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October 16, 2023 at 10:17 am #146160znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorI’m glad the Rams weren’t able to trade into the first round, because all the players they were looking to get are not doing great. And Steve Avila is a STUDOctober 16, 2023 at 10:42 am #146163znModerator
Q: Witherspoon been a stud all season. What an underrated signing. Seemed like all 3 safety’s, Yeast and Lake in particular were excellent in firing downfield and squeezing some of those underneath passing windows. Those 2 seems to be getting better at playing that style.
Jourdan Rodrigue
I am really impressed with those three safeties, they can move them all over the field which is the point as they’re playing way more C3 disguises now, and using the dime and 2ILB “base” looks more as well.Fun backstory – McVay was so paranoid about showing anybody that crash motion (my phrase) with Higbee that he didn’t install it until Seattle week…when practices are totally closed to public and even media only sees individuals. It is a really creative concept – teams can’t tell pre-snap what type of run it will be because Higbee starts on the back side of the formation.
Q: One question: I thought when McVay suggested they got talked out of some of their running plays, he was alluding to the Card defensive looks, which is what you wrote. But after giving it some thought, I was wondering if he might have been referring to coaches upstairs. Is there any chance he was talking about his staff?
Jourdan Rodrigue
I am almost certain he was referring to the looks – they were shifting their front a lot and not thinking they, or anyone other than what he and Stafford are seeing, is literally “talking” him out of anything. Could be wrong but almost positive was slang for the pre-snap looks and shifts they had not seen on tapeOctober 16, 2023 at 11:19 am #146168znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorWhen asked about the rushing yards, Rob Havenstein called Tyler Higbee the unspoken hero of this team, crediting him for his blocking ability.Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Raheem Morris deserves so much credit for what he’s accomplishing with this group on defense for the Rams.Finished as the 3rd best defense in EPA and 4th in success rate yesterday. While they rank 22nd overall in EPA this season, they’re 11th in success rate.
Aaron Donald likely isn’t in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation right now. However, this season is arguably some of his best work in his Rams career.
Elevating the guys around him. Kobie Turner, Jonah Williams, Byron Young, etc. all finding success next to AD.
October 16, 2023 at 2:50 pm #146178znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams OL PFF Grades in Week 6:Alaric Jackson: 51.8 RBLK | 75.8 PBLK
Steve Avila: 51.7 | 69.2
Coleman Shelton: 57.3 | 77.4
Kevin Dotson: 83.7 | 73.8
Rob Havenstein: 84.1 | 74.910 total pressures. Dotson was the 2nd-highest graded offensive lineman in the NFL for the week.
PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Byron Young: 87.3 PFF grade vs the Cardinals ??1st among ALL rookies in Week 6
(minimum 25 snaps)
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Top five offensive grades:
1 – Matthew Stafford, QB: 90.0
Stafford earned an “elite” mark in this game and completed 15 of 24 passes for 226 yards and a touchdown. He had two other potential scores dropped by rookie WR Puka Nacua and TE Tyler Higbee.Overall, the veteran had four big-time throws against Arizona which was his second-highest output of the season. He led the NFL in such throws coming into this game and should hold onto his top spot. Stafford had no turnover-worthy plays and had a clean effort. His adjusted completion percentage of 84.2 was by far the highest he’s had this year.
2 – Cooper Kupp, WR: 87.0
Kupp caught 7 passes for 148 yards and a touchdown while accounting for nearly two-thirds of the team’s receiving production. It was a dominant effort for the star receiver and his chemistry with Stafford was on display in this one.3 – Kevin Dotson, RG: 86.1
Dotson has been a top guard in the NFL so far this season and currently ranks 12th of 83 players that have at least 83 snaps under their belt. The Rams acquired him just before the start of the season without giving up much in the way of draft capital. Joe Noteboom—who entered the season as the starting RG—should be fully healthy soon but LA should stay the course and keep Doston in the lineup.4 – Kyren Williams, RB: 84.8
Williams had 20 carries for 158 yards (7.9 average) and a touchdown. He was not as active in the passing game as we are used to seeing from him.Still, it was an impressive day for the second-year back and he ran as physically as we’ve ever seen from him—including an angry run at the goal line where he stiff armed a defender in the backfield and then ran through a pack of three Cardinals to break the plane.
5 – Rob Havenstein, RT: 82.7
The right side of the line fared well in run blocking. Havenstein has been very reliable for Los Angeles and usually only runs into trouble when facing the more elite pass rushers in the NFL. This was certainly one of his stronger performances.Other notes on offense:
Interestingly, it was a stark drop in the grading between the fifth-highest player and the next in Tutu Atwell (62.7). Coleman Shelton and the left side of the offensive line fared well in pass blocking grades—all were 69.2 or better—bet did not grade out well in run blocking despite Williams racking up 158 yards and averaging 7.9 yards per carry.
Top five defensive grades:
1 – Byron Young, OLB: 87.3
Young had five total pressures including a strip sack on Josh Dobbs. He was also active in the run game and recorded four stops.This was probably the most complete effort we’ve seen from the rookie. He’s flashed at times as a pass rusher, but he was consistently disruptive in this game.
