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September 26, 2023 at 8:38 pm #145687znModerator
pff qb rankings thru wk3: pic.twitter.com/GzK1vSYUNj
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 26, 2023
September 27, 2023 at 10:56 am #145693znModeratorstaff was sacked 6 times by cin according to the stats, but he was actually dumped a total of 8 times (2 were erased because of penalties).
thomas is the clear star of the show, but williams didn't pick up a blitz, note+hav got beat, and avila got tied up a couple of times. pic.twitter.com/fRk2VFvTBk
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 26, 2023
September 27, 2023 at 1:02 pm #145697znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121thru week 3pff – pass blocking
havenstein #55 out of 67 tackles
jackson #59 out of 67 tackles
shelton #22 out of 35 centers
avila #47 out of 76 guards
noteboom #70 out of 76 guardsno rams olineman ranks in the top half of the league in oline pass pro according to pff.
September 27, 2023 at 1:03 pm #145698znModeratorRams Fans United@RamsFansUnitedJoe Burrow passer rating: 59.8, they threw the ball almost 70% of the time, 2.9 yards per rush, 4.7 per pass attempt, Rams offense out stated them in most ways, really tough game to lose. Had Rams won, story would be about Bengal’s offense..September 27, 2023 at 1:06 pm #145700znModeratorRams' PFF grades show Aaron Donald was outstanding, and the offensive line was, well, not good. Noteboom's pass-blocking grade was 0.0 and Thomas' was 8.6.
More grades available here: https://t.co/FSfh4mNUdK
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 26, 2023
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[from link above]
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DT Aaron Donald: 92.9
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OLB Byron Young: 85.8
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LB Ernest Jones: 80.7
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CB Derion Kendrick: 72.6
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DT Kobie Turner: 68.2
Donald was unblockable Monday night, recording seven pressures and five stops. He was by far the Rams’ most effective defender.
Young also had a good night, generating five pressures and five stops of his own. He seems to be getting better by the week, which is encouraging for a Rams team that’s lacking edge-rusher talent.
Jones made nine tackles and didn’t miss a single attempt, only allowing two catches on five targets, as well.
Kendrick was picked on often by the Bengals, but he gave up just two catches on five targets for a total of 19 yards with one pass breakup.
Turner had three pressures as an interior defender, a good number for the rookie.
September 27, 2023 at 10:21 pm #145707znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinMcVay after reviewing Atwell play vs. Bengals: “It’s an imperfect deal and it doesn’t change whatever that decision is…. And if that’s the call that’s made, we’ve got to figure out from the three-yard line how do we punch that thing in.”.Cameron DaSilva@camdasilvaLes Snead said Sean McVay wants to get other RBs involved beyond Kyren Williams and knows his current snap pace isn’t sustainable.roberto clemente@rclemente2121thru week 3 the rams pass defense ranks top 7 in the following categories: #1 pass tds allowed #5 completion % allowed #6 qb rating allowed #6 3rd down pass conversions allowed #7 pass yards per attempt allowed.JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGENAhkello Witherspoon is off to a blistering start with the #Rams. QBs have a 22.0 passer rating when targeting #Rams CB Ahkello Witherspoon. This is seriously the pickup of the year by Les Snead. What a gem. Guy clearly had it just suffered a bad hamstring injury last year and ruined his season..Rams Tapes@RamsTapesOLB Byron Young leads all rookie edge defenders in sacks (2.0), quarterback hits (6), and pressures (13). @byron_97.Los Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRDB Derion Kendrick is tied for 8th in the NFL in pass breakups (3), tied for 4th in incompletions as the primary defender (11), and tied for 14th in passes defended (3).September 27, 2023 at 11:22 pm #145712znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorLes Snead on the Coach McVay show just now on Noteboom and Alaric: “All the news we got back is good news, now it’s just rest and recovery on a short week and I think we can get that done” Looks like we’re gonna be okay up frontSeptember 28, 2023 at 3:00 am #145714znModeratorrams wr: number of games with multiple td catches
bruce 12
hirsch 11
kupp 10
holt 10
fears 7
jackson 7
snow 5
ellard 5kupp knocking on the door. pic.twitter.com/QkHZEJfnyb
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 10:11 am #145715ZooeyModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorLes Snead on the Coach McVay show just now on Noteboom and Alaric: “All the news we got back is good news, now it’s just rest and recovery on a short week and I think we can get that done” Looks like we’re gonna be okay up frontThat’s a good thing.
September 28, 2023 at 10:37 am #145716InvaderRamModeratorthat’s great news. rams offense was in deep doo doo when jackson went out.
hopefully he comes back healthy. hopefully noteboom. and then next week kupp.
September 28, 2023 at 11:16 am #145718znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorLes Snead on the Coach McVay show just now on Noteboom and Alaric: “All the news we got back is good news, now it’s just rest and recovery on a short week and I think we can get that done” Looks like we’re gonna be okay up frontThat’s a good thing.
that’s great news. rams offense was in deep doo doo when jackson went out. hopefully he comes back healthy. hopefully noteboom. and then next week kupp.
Cowherd had a line I remember when he was first saying after the games 1 and 2 that the Rams are surprisingly ahead of where most expected them to be in 2023. He said they look like they can compete, but they have no depth.
Sounds like what we saw Monday night.
Except also on Monday, in response to some disasters, McV (IMO) brain froze. I put a lot of that game on coaching too. I just think that for all his brilliance, McV is not always nimble tactically, in the moment. He seems more of a Trust the Plan kinda guy, and less of a “well now that we’re in the moment let’s switch things up” kinda guy.
September 28, 2023 at 3:45 pm #145721wvParticipant.. I just think that for all his brilliance, McV is not always nimble tactically, in the moment. He seems more of a Trust the Plan kinda guy, and less of a “well now that we’re in the moment let’s switch things up” kinda guy.
