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January 24, 2023 at 9:17 pm #142739znModerator
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Jourdan Rodrigue
1. Any clarity on coaching searches? 2. Why the sudden regression of players like Fuller, Rochell, etc. and is this why the let go of Coach Cooley? 3. Rams’ biggest needs? 4. New unis and helmet shell in 2923?
JR: 1. Yes, and no. With Mike LaFleur the front-runner for offensive coordinator, the next priority is offensive line coach, and that process is ongoing. Meanwhile, other offensive coaches (tight ends, running backs and assistant head coach Thomas Brown and quarterbacks coach/pass game coordinator Zac Robinson) are interviewing externally in a few places and the Rams are waiting for news about defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, whose interview in Indianapolis went well. So, though some spots can be filled, others are in a “wait and see” situation.
2. Safety Jordan Fuller didn’t regress — he suffered setbacks after a nasty leg injury that ended his 2021 season (and surgery). I expect him to be a full go in 2023. I don’t know that cornerback Robert Rochell regressed so much as didn’t take the next step forward in his development, but the Rams will need to see more from him.
3. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. A full evaluation of keepers and depth on the offensive line (then go from there). A step forward from some younger cornerbacks and safeties. Maybe a short-yardage running back. Health.
4. In 2923? I honestly haven’t thought that far ahead.
Your thoughts on why McVay has gotten away from PA with Stafford, when his career has excelled at just that? From at least 2017 he has been near the top of the league and in DET nonetheless, where they had one of the worst run games seemingly every year.
JR:For statistical context, just 241 of quarterback Matthew Stafford’s 904 pass plays over the past two seasons were out of play-action concepts (either under center or shotgun, per TruMedia). Before Stafford and under McVay, the Rams ranked in the top five of play-action usage year over year from 2017 through 2020.
At the beginning of 2021, the Rams’ revamped passing attack blew the doors off the rest of the league through the first half of the season, as they enjoyed league-leading production in explosive passing plays and offensive production (EPA and otherwise). They did it with the near-lowest amount of play action in the NFL, and still trounced the passing stats of those using play action at the highest volume. But when Stafford’s elbow issue flared up around November of that season and the Rams were without an actual lead running back, they lost their footing and had to overhaul their entire run game midseason to get back on track.
I think there has been transparent conversation among top Rams staff and players about the importance of being able to use a variety of tools in a quarterback’s tool belt, even though that quarterback can make every throw and perhaps prefers the shotgun, empty and dropback game. McVay can be an impatient play caller, and Stafford can be an impatient quarterback. Just because Stafford can make every throw doesn’t mean dropping back is always the most efficient or highest-probability option.
Will the Rams pursue OBJ this offseason?
JR: Depending on Odell Beckham Jr.’s health and readiness to play, yes, I believe the Rams will be right back in the mix with him (especially with McVay’s sticking around). They won’t get too risky on the salary, though.
You have mentioned that Jalen Ramsey’s untouched contract could make him a movement possibility. Can you elaborate on what that means? Also, if Alaric Jackson takes the starting LT position is there trade potential in Noteboom? Maybe too risky considering the injury recency bias?
JR: When referring to star cornerback Jalen Ramsey’s contract being “untouched,” I mean teams that can maneuver and manipulate a “clean,” albeit inherited, contract themselves will automatically see that as a reason to inquire about the player, especially one of Ramsey’s status and ability. Which … could be why the Rams haven’t touched the contract yet and other core players were restructured or extended (not necessarily because they wouldn’t want to in the big picture).
I think the Rams’ best internal option at left tackle is Alaric Jackson. I also don’t think there will be a trade market for Joe Noteboom because he is coming off an Achilles repair surgery. That may mean the Rams will play him at guard because the nature of his deal makes him hard to move. Noteboom has potential — he injured his knee against Buffalo in Week 1 and played through it for the next few weeks.
Curious why we’ve never had a deep dive into the Rams OL woes. They didn’t invest wisely, devalued the OL and paid the price in 2022.