2 – Aaron Donald, DE: 85.2
Donald led the defense with seven total pressures, though his run grade (84.9) finished notably higher than his pass rushing mark (74.9). The star defensive end had three stops. Donald ranks fifth in the NFL in total pressures on the season and is behind only Maxx Crosby, Aidan Hutchinson, Bryce Huff, and Chase Young.3 – Ernest Jones, MLB: 82.5
The man in the middle of LA’s defense had an active day with 10 tackles and an impressive run defense grade of 90.7. Jones was targeted twice in coverage and allowed just one completion for nine yards (14 came after the catch point).4 – Cobie Durant, SCB: 81.4
Durant has struggled at times this season, but this was his strongest came yet in the 2023 campaign. He was targeted only twice in coverage and allowed a single reception for 17 yards with two pass breakups. The second-year corner has a slight frame and can sometimes have issues tackling, but he graded out well with a mark of 82.1.5 – Jordan Fuller, DB: 80.0
Fuller was targeted six times and allowed only two catches for 13 yards and a passer rating of 42.4. He also had five tackles and aligned in the box on 12 plays—so he was involved in the game as more than a deep coverage player.Other notes on defense:
Three other members of the defensive line also had a strong effort. Rookie DT Kobie Turner had an overall grade of 77.6 (sixth). DE Jonah Williams (76.8; seventh) had a key sack that took the Cardinals out of field goal position. Michael Hoecht (74.7; eighth) was tied with Young with five total pressures and hit the quarterback twice. He was targeted twice in coverage—which has been a complaint by fans—and allowed two receptions for 21 yards (20 after the catch).
October 16, 2023 at 8:23 pm #146193znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Notable PFF grades from @RamsNFL
W6 win over ARI, and there were an abundance of very good marks:Stafford 90.0
Young 87.3
Kupp 87.0
Dotson 86.1
Donald 85.2
Kyren 84.8
Havenstein 82.7
Jones 82.5
Durant 81.4
Fuller 80.0
Turner 77.6
Jonah 76.8
Hoecht 74.7October 16, 2023 at 8:37 pm #146196znModerator— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 8:40 pm #146197znModeratorRB1 is for the kids 🥹💙 pic.twitter.com/Er2RaHkLGu
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 8:54 pm #146200JackPMillerParticipantThe #Rams run the risk of being down two RBs:
— RB Kyren Williams, who rushed for 158 yards yesterday, suffered an ankle injury, left without a boot but is getting an MRI.
— Backup Ronnie Rivers is believed to have a PCL sprain that could keep him out a few weeks. MRI coming.— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 8:55 pm #146201znModeratorAllen Sales@AllenSalesIt wouldnt surprise me if Zach Evans has a great game this Sunday. Dude was a 5 star prospect out of Houston and played well at TCU and Ole Miss. Watch his tape… dude is physical at contact and always drives forward. Looking forward to seeing what he can do..
Your time to shine, Rook pic.twitter.com/KvbhnitLFn
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 9:05 pm #146203znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
“All the credit to Sean, just coming out there and trusting us,” veteran RT Rob Havenstein said. “A chance to get out there and set your pads, truly, and not really let what they were doing affect what we wanted to do. I think that was illustrated in that first (Q3) drive.”Underdog NFL@Underdog__NFL
Cooper Kupp’s ranks among WRs since his Week 5 debut:22 targets (4th)
15 receptions (4th)
266 receiving yards (4th)Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Byron Young had five pressures against the Cardinals. It’s his third game this season with five or more pressures.Leads rookies at EDGe in pressures this season.
JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
Byron Young has been everything the #Rams NEEDED him to be coming into this year. Through 6 games:1st in pressures among all rookie EDGE
2nd in sacks among all rookie EDGE
2nd in pass rush productivity among all rookie EDGE
3rd in pass rush win rate among all rookie EDGE
T-8th in true pass set pressures
10th in tackles for EDGE
12th in defensive stops for EDGE
15th in EDGE pressures
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Ramsoholic@ShayTweetedThat
The second highest rated GUARD in football ? Kevin DotsonBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams GM Les Snead deserves so much credit for the Kevin Dotson trade. An underrated move like the Austin Corbett trade, but has been extremely impactful.Over the past three weeks, Dotson has been the 5th-highest graded OL in the NFL.
The Dotson trade has made the right side of the Rams offensive line one of the best in the NFL.
