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  • #162539
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    Rodrigue: “Great for the Rams because they can’t draft corners”

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    #162540
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    I must say, the Rosenthal-Rodrigue-Claybon-Wolfe vid is fun as it meanders along. References to Chekov, the Gutenberg Bible, the apocalyptic novel ‘The Bear’ (in which the Protagonist is eaten. Claybon asks if this is a ‘metaphor for colonialism’) and author George Saunders.

    Go Rams

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    Greg Cosell

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    This photo was taken on the same day that Deebo Samuel didn’t get a ring.

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    A common point that emerges in all of these blabbering videos is that the Chiefs got quite a “haul” in draft picks which just makes me wonder about Snead’s negotiating ability. There have been a number of trades over the years where I have questioned how much the Rams gave up, or how little they received in player/picks swaps. Someone in one of those videos mentioned that they had a conversation where people had speculated that the Chiefs would trade McDuffie and a pick in exchange for a 1st. They ended up sending McDuffie and nothing in exchange for a 1st and then some.

    And I think it was Chris Sims who said that the Chiefs are $8 million OVER the cap RIGHT NOW. There is no way in the world they were going to keep McDuffie after this coming season, and so they HAD to trade him. Now.

    Of course, not all 1st round picks are the same. The Rams gave the 29th pick to the Chiefs. That’s not the same as the 13th pick. But I gotta think that nobody inside the Top 20 would part with that pick for a guy in his contract year when there are a lot of good CBs in this draft. So who else is going to make this trade?

    I don’t know. I don’t think the Rams overpaid, particularly. Especially since I am not familiar with McDuffie. Not sure I even heard of him, let alone formed an opinion based on watching him play. A 5th and a 6th are not great picks (although the Rams get important contributions there pretty often), and next year’s 3rd is going to be an inch or two from being a 4th anyway. So I’m not arguing that the Rams overpaid. And if McDuffie neutralizes the opposition’s #1 WR more often than not over the next 5 years, then the trade could go on the Top Shelf of Rams trades.

    I just wonder if the Chiefs would have taken less.

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    Trent McDuffie didn’t allow more than 53 yards receiving in a single game last year, per
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    Has never allowed a 100-yard receiver in his career.

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    link to podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rams-trade-for-chiefs-all-pro-cb-trent-mcduffie-inside/id1475134698?i=1000753351088

    In this episode of Bleav in Rams presented by FanDuel – we unpack LA’s statement move of the offseason, trading for All-Pro corner Trent McDuffie. Erin Coscarelli is joined by Nate Atkins of The Athletic and Ryan Anderson of LAFB Network, we discuss how this deal came together, why Les Snead’s “if it’s inevitable, make it immediate” mindset is alive and well, and what it signals about this team’s urgency with Matthew Stafford still playing at an MVP level. Is this F-them Picks reborn? Or something more calculated… deploy them picks? We unpack the cap implications, the schematic fit next to Quentin Lake, and why this feels eerily similar to the 2021 all-in run.

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    I just wonder if the Chiefs would have taken less.

    i do know that the giants were interested. i don’t know what they offered.

    my one worry. he’s supposedly elite at the slot but only good outside, and he’s going to have to play on the outside with the rams.

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    my one worry. he’s supposedly elite at the slot but only good outside, and he’s going to have to play on the outside with the rams.

    But he didn’t have the Rams pass rush in KC.

    Plus they will field at least a couple of guys who can play slot, which means they can disguise assignments because the offense doesn’t know until the snap who goes where.

    Anyway. “Good on the outside” is better than what they had at the end of the season.

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    my one worry. he’s supposedly elite at the slot but only good outside, and he’s going to have to play on the outside with the rams.

    I think they will move him around, inside, outside. I mean, why not.

    Hybrids and flexible players seem to be more important than ever.

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    InvaderRam wrote:
    my one worry. he’s supposedly elite at the slot but only good outside, and he’s going to have to play on the outside with the rams.

    But he didn’t have the Rams pass rush in KC.

    Plus they will field at least a couple of guys who can play slot, which means they can disguise assignments because the offense doesn’t know until the snap who goes where.

    Anyway. “Good on the outside” is better than what they had at the end of the season.

    That is both my worry AND my response to my worry.

    Even if he’s not as good on the outside as he is inside, he’s still better than Durant or Forbes, never mind Williams and Witherspoon at this point. He may not be Jalen Ramsey, but he’s a significant upgrade, looks like, and his presence will make Durant/Forbes/Curl/Lake/rookie better. It seems like the book is still out on McCreary and Kendrick. I hear good things about McCreary. Kendrick would appear to be on the bubble to me.

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    Kendrick would appear to be on the bubble to me.

    Yeah. Kendrick is a Ram now because Seattle cut him. He was a Seahawk in the first place because the Rams waived him before the season.

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