JR: Well, first of all, the entire 2022 season could aptly be named: “Look! Here are all the woes of the Rams offensive line!”
Second, the argument can be made that they extended the wrong players in Noteboom and Brian Allen, based on availability and injury history. But nobody could have predicted the compounded number of injuries within the group and in such rapid succession. Further, two players who can be long-term impact players include former undrafted free agents Jackson and Coleman Shelton (who played well in their snaps compared with the rest of the NFL’s starters). We don’t know what third-round pick Logan Bruss is capable of yet, though he projects positively and his rehab has gone well. They’ll continue to add/subtract/adjust here.
Will McVay delegate play calling in 2023?
JR: No. But when he talks about “delegation,” I don’t know that play calling is necessarily what he means. It’s more about design, idea sharing and problem solving. However, he’s been pretty reflective about what works and what habits (good or bad) he gets into as a play caller. This season will be telling of some of the personal and professional reverse-engineering he’s doing during these months.
We finally have a high pick and a clear need to bring in an edge rusher to complement AD. Is this the year we invest in the D-line in the draft or is that either used in a trade for a proven player or spent on offense again as is usually the case in the McVay era?
JR: Both. The Rams will be aggressive in exploring their options at pass rusher, inclusive of the draft and combinations of veterans and younger prolific talent either available via free agency or acquired via trade.
Could you realistically see Baker Mayfield being back with the Rams next season? And if he is, do you believe the Rams still draft a QB? I remember you mentioning you think this is the draft they take a QB.
JR: Baker Mayfield wants to be a starter, so really, it would be up to him and how his market shakes out. Backup quarterback is not a position the Rams will spend significant cap space on (though they all but shouted from the rooftops they need to upgrade their depth here), but yes, they could draft and develop a middle- or late-round quarterback.
What is the safety position going to look like next season?
JR:My best guess: Starters Fuller, Nick Scott (depending on his free-agency market). Starter Quentin Lake. Rotational safety/nickel/dime player Russ Yeast.
Over the Cap places Scott’s future contract valuation at about $3.3 million per year.
What’s the likelihood the Rams actually end up using their 2024 first-round pick wherever it ends up slotted?
JR: Ha!
Any idea what their plan is for Senior Bowl/Combine? I know they haven’t had scouts there the past few years. Plan to stick with that?
JR: Great question, and to provide a little bit of clarity on this point: The Rams don’t “prevent” their staff from going to the NFL Scouting Combine, Senior Bowl, or Shrine Bowl. Anybody who feels like they work better attending the events in-person versus receiving all of the film and data and meeting with players remotely can attend, and scouts especially do a lot of regional combines and even pro days. The scouts are also all on the road/in their areas doing deep work on prospects throughout the year. Higher-ranking executives and coaches (including Les Snead and McVay) prefer not to attend in person. For example, the Rams’ top coaches didn’t attend last year’s combine but several assistant coaches did, and of course, the most important part of the combine is the medical evaluation so the whole athletic training staff attends.
January 24, 2023 at 9:31 pm #142742znModeratorKicker has some fight!
Matt Gay is off to the best start to his career than any Rams kicker has ever had.
Gay needs to be a priority during free agency! During his Rams career he has made 86 of 94 kicks (including playoffs) and has proven to be a real weapon from 50+ pic.twitter.com/VkCQYtdr2t
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) January 24, 2023
January 25, 2023 at 10:03 pm #142750ZooeyModeratorThe replies, though…
Lions get: Bobby Wagner, Jalen Ramsey and a 5th round pick
Rams get: Pick 18
Who says no 👀
— Adam Stark (@EverydayFFB) January 25, 2023
January 26, 2023 at 5:20 pm #142759znModeratorThanks Appreciate it!! https://t.co/H6fx2x7Lvc
— Jack Youngblood (@theblood85) January 26, 2023
January 26, 2023 at 5:22 pm #142760znModeratorCompetition Committee is expected to look at mechanics of tackle that injured Tony Pollard. https://t.co/mcvy7UQM8e
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 26, 2023
January 27, 2023 at 3:18 pm #142751JackPMillerParticipantLions get: Bobby Wagner, Jalen Ramsey and a 5th round pick Rams get: Pick 18 Who says noRams not only will say no, but they laugh at it. They are not giving them up, for something that low. The Lions would have to give us back the 6th pick, along with the 18th pick, this years 3rd round pick, and next years 1st round pick. and Aiden Huchinson, for the deal to work.