Over the past three weeks…
Dotson: 5th-highest graded OL via PFF
Havenstein: 7th-highest graded OL via PFFBrandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
Best rookie OL so far this season: Rams LG Steve AvilaOctober 17, 2023 at 1:49 am #146209znModeratorKevin Cole@KevinCole
Most interception-worthy throws (v. actual interceptions) according to @FTNDataMac Jones 14 (4)
Desmond Ridder 11 (3)
Sam Howell 10 (5)
Josh Allen 9 (4)
Ryan Tannehill 9 (4)
Jimmy Garoppolo 9 (6)
Joshua Dobbs 8 (0)
Jordan Love 8 (3)
Kenny Pickett 8 (4)
Justin Fields 8 (5)
Jalen Hurts 7 (3)
Patrick Mahomes 7 (4)
Daniel Jones 7 (6)
Tua Tagovailoa 6 (3)
Geno Smith 5 (1)
Justin Herbert 5 (1)
Derek Carr 5 (2)
Zach Wilson 5 (4)
Brock Purdy 4 (0)
Dak Prescott 4 (1)
Baker Mayfield 4 (2)
Bryce Young 4 (2)
Joe Burrow 4 (2)
Russell Wilson 4 (2)
C.J. Stroud 3 (0)
Anthony Richardson 3 (1)
Lamar Jackson 3 (1)
Deshaun Watson 3 (2)
Trevor Lawrence 3 (2)
Jared Goff 3 (3)
Kirk Cousins 3 (4)
Matthew Stafford 3 (5)October 17, 2023 at 1:56 am #146210znModeratorOctober 17, 2023 at 5:37 pm #146221znModeratorRookie running back Zach Evans is slated to make his first career start this week in wake of the injuries to Kyren Williams and Ronnie Rivers.
Evans certainly is not without skill. A big back who is not afraid of contact and has the speed to extend the play! pic.twitter.com/4pjiQVXnXx
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 17, 2023
October 17, 2023 at 5:43 pm #146222znModeratorThe highest-graded edge defenders in Week 6 pic.twitter.com/C8FczJA93u
— PFF (@PFF) October 17, 2023
October 17, 2023 at 9:02 pm #146231znModeratorThe highest-graded QBs in Week 6 pic.twitter.com/Lv13rWSF5C
— PFF (@PFF) October 17, 2023
October 17, 2023 at 9:05 pm #146232znModeratorD'Marco and I both got a kick out of seeing RT Rob Havenstein give the @AndrewWhitworth hand signal to "run it again" in Sunday's second half.
Apparently, the @RamsNFL head coach enjoyed it, too. Enough to call Big Whit after the game. 😂 pic.twitter.com/3ZwsLo17CD
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) October 17, 2023
October 17, 2023 at 9:36 pm #146234znModeratorTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Rams CB Salary Rank: 32nd
Rams S Salary Rank: 29th
Rams Pass TD Allowed Rank: 1st
Rams COMP% Allowed Rank: 3rd
Rams Passer Rating Allowed Rank: 7th
Rams 1st or 2nd round picks in Secondary: 0Raheem Morris job interviews next year: A lot
HoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Ahkello Witherspoon and Kevin Dotson are facing their former team this Sunday vs the Steelers, these two have been phenomenal underrated pickups from the front office. Ahkello has had a top 5 coverage grade and Dotson is the 2nd highest graded guard in the NFL.October 17, 2023 at 9:48 pm #146236znModeratorNFL Rookie Watch@NFLRookieWatxhByron Young wasn’t recruited at all coming out of high school, and ended up taking two jobs at Dollar General and Burger King.
One day, he saw a flyer about a tryout at Georgia Military College, tried out, and ended up making the team.
After just one season, Young gained the attention of many D1 schools and committed to Tennessee.
Young dominated at Tennessee, and turned himself into a third round pick in this past NFL Draft.
Now, Young leads all rookies in pressures (25) and QB hits (8) through six weeks.
October 17, 2023 at 9:50 pm #146237znModeratorYoung dominated at Tennessee, and turned himself into a third round pick in this past NFL Draft.
You know who else was Rams 3rd round pick out of Tennessee?
Leonard Little (in 98).
October 17, 2023 at 10:39 pm #146239InvaderRamModeratori like young at the edge. not trying to diminish what he’s done so far and look for him to continue to improve, but i would still like to see another edge opposite him next season.
i also like evans’ profile on paper but want to see him do it on the field. athletically he’s the best rb the rams have.
and a dominant end to help donald out would be cool. maybe with the rams first pick in 24?
also this may be the season the rams finally lose morris to a hc job. that would be a shame but also would be happy for him.
October 18, 2023 at 12:06 am #146240znModeratorbut i would still like to see another edge opposite him next season.
Could Mathis be that guy? Against the Eagles he had 2 pressures in 10 snaps and 1 qb hit in the ARZ game. His first time playing all season was against the Eagles.
October 18, 2023 at 2:16 am #146242znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTPass rush stats this season… Byron Young: 25 pressures, 10.4% win-rate, 74.2 Pass-Rush grade via PFF Leonard Floyd: 16 pressures, 9.8% win-rate, 66.9 pass-rush grade. Floyd leading in sacks, but BUF has played teams/QBs that have given up a lot of sacks in 2023..roberto clemente@rclemente2121headed into week 7 the rams defense ranks #13 in offensive points allowed, and #9 in offensive tds allowed per game. note: offensive points allowed calc assumes tds scored = 7 points, i.e. 2-point conversions and missed pat ignored).October 18, 2023 at 9:35 pm #146272znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_RamsKevin Dotson: highest-graded guard in the NFL this season – 85.3October 18, 2023 at 9:40 pm #146275znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinMcVay jokingly clarifying comments from last week on impending fatherhood: “I’m not going to miss a game. My son knows better than to come during a game.”October 18, 2023 at 10:04 pm #146281 -
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