Pick #6: Rams select David Edwards OT Wisconsin

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  • #100519
    JackPMiller
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    He is our 5th round pick

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    #100522
    JackPMiller
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    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/david-edwards?id=32194544-5733-7483-3a0b-c9cc2e7a9e47

    David Edwards

    Prospect Info
    College

    Wisconsin
    Hometown
    Downers Grove, IL
    Class
    r-Junior
    Height
    6′ 6″
    Weight
    308 lbs
    Arms
    33 3/8”
    Hands
    9 3/4”

    NFL Comparison
    Roderick Johnson

    Player Bio

    Edwards was a high school quarterback that operated the veer offense for three years at Downers Grove North, a western Chicago suburb. He grew into a spot on the Badgers’ offensive line as a redshirt freshman in 2016, starting seven of 13 games at right tackle. Big Ten coaches voted Edwards a second-team all-conference performer while national media voted him to the Associated Press third-team All-American squad in 2017. Edwards started all 14 games as a sophomore, blocking for stud freshman running back Jonathan Taylor. Before the 2018 season began, however, Edwards hurt his shoulder. Instead of shutting it down for the year, he played through the injury for 10 starts at his right tackle spot before deciding to rest the shoulder so he could be at 100 percent for the pre-draft process. Edwards was a second-team All-Big Ten selection despite missing those contests. His father, David, played football at Indiana while his cousin (Garrett) and great uncle (Ron Leoni) played at Illinois.

    Overview

    Quarterback-turned-tight-end-turned-right-tackle who has maintained his light feet but is missing functional strength and body control to hold his ground against NFL power. Edwards isn’t the technician we’ve come to expect from the Wisconsin program and he’ll need additional technique work to help make up for some of his physical deficiencies. He’s still a pup as an offensive lineman and he should improve with more experience and weight room work, but it’s tough to project him behind average backup to low-end starter at this point.

    Strengths

    Former option quarterback and high school basketball player with good feet
    Early quickness in pass sets
    Gets long arms unfurled and extended into opposition
    Mirror movement needs work, but is fairly natural and fluid
    Has potential to stick and slide after engagement
    Adequate hip roll into contact as base blocker
    Initial quickness to cross-face on backside zone blocks
    Experienced in multiple run-blocking schemes
    Recognizes best angles up to second level
    Agility to alter body positioning in space

    Weaknesses

    Initial slides are quick but might not gain enough ground
    Outside hand gets erased opening path to his quarterback
    Too many over-sets open inside counters
    Punch-pull technique gets the best of him
    Lacks sand to drop and anchor against bull rush
    Play features inconsistent hand placement
    Chronic waist-bender who falls off drive blocks
    Upper and lower body work independently
    Below-average leg drive to generate movement
    Feet deaden and he fails to improve base-block positioning
    Defaults to maul mode over technique in recovery

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    #100527
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    Pro Football Focus@PFF

    New Rams OT David Edwards had the draft class’ 8th-highest run-blocking grade among the top OT prospects. #NFLDraft

    #100528
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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    New #Rams OT David Edwards battled through a shoulder injury last year – he’s fine now – but he felt playing through it affected the tape he put out there which he feels likely affected his draft status. Ultimately he’s glad he stuck it out with his Wisconsin teammates

    #100529
    JackPMiller
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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    New #Rams OT David Edwards battled through a shoulder injury last year – he’s fine now – but he felt playing through it affected the tape he put out there which he feels likely affected his draft status. Ultimately he’s glad he stuck it out with his Wisconsin teammates

    If he is a 100%, this dude can play, and should be on the field. If possible, RG is a strong possibility. Kromer can coach him up.

    #100530
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    If he is a 100%, this dude can play, and should be on the field. If possible, RG is a strong possibility. Kromer can coach him up.

    Thanks for the endorsement. But I think he’s a tackle. I think Evans will be a guard/swing tackle, and the taller, more naturally nimble Edwards will be the OT. LOT, in fact.

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    #100536
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    https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/david-edwards

    DAVID EDWARDS
    OT, Wisconsin

    Pass Sets – Pass sets appear awkward, doesn’t generate a lot of force in his drive catch and as a result can be tested with speed. More effective in short sets to jump out of his stance and square up but he’s prone to stopping his feet and being forced to pivot and chase quickly.

