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June 13, 2021 at 5:20 am #130450znModerator
Sean McVay expects to rest his starters again this preseason, which could cause the Rams to add some help in free agency. https://t.co/O0Y6BTtrAZ
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 13, 2021
June 14, 2021 at 1:23 am #130460znModeratorEvan Silva@evansilva
Lombardi says #Rams were willing to trade Robert Woods (possibly for third-round pick) to make room for Julio Jones. Deals just never came together.HoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Falcons probably wanted woods + a pick in return for Julio and I’m sure that’s when the Rams moved on. Woods is in his prime, reliable, severely underrated and there’s no way in heck Sean McVay was trading him.June 14, 2021 at 8:39 am #130463znModeratorThe Rams have a trio of options behind Tyler Higbee, but who will step up as TE2? https://t.co/jkZiisavQE
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 14, 2021
June 14, 2021 at 10:05 am #130464znModeratorfrom Adam Schein:
https://www.nfl.com/news/nine-nfl-bandwagons-to-hop-on-in-2021-tennessee-titans-joe-burrow-and-brandon-stCam Akers
Los Angeles Rams · RB
I am very high on the Rams this year, believing they will represent the NFC in the L.A. Super Bowl. Akers is a huge part of that. He became the guy at running back down the stretch last season, and it changed the Rams’ offense. While Jared Goff was morphing into a double agent at quarterback — giving the ball to the other team at an alarming rate — Akers was emerging as a star.Everyone took notice during his boffo effort in the Week 14 win over the New England Patriots on Thursday Night Football. Twenty-nine carries for 171 yards against Bill Belichick’s defense turns heads. But that wasn’t a one-off. The guy was a stud in L.A.’s two playoff games, piling up 221 rushing yards and two touchdowns, along with 51 receiving yards.
I spoke with Sean McVay on SiriusXM Radio a few weeks ago, and the Rams coach raved about his running back’s versatility. He’s clearly excited about what Akers can offer in Year 2. I think the former second-round pick can become a legit top-10 running back this year for a championship-caliber team. I loved Jonathan Taylor and D’Andre Swift at running back in the 2020 draft. I’m still on board, especially with Taylor. But don’t sleep on Akers.
June 14, 2021 at 10:08 am #130465znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/14/rams-cooper-kupp-brad-holmes-senior-bowl/
Lions GM Brad Holmes, who was formerly the Rams’ director of college scouting from 2013-2020, shared a story of how Kupp stood out at the Senior Bowl in 2017, which really caught the Rams’ eye. His testing numbers weren’t the best, but he was uncoverable at the Senior Bowl and his GPS time was the fastest in Mobile.
“I’ve told the Cooper Kupp story — that’s more of cognitive bias, in terms of just every time you saw him play football, the guy was good, you liked him. But I remember we saw him at the Senior Bowl, he was the best player on the field. Nobody can cover this dude. He looked explosive. And his shuttle and all that kind of reflected that, but his 40 time was in the 4.6s. He did it at the combine and at the pro day, so the last thing in your head was that 4.6,” Holmes told Chris Burke of The Athletic.
“But, I’ll never forget, it came out that his GPS time at the Senior Bowl was the fastest. So, it’s like, “OK, now that makes sense.” But it was because he was playing football. He looked fast, he looked explosive on the football field. In tights, on that Eastern Washington track, it didn’t look fast.”
June 14, 2021 at 11:05 pm #130475znModeratorRAMZILLA@elitster
Listening to Flying Coach w Peter Schrager/Coach McVay it’s been great hearing the behind the scenes w Zac Taylor, Matt LaFleur. Sounds like LaFleur could disagree w McVay keep him grounded/humble/identify blind spots. Who on the Rams coaching staff is doing that now?June 14, 2021 at 11:06 pm #130476znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
On Bobby Brown III and Robert Rochell (I’ll start here with Brown linked), it was interesting to get a feel for the team-building model. One of the Rams’ greatest assets is that they have elite players in Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey (duh), but beyond the on-field, frontingthe draft capital (Ramsey) and drafting/paying Donald did force the team-build strategy into turning middle-round picks into necessary contributors – but, because you have a Donald and a Ramsey, you only have to draft certain complementary traits to them.
In Brown, the Rams see a player whose ceiling is as a starter, yet whose floor can still be as a key role-player based on athleticism alone.
