better than the rest of em.   I think.  I dunno.

     

    this is not exactly a controversial statement i’m about to make here. and i’m sure it’s been said on the board here before, but i’m gonna say it again. and i’ll probably say it again in the future. kyren is the rams most important addition to this offense since matthew stafford himself. i know nacua gets more accolades and maybe he even has a better overall career than kyren when it’s all over, but williams not only makes this offense harder to defend, but my feeling is that he will extend stafford’s career by at least another couple years if kyren can stay healthy. by far the best running back stafford has ever had the pleasure of playing with. already. and yeah. his ability to process things quickly is his strength. in a way that makes me like him more than gurley who relied more on his physical abilities which were otherworldly.

     

    to leapfrog jackson he has quite a ways to go. and there’s no way to predict that at the moment. but it’ll be fun to watch how he progresses.

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    Ram fans know all about Ernest

    And we understand the Importance of being that.

    #147971
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    Yards per game would be an interesting stat for those top QBs. Brady, as great as he was, had a huge advantage in any race for total career stats. He played so long, obviously. He gets major props for that, and for maximizing he naturals to the hilt, but I think a per game stat tells us a lot about which QB really played lights out, relative to all the rest of ’em.

    Agree with the “inside his head” comments on Brady and Williams. But I wonder about Rams MVPs right now. I don’t think the Rams have a shot at the Wildcard without both Puka and Kyren. They need both of them to remake this offense.

    Most yards or sacks or tackles or catches per game impresses me. Kinda like total career points in the NBA. LeBron recently passed Jabbar, and both players were/are amazing. But per game stuff impresses me the most, and when it comes to scorers, combine that with shooting percentages. If he has the most points per game, and shoots the best percentage, he goes to Olympus for me. With running backs and receivers, it’s most yards per game and highest average per carry and catch, etc. Getting even more into the weeds, yards after contact/catch, etc.

    Stats will drive ya crazy . . .

    https://www.espn.com/nba/history/leaders

    #147972
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    Ram fans know all about Ernest

    And we understand the Importance of being that.

    Pretty wilde that you chose now to say that.

     

     

    #147974
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    …. kyren is the rams most important addition to this offense since matthew stafford himself. i know nacua gets more accolades and maybe he even has a better overall career than kyren when it’s all over, but williams not only makes this offense harder to defend, but my feeling is that he will extend stafford’s career by at least another couple years if kyren can stay healthy. by far the best running back stafford has ever had the pleasure of playing with. already. and yeah. his ability to process things quickly is his strength. in a way that makes me like him more than gurley…

     

    Yes, and its just really good team-building by Mc/Snead.   They did a lot of things right.   Added lots of puzzle pieces and achieved a synergy of sorts.

    I mean, McV self-evaluated and apparently, saw the need for a more physical run component.

    Then Snead drafted the big Guard and added the vet from the Steelers, etc.

    And they added Nacua partly because he’s physical and willing to block.

    And of course that shift helps Stafford stay healthy and feel confident and stay in third and short situations, etc, etc.

    So, yeah, i agree about KW but its also kinda hard to separate the puzzle pieces and see them separately.    Its just a really cool ‘whole’ that they all put together this year.  And what makes a lot of us kinda smile, is – there’s no OBJ, no Vonn Miller, no Jalen Ramsey, etc.   Its kinda fun to see a group come together like this.

     

    Course if they lose to the Giants, they are bums and the offensive coordinator should be fired.

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