    Length/Extension – Natural length is terrific, has been used as a last resort to ride out many rushers who successfully challenge his outside hip. Strength at full extension is terrific, not going to let space allow him to play soft or without ability to wash out a rusher.

    Balance – Can be a tad late to break down and square up a blocker but overall his body control for his size is terrific. Very good working off of lateral contact and chipping defenders at the POA before climbing and looking to pick off scraping LBs.

    Hand Technique – Hand clamp is powerful and generates a lot of torque when he’s looking to pull or yank defenders out of a gap. Hand placement can be wide (or wild) and his initial stab on the outside as a pass protector is too often late.

    Power at POA – When he’s able to roll forward out of his stance, he can provide devastating amounts of pop and power. Violent thanks to explosive first step and force generated in short space, will be reliable to run behind, even on short yardage down and distances.

    Football IQ – Understanding of how to navigate the POA is effective, as is his pursuit skills on the second level. Technical development is paramount and while admirable development in just 4 seasons he has notable holes in his pass blocking.

    Functional Athleticism – Graceful big body, most notable in instances climbing the ladder to block on the second level or when working into the boundary as a lead blocker on outside concepts. Shows a lot of lateral range on outside run concepts from the back side.

    Anchor Ability – Strong as a bull. Effective to bow his back and dig his feet into the ground, but lapses in hand strikes do open the door for him to get walked back by rushers who can convert speed to power and are willing to bump bellies with him.

    Flexibility – Has shown plenty of mobility throughout his torso and waist but functional application is hit or miss, can struggle to get outside foot back in pass sets vs. speed and needs more bend and sink to keep his hips down and prevent folding to chase blocks.

    Competitive Toughness – Love his play demeanor, is a bully and plays chippy when he’s let off the leash and able to play forward. His functional play strength is effective and provided he’s aligned with hips and pads he’s not going to be bested when locking horns with all but the most explosive DL.

    BEST TRAIT – Functional Athleticism

    WORST TRAIT – Pass Sets

    #100540
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    Ourlads

    Junior entry and three year starter at RT. From Downers Grove, IL. Two year All-Big 10 second-team honours. Former high school QB who entered Wisconsin as a TE. A long torso tackle with good feet and base. Plays in both a two and three point stance. Excels in pass protection. Has the feet to kick step quickly or shuffle. Plays with a strong two-arm extension. Good initial arm push, balance, and use of hands. Alert on blitz pick up. Has physical tools as well as technique. Controlled aggression. Plays with attitude and effort. Has been known to get a few holding calls to protect his QB. Physical on double team blocks. Will overextend at times. Can be put on skates if loses his knee bend. Has functional strength but needs more upper body strength just putting up 16 reps at his pro day. Quick to cut off the inside path of a pass rusher. Powerful on down blocks. Smooth and patient on twists and “x” stunts. Rarely gives up pressure to put a QB in harm. Effective sealing linebackers at the second level. (second/third round).

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    #100541
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    Ric Serritella Draft Bible

    6. DAVID EDWARDS | WISCONSIN | #79 | rJR | 03.20.97 (age 22.0) | Downers Grove, IL | 6062 | 308 | 2nd RD | 8.4 | Athletes First

    OUTLOOK: After he received a very favorable grade from the NFL Draft Advisory Board following his sophomore campaign, Edwards decided to return for one more season in hopes of polishing up his overall game. A high school quarterback, Edwards came to Madison as a tight end before making the switch to right tackle, where he has started for the past three seasons, protecting the blindside for his starting quarterback Alex Hornibrook, who is left-handed. Edwards owns the hard-nosed, gritty Wisconsin pedigree that usually translates well to the NFL. He played through injury during his final season, which obviously hindered him but his strong film from a healthy sophomore campaign, probably solidifies him as a top 50 overall selection.

    PROS: Edwards possesses an excellent blend of size, length, power and agility. He is an exceptional run blocker, showing great strength and the ability to sustain his blocks. Has top-tier athleticism for a player at his height and shows off the nastiness as well as toughness required of offensive linemen at the next level. He did a great job of filling out his frame at Wisconsin, bulking up 75 pounds, while maintaining his athleticism and demonstrating sound technique, along with an aggressive style of play, despite having never played offensive line prior to arriving to Madison. However, he has received plenty of reps over the past three seasons, starting 31 of 37 games played.