The likelihood of “successfully” hitting on a middle-round player increases if you’re specifically and accurately identifying just a few traits, and less-so looking for a “complete” player or a dart-throw who might be a luxury pick (I’m just talking about these specific 3 guys as
we know Rams certainly have a history with luxury picks). It seems obvious, sure, but it also removes certain inefficiencies in the process itself, from the scouting/draft portions of the year to the actual player-development part. I use the word “ecosystem” because of how each
piece interconnects. For Brown, they followed a similar pattern/sought similar traits as SJD, because of how well he and Donald complement each other schematically. Because Donald is on the roster, Brown won’t ultimately be asked to play outside of those maximized traits, which
could hinder or even ruin long-term development. Instead, he may be asked to do the things that complement Donald, where the traits that got him drafted are maximized. That speeds up his window to getting on the field, which best-case means he’s a cheaper starter, for longer, and
that means they can continue to afford the big Donald contract. If players get more starting experience earlier, may improve terms of second contract (in Rams case, comp picks). Similarly, Ramsey kept coming up in the process of evaluating Rochell.
Now, I’m not saying this works every time or with every pick, and perhaps I’m overthinking the methodology here (though I don’t think I am). These guys could be great players all on their own. But specifically with these mid-to-later round guys, the Rams HAVE to make it less of
the dart-throw that it usually is because, well, their ecosystem depends on it (and on winning, but that’s a whole other conversation). Have they found the formula to do that? We’ll see in 2-4 years. But to count on star players as assets in draft process is fascinating.
When it came to the Jacob Harris interviews, was interesting to feel how outdated some of my own reporting for previous pieces already was – or at least, that there is a much better way to specify the language of certain facets of the evaluation process.
“The Rams don’t care about the 40” is a sexy tagline but in both Rochell and Harris’ evaluation, of course it was a relevant metric. They haven’t thrown it out as a piece of the evaluation – but they have re-assessed its value as a variable in cooperation w/other variables, and
that is an important differentiation. Ex.: Temme pulls speed WITH weight and six separately-gathered times. GPS data is the more relevant “speed” measurable in most cases. Bailey, in compiling Harris’ report, of course found the 40-times relevant – but as a pairing WITH other
variables such as explosiveness metrics. And certainly that’s not unique to the Rams, but in the larger scope of their team-building strategy especially with later-day picks, I think it’s fascinating. Thanks for indulging me – another reminder that there’s always stuff to learn.
(I’ll add – I picked just these three guys for a reason, in part because holy sh*t there is so much more to it than this, so many things can screw it all up and luxury picks/bad picks do happen all the time. but specifically, this was the study. thanks for coming to my ted talk.)
June 14, 2021 at 11:13 pm #130477InvaderRamModeratorthere’s lots of things to like about this draft.
and i can honestly say that these three fellas were my favorites. i like earnest brown and funk too. but those three really got me dreaming.
June 14, 2021 at 11:32 pm #130478AgamemnonParticipantJune 15, 2021 at 1:04 am #130480znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/14/rams-draft-ben-skowronek-trent-green-uncle/
Ben Skowronek[‘s] uncle is former Rams quarterback Trent Green, and someone Skowronek has looked up to throughout his life. In a recent interview with team reporter Sarina Morales, Skowronek discussed his relationship with Green and how the ex-NFL quarterback helped him become obsessed with football.
“Throughout this process, just talking to him, he’s given me advice since I was a kid and all that, so I’ve looked up to him,” he said. “I remember going to Rams games as a kid and after I got drafted, my family put up a picture from one of the games we went to and I was like, ‘Wow, that kid really grew up to be drafted by the Rams.’ So it was kind of surreal and full circle. He’s been great for me, just being able to bounce stuff off him. I think he’s the reason I fell in love with the game of football. Being able to go to these NFL games, going on the field after the games, talking to the players. I remember when he was with the Chiefs, after a game, I was just sitting on the curb talking to Dante Hall. It’s crazy stuff. Or Tony Gonzalez. Because of him, I really just became obsessed with the game of football.”
June 15, 2021 at 8:54 am #130483znModeratormerlin
They drafted 4 of the biggest freaks in the class
Tutu, Harris, Rochell, and B Brown were all workout freaks tbh. There was a clear desire to bring in speed.
But they can also play. This is no Jeff Fisher focus on athleticism. Tutu plays big and can run routes unlike Tavon when we took him. Harris is a freak of a gunner and also represents a non-diva elite receiving talent. Rochell has been roasted it seems so far but that’s ok he’s a seriously gifted DB who is in a good coaching pipeline now. And B Brown is a 20 year old powerhouse who can really move for his size and will help vs the zone run games as well as team tackling and getting to the ball.
We know that statistically not all these guys are gonna work out. But it’s still exciting to see a group that might be special if they all work hard and succeed.
June 15, 2021 at 12:28 pm #130487znModeratorThat Aaron Donald slipped to 13 in the draft when everybody knew he was awesome just cos he's 'only' 285lbs is one of the great failings of scouting over the last x-years.