Probly true, but i also think McV is the kind of guy that emphasizes what I’ll just call ‘self-critique’. I think he can keep improving at least a little in that area because he will look at his own weaknesses and tinker with them, etc.
Maybe. I dunno. Seems that way to me. Unlike, say, Martz.
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September 28, 2023 at 6:55 pm #145726znModeratorMike LaFleur shared his take on the Rams abandoning the run on Monday night, saying the Bengals were essentially daring them to throw it.
So, they didn't want to keep banging their head against the wall trying to run it https://t.co/4rnCCKzXGd
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 6:57 pm #145728znModeratorNext up in the flashback through my eight consecutive 1,000-yard seasons is 2007. #TBT
This season was a true grind, and the closest I came to missing the milestone during the streak. It also gave me a deeper appreciation for what the milestone would mean to me going forward,… pic.twitter.com/D3PLt9Lxhm
— Steven Jackson (@sj39) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 7:02 pm #145731znModeratorSee, this is what I don’t understand. Every fan and pundit on here was screaming for McVay to slide Joe Noteboom over to left tackle during that game. I agreed. But he didn’t do that. Now he’s saying he should’ve? 🤦♂️ This makes me very worried about’s Sean’s in game judgement. https://t.co/Qpl2U0fLbD
— TY (@tbearde) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 7:05 pm #145732znModeratorI was wondering how many of you were paying attention. 🤣
Of his 4, two were tipped balls that resulted in a pick, and the other 2 could have been avoided if his WR (looking at you Van Jefferson) didn't round off his route on one, and actually come back to the ball on the other. https://t.co/mq0OC20FfO
— SeattleRams (@seattlerams_nfl) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 7:20 pm #145735znModeratorCameron DaSilva@mdasilvaSean McVay has done an excellent job moving Tutu Atwell around with pre-snap motion, and the result has been a historically low press-coverage rate for the third-year WRSeptember 28, 2023 at 7:22 pm #145736znModeratordeacon jones on this play:
1. tips the pass that causes the interception.
2. throws the block that turns the pick into a td.
3. is the first guy to congratulate clancy on his pick-6.
4. is the first guy to hustle off the field.
5. 1967, deacon was 29. pic.twitter.com/oaytR7gR4E— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 28, 2023
September 28, 2023 at 7:24 pm #145737znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilvaPuka Nacua ran a 4.57 at his pro day, but he’s showing he’s faster than his 40 time. This season, he’s already hit 21.05 mph on a route, which is the 6th-fastest on any route run in the NFL so far in 2023September 28, 2023 at 7:50 pm #145739ZooeyModeratorFacemasks when men were men, and not little girls.
September 29, 2023 at 10:11 am #145744InvaderRamModeratorExcept also on Monday, in response to some disasters, McV (IMO) brain froze. I put a lot of that game on coaching too. I just think that for all his brilliance, McV is not always nimble tactically, in the moment. He seems more of a Trust the Plan kinda guy, and less of a “well now that we’re in the moment let’s switch things up” kinda guy.
well as lafleur said in that article above. if the bengals were indeed daring the ram to pass at what point do the rams switch to passing or do they just keep pounding the ball until it doesn’t work? do you have to keep the opposing defense honest and at least respect the possibility of passing? and would they have been effective without jackson there anyway?
but also as wv said mcvay does seem to have the ability to self-criticize. still young in coaching terms. i guess we’ll find out.
September 29, 2023 at 10:18 am #145745InvaderRamModeratorand then there’s this quote.
So there was a lot of runs called that unfortunately had to get checked out of it into some passes and some of the results were good and some of them weren’t as good.
so some of those runs were checked into some passes. i don’t know. i think either way. rams were screwed when jackson went out. even if the rams ran it every single time in the red zone the loss of jackson and then noteboom would have been difficult to overcome.
September 29, 2023 at 12:17 pm #145746znModeratorand then there’s this quote.
So there was a lot of runs called that unfortunately had to get checked out of it into some passes and some of the results were good and some of them weren’t as good.
so some of those runs were checked into some passes. i don’t know. i think either way. rams were screwed when jackson went out. even if the rams ran it every single time in the red zone the loss of jackson and then noteboom would have been difficult to overcome.
Except the chances to run it in the redzone came early in the game when Jackson was still in the game. In the previous 2 weeks the Rams were 2nd in the league in getting TDs in the redzone. They were in the RZ for 2 series early in the 1st half, and came away with 6. As a result this week they are now 13th in the league for TDs when in the redzone. (That stat is here: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct ). So is this just a one game thing? Except for the fact that with only one year as an exception, McV’s entire career with the Rams, they have been mediocre to merely average at best getting TDs in the redzone. So it’s an old thing…and arguably not just one game. This is actually a very old McV issue.
RZ issues aside, among the other tactical things the Rams didn’t do in the heat of the moment was to switch up the blocking schemes to give Thomas help. So it doesn’t reduce to a run/pass thing, although across the years McV has shown that he can abandon the run too easily.
People don’t have to take this as some kind of blanket criticism of McV. His areas still deserving of criticism are very specific. In terms of the “he’s still young argument,” though, for me, 7 years of that is a lot. He has improved in a lot of areas, but some seem to keep showing back up. At the same time if asked, I always rank McV about equal to or just behind DV as the best Rams coach since I started following them. So this is not an issue of “being too hard on McV” or any of that.
I just try to be dialectical about this. The overall picture of McV is a bright one, in lots of different ways. But when a game goes south in ways that directly have to do with longstanding coaching tendencies, I wonder if he is improving in those areas (like tactical, in-game vision)–it’s just a matter (to me) of a balanced picture.
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