    CONS: Suffered a left shoulder injury during fall camp that he played through during his redshirt junior season. He sat out the final three games of the season to rest the shoulder and allow himself to regain strength in his arm for draft preparation. Edwards does a nice job getting into the second level but will fail to deliver an impact hit on the defender once he arrives to his spot. Can play too tall at times and needs to continue to hone his skills versus pass-rush moves. Needs to fill out his frame, has only played the position a few years in college. He can struggle to chop block and his pass sets are still very much a work in progress, understanding when to open up and how much is where he needs to improve in pass protection.

    COMPARISON: Anthony Costanzo, Indianapolis Colts – With excellent size and sound footwork, scouts were split on what side Castonzo projected at the next level, similar to Edwards who seems more than capable of playing either left or right.

    #100547
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    Edwards … seems more than capable of playing either left or right.

    It would seem so.

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    #100596
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    from https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2019/4/25/18342882/nfl-draft-2019-david-edwards-scouting-report-wisconsin-football

    Strengths: Edwards is a long, athletic kid. Unpleasant disposition in the run game. Really light on his feet for an offensive linemen. Has big-time potential as a pass protector. Understands and hit his set points and landmarks. Has elite potential as a reach blocker on outside zone concepts. Hand placement in the run game is above average.

    Weaknesses: Is still raw at the position, has only played offensive tackle for three seasons; still learning. Hands need work in pass pro. Can panic when threatened with a speed rush. Also needs to continue to get stronger in an NFL weight room. Anchor has room for growth, will always struggle with pass rushers with good leverage. Needs to prove he is back from the shoulder injury in 2018.

    Summary: Edwards draft stock took a hit after 2017, which proved to be an example of having more tape can give teams more film of your warts in your game. His injury also didn’t help, but Edwards should still be a second day pick in a league desperate for tackle help. He has the potential to be one of the best linemen in this class, and could be an above-average starter in the NFL.

    #100620
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    Thanks for the endorsement. But I think he’s a tackle. I think Evans will be a guard/swing tackle, and the taller Edwards (basketball player, long arms) will be the OT.

    i’m not so sure about that. evans has length edwards does not.

    they’re both pretty limited athletically, so if either make tackle, it’s more likely to be at right.

    #100640
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    Rams expect David Edwards to play 4 positions on offensive line

    Cameron DaSilva

    Rams expect David Edwards to play 4 positions on offensive line

    When the pick was announced that the Los Angeles Rams were taking Wisconsin offensive tackle David Edwards, there was some uncertainty about where he’ll play on the offensive line. After all, the Rams have two of the best tackles in the league in Andrew Whitworth and Rob Havenstein, and Edwards only played right tackle for the Badgers.

    Being a former tight end and high school quarterback, Edwards is a good athlete with solid movement skills for a man his size. He’s going to get a shot to play at positions besides right tackle, which offensive line coach Aaron Kromer made very clear on Saturday afternoon.

    “You always ask that and I always tell you the same thing,” Kromer joyfully told Myles Simmons, who asked where Edwards will play. “He’s going to play four spots. He’s going to play both tackles and both guards. It’s the fastest way to learn football and then we’ll find out where he fits best.”

    This is the typical approach for the Rams with Kromer coaching the offensive linemen. He loves to “cross-train” them, as Sean McVay says, trying them at multiple positions before settling at one spot. Rodger Saffold played several spots before Kromer arrived in 2017 and locked him in at left guard.

    Joseph Noteboom joined the Rams as a tackle, but he’s projected to be the team’s starting left guard in 2019. Austin Blythe made the switch from center to right guard and played at a high level last season.

    Edwards told reporters that he played left tackle in spring ball, but otherwise, he only played right tackle. He’d be open to moving inside, though, if the Rams felt it was best for him and the team.

    “Yeah, I think if I had the opportunity and the reps to play at guard and even at center, I would definitely welcome that,” he said. “Wherever they decide to play me and give me the opportunity is fine with me. I have no reservations on moving inside or playing at any other position.”

    Edwards can compete with Noteboom at left guard, Blythe at right guard and if he doesn’t become a starter in 2019, the Rams will give him the chance to either back up those guys at guard or succeed Whitworth in 2020 at left tackle.

    #100641
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    DeSilva: Edwards told reporters that he played left tackle in spring ball, but otherwise, he only played right tackle.

    This is a little deceptive. Wisconsin’s qb was a lefty so his “blind side” is the right not the left. That put Edwards on the qb’s blind side, which is the typical role of the pro left OT.

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    #101078
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    They say before playing with a hurt shoulder in 2018, Edwards ranked higher. Well I tested that. Here are some early player rankings from before the 2018 season. (They’re usually from July or August). There’s 2 kinds of lists–top 10 (or top 5) at their position, or top 100 players lists. On top 10 (or 5) at a position lists, he’s usually around 4 or 5. In top 100 players lists, he gets slotted anywhere from 25 to 50-something.

    2019 NFL Draft: Here’s a super-early look at the top 100 prospects
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-draft-heres-a-super-early-look-at-the-top-100-prospects/

    40. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin

    Top 10 Offensive Tackles
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774100-2019-nfl-draft-matt-millers-early-big-board#slide6

    5. David Edwards, Wisconsin
    6. Bobby Evans, Oklahoma

    Top 150 college football players to watch in 2018: Nos. 1-50
    By Chad Reuter
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931599/article/top-150-college-football-players-to-watch-in-2018-nos-150

    43. David Edwards – OT
    School: Wisconsin | Year: Junior (RS)

    Looking at Edwards now, it’s tough to picture him as the option quarterback he was in high school. He’s filled out his frame, and that’s paid major dividends, as he’s strong enough to handle bull rushes and still agile enough to reach linebackers to break open big runs for Jonathan Taylor and the rest of the Badgers’ running back crew.

    2019 NFL Draft prospect rankings — top 5 at every position
    BY PFF ANALYSIS TEAM • AUG 14, 2018
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-2019-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-top-5-at-every-position

    5. David Edwards, Wisconsin
    Strengths – Already incredibly patient in his pass sets, rarely overextending himself to land first punch.

    Room to improve in 2018 – Play strength is average at this point and isn’t much of a people mover.

    2019 NFL draft rankings
    https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2018/8/30/17794992/2019-nfl-mock-draft-players-rankings-nick-bosa-ed-oliver-justin-herbert-dexter-lawrence

    21. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
    Wisconsin has the most talented offensive line in college football, and its packed with NFL players. Edwards, Wisconsin’s right tackle, is the best draft eligible player of the bunch. Edwards is a powerful run blocker and loves to finish plays.

    2019 NFL Draft Prospects
    link: https://www.nfldraftgeek.com/100-days-of-2019-nfl-draft-prospects/

    53. David Edwards OT Wisconsin
    Today’s #100Days of #NFLDraft Prospects looks at Wisconsin’s David Edwards and why he is considered an elite tackle prospect #Badgers https://t.co/4id1sGBgOW

    PRESEASON 2019 NFL DRAFT BIG BOARD
    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/ledyards-preseason-2019-nfl-draft-big-board

    25. DAVID EDWARDS, OT, WISCONSIN
    Edwards shows excellent power, toughness and technique, but not offering the same range as a pass protector. His hand usage is so impressive for a recently-converted tight end that he may be able to survive most matchups without great traits.

    NFL Draft 2019: Early look at top five offensive linemen
    https://n.rivals.com/news/nfl-draft-2019-early-look-at-top-five-offensive-linemen

    4. DAVID EDWARDS, WISCONSIN

    Recruiting: Rated as a three-star athlete who was 6-foot-6 and 225 pounds in high school, Edwards committed to Wisconsin in the summer before his senior season. Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Syracuse and Vanderbilt had also offered but Edwards stuck with Wisconsin through the coaching change from Gary Andersen to Paul Chryst.

    Stats: The Badgers averaged 223 rushing yards per game, five yards per touch and Jonathan Taylor emerged as one of the best running backs in the country after rushing for 1,977 yards and 13 touchdowns in his freshman season.

    Farrell’s take: Talk about a tough evaluation, Edwards has gone from athlete (quarterback) to offensive lineman, so I’m happy with our mid three-star rating out of high school. He could have projected to a few positions and was a good athlete who we thought would end up as a tight end. He also played defensive end, but had a huge frame so he could have ended up as a defensive tackle down the line as well. He is the perfect example of an offensive lineman with the feet of a tight end.

    A Very Early Look at the Potential Top 10 Picks
    By ALBERT BREER July 11, 2018
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/07/11/2019-nfl-mock-draft-nick-bosa-greg-little-jarrett-stidham

    TEN MORE PLAYERS TO WATCH
    David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin: He may have been the best right tackle in America last year, and he considered declaring for the draft. The NFL’s had success with OLs from Madison.

    #