Like when someone asked 'IF Russell Wilson was 6'2, what's his downside?' and nobody had anything. https://t.co/tBNZaegVkg
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) June 15, 2021
June 15, 2021 at 12:31 pm #130489znModeratorJacob Harris: Playing inline tight end is 'a whole different world' https://t.co/wYOBRnzFpC via @theramswire
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) June 15, 2021
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link above.
Harris admitted playing inline tight end is a different animal than lining up outside as a receiver.
“It’s going good. I’m learning a lot. A lot of football – more football than I could’ve imagined I could learn,” Harris said. “So it’s pretty cool being in that room, getting comfortable in a three-point stance and whatnot. Being comfortable next to the O-line in that world. It’s a whole different world in there, but I’m taking it day by day and I’m learning a lot and I feel like I’m picking it up pretty quickly.”
June 15, 2021 at 2:01 pm #130491znModerator.@CooperKupp has been a playmaker since he came into the league.
Happy birthday to the @RamsNFL WR. 🎉 pic.twitter.com/nUBtWPYjqT
— NFL (@NFL) June 15, 2021
June 15, 2021 at 4:57 pm #130494znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue selected as PFWA 2021 Terez A. Paylor Emerging Writer Award winner https://t.co/byHy7dMFnd
— Pro Football Writers (@PFWAwriters) June 15, 2021
June 17, 2021 at 6:21 am #130506znModeratorSean McVay will have plenty of options on offense when it comes to his receivers, tight ends and running backs. https://t.co/oDZuKgts0t
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 17, 2021
June 17, 2021 at 7:20 am #130507znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/16/rams-darious-williams-best-cornerbacks-nfl-rankings/
Mark Schofield of Touchdown Wire knows all about [Darious] Williams and ranked him among the NFL’s best outside cornerbacks. He put Williams 10th, nine spots behind the top-ranked Ramsey.
We turn now to the start of our second tandem of cornerbacks, with Darious Williams of the Los Angeles Rams. In his third season in the league Williams took a huge step forward in 2020, playing over 900 snaps and locking down one of the cornerback spots for Brandon Staley’s defense. He was impressive in coverage, allowing a completion of just 48.7% when targeted, and an opposing passer rating of a mere 55.4 when quarterbacks threw in his direction. His 11 pass breakups were a career-high mark.
June 17, 2021 at 2:54 pm #130514znModeratorSebastian Joseph-Day is coming off two productive seasons and last year he really seemed to step up to become a mainstay in the interior. With the loss of veteran Michael Brockers, I expect SJD will take his play and leadership to the next level. Excited to see the big man work pic.twitter.com/clel1JqmTs
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) June 17, 2021
June 17, 2021 at 3:14 pm #130515znModeratorSources: Two teams have crossed the much-talked about 85% threshold for player vaccinations (fully vaccinated or in the process). Those two are the Dolphins and Saints.
Nothing's agreed upon yet, but NFL and NFLPA have discussed relaxed protocols for teams over that threshold.
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) June 17, 2021
June 17, 2021 at 5:08 pm #130516znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/06/17/rams-desean-jackson-offense-mind-boggling-scary/
On NFL Network recently, [DeSean Jackson] said it’s going to be mind-boggling for defenses trying to slow down Los Angeles’ offense.
“Really just having the playmaker skill ability with the other wide receivers, the other running backs, tight ends. With a quarterback like Matthew Stafford, it’s really mind-boggling for other defenses or defensive coordinators to be sitting back, like, ‘Man, how we going to stop these dudes?’ For me, I’ve been on some pretty good receiving corps, but Robert and Coop, in addition to Van and Tutu, it’s going to be scary,” he said on “NFL Total Access.”
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“For me, I just look at it as being in a position where I have an offensive-minded coach like Sean McVay who’s in-tune and who knows how to put his players in position to win, first-off is the biggest concern for a veteran receiver like myself,” Jackson said. “And just having that fit and being able to gel together and being in a similar offense, a similar system where I know a lot that what we did in Washington is switched up a little bit but the terminology is pretty much the same.”
June 17, 2021 at 8:05 pm #130517InvaderRamModeratorBecause Donald is on the roster, Brown won’t ultimately be asked to play outside of those maximized traits, which could hinder or even ruin long-term development.
i hope not. because i think brown’s ceiling is way above that. i understand with a guy like sjd. but brown’s potential is so high.
June 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm #130518InvaderRamModerator“Really just having the playmaker skill ability with the other wide receivers, the other running backs, tight ends. With a quarterback like Matthew Stafford, it’s really mind-boggling for other defenses or defensive coordinators to be sitting back, like, ‘Man, how we going to stop these dudes?’ For me, I’ve been on some pretty good receiving corps, but Robert and Coop, in addition to Van and Tutu, it’s going to be scary,” he said on “NFL Total Access.”
i just hope the oline is solid. i think it should be.
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