January 27, 2023 at 4:12 pm #142770ZooeyModeratorRams not only will say no, but they laugh at it. They are not giving them up, for something that low. The Lions would have to give us back the 6th pick, along with the 18th pick, this years 3rd round pick, and next years 1st round pick. and Aiden Huchinson, for the deal to work.
What’s funny is that Lions fans are reacting to that and saying they wouldn’t make that trade because Wagner and Ramsey are washed up.
January 27, 2023 at 5:00 pm #142771Billy_TParticipantRams not only will say no, but they laugh at it. They are not giving them up, for something that low. The Lions would have to give us back the 6th pick, along with the 18th pick, this years 3rd round pick, and next years 1st round pick. and Aiden Huchinson, for the deal to work.
What’s funny is that Lions fans are reacting to that and saying they wouldn’t make that trade because Wagner and Ramsey are washed up.
Wagner proved he’s still among the very best inside linebackers in the game. Top Three, easily. Ramsey also had a fine year, and I think he’s arguably Top Three as well. If I’m the Rams, I don’t make that trade, and that’s coming from someone who really, really wants the Rams to trade for high draft picks.
Wagner’s intangibles are off the charts. Leadership, football IQ, mentorship, etc. etc. Tough as nails. Yes, he’s going into his age 33 year, but he’s showing little in the way of decline. Ramsey, into his age 29 year, also seems to be going strong, and has evolved into a strong leader with the Rams. Both are serious “core” guys.
The person who might make the better trade for the Rams? It would have been unthinkable for me to say so even earlier this year, but it’s Donald. He’s entering his age 32 season, but that’s not the issue for me. No sign of slowing down. Every sign that he’s still in his peak window. It’s his likely retirement. If not this season, then next. While he’s basically Mr. Ram, the Rams have traded several Mr Rams in the past, like Gabriel, Dickerson, Bettis, or players close to that, like Hacksaw. And they let Deacon Jones slip away, which was unforgivable to me.
Anyway, I don’t think they’ll trade Donald, or Wagner, but I can see them moving Ramsey. Just don’t include Wagner or any other core guy, unless the other team backs up the truck and pours several first rounders on their heads.
January 27, 2023 at 5:09 pm #142772Billy_TParticipantAlso, the trick for me is timing:
I think next off-season for a Ramsey trade would be better for the Rams. However, that’s a bit risky, cuz his “market” might fall a ton between now and then. I’d still rather see the Rams get one more season from him, his intangibles, his cover ability, run support, etc.
(Maybe move him to safety, if they can strike gold with another corner)
Personally, I’d rather see them trade Stafford. But that may be impossible, due to his contract. I’ve forgotten its terms, but I’m guessing the cost would be prohibitive for the Rams and their potential trading partners. Not sure, but I think he’s basically untouchable cuz of the guarantees, etc. If it’s doable, though, he’s the player I’d move.
January 27, 2023 at 5:11 pm #142773ZooeyModeratorWagner proved he’s still among the very best inside linebackers in the game. Top Three, easily. Ramsey also had a fine year, and I think he’s arguably Top Three as well. If I’m the Rams, I don’t make that trade, and that’s coming from someone who really, really wants the Rams to trade for high draft picks. Wagner’s intangibles are off the charts. Leadership, football IQ, mentorship, etc. etc. Tough as nails. Yes, he’s going into his age 33 year, but he’s showing little in the way of decline. Ramsey, into his age 29 year, also seems to be going strong, and has evolved into a strong leader with the Rams. Both are serious “core” guys. The person who might make the better trade for the Rams? It would have been unthinkable for me to say so even earlier this year, but it’s Donald. He’s entering his age 32 season, but that’s not the issue for me. No sign of slowing down. Every sign that he’s still in his peak window. It’s his likely retirement. If not this season, then next. While he’s basically Mr. Ram, the Rams have traded several Mr Rams in the past, like Gabriel, Dickerson, Bettis, or players close to that, like Hacksaw. And they let Deacon Jones slip away, which was unforgivable to me. Anyway, I don’t think they’ll trade Donald, or Wagner, but I can see them moving Ramsey. Just don’t include Wagner or any other core guy, unless the other team backs up the truck and pours several first rounders on their heads.
At the start of the season, NFL executives, coaches, and players voted Wagner as the #8 LB in the entire league, and he did nothing this year to tarnish his reputation.
PFF has Ramsey rated as the #1 CB.
Lions fans who think that their #18 overall pick is too much to give up for both of those guys AND a 5th round pick are simply homers who have no clue.
January 27, 2023 at 6:05 pm #142774Billy_TParticipantAt the start of the season, NFL executives, coaches, and players voted Wagner as the #8 LB in the entire league, and he did nothing this year to tarnish his reputation. PFF has Ramsey rated as the #1 CB. Lions fans who think that their #18 overall pick is too much to give up for both of those guys AND a 5th round pick are simply homers who have no clue.
Agreed. That’s #8 among linebackers, period, right? Not just ILBs?
I can see Ramsey being the best corner too.
Slight tangent. The Rams desperately need a corner to pair with Ramsey, but they also need upgrades at safety. IMO, they need to re-sign Scott, a very good athlete and a player on the rise. Rapp, not so much. Poor in coverage, but solid against the run.
They could move Ramsey to safety, pair him with Scott, and the Rams solve their safety issue, but create another hole at corner. If they can grab a safety in FA, like Jesse Bates (just 26 for next season), they can fix that position and keep Ramsey where he is. Or, they could sign a Jamel Dean, a 4.3 guy with great size (6’1″, 205), 27 for next season.
They should still draft a coupla DBs, regardless of their luck in Free Agency. I’m hoping they go for speed and serious athleticism this year, across the board.
January 28, 2023 at 3:56 pm #142793znModeratorAccording to PFF it’s Bobby Wagner pic.twitter.com/nstRnbqz3p
— Marxavier (@marxavier_) January 28, 2023
January 28, 2023 at 5:30 pm #142802znModeratorThis was meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but I’ll be damned it was fun when it happened! pic.twitter.com/EiccOarke5
— MyLASports (@My_LASports) January 27, 2023
January 29, 2023 at 11:14 am #142804znModeratorBull rush by @AaronDonald97. Striking with violent hat/hands. Uses his leverage, strength & leg drive to get to the QB. Keep it simple, keep it violent! #passrush pic.twitter.com/a4SCXmRO2X
— DLineVids (@dlinevids1) January 28, 2023
January 29, 2023 at 3:06 pm #142805znModerator“The Los Angeles Rams are signing DB’s Taylor Rapp and David Long to future deals per source”
Me: pic.twitter.com/2bcKt43410
— Cesar 🥱 (@ClappedCesar) January 29, 2023
January 29, 2023 at 3:13 pm #142807znModeratorSean McVay has called the plays since he landed with the Rams, but is it time for a change? https://t.co/U3TUE7DXG2
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) January 29, 2023
January 31, 2023 at 7:24 pm #142827Eternal RamnationParticipantProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalkCompetition Committee is expected to look at mechanics of tackle that injured Tony Pollard.Should go back a lot further than that. Remember they started tackling
Gurley the same way in the Monday night Chiefs game and Gurley was never the
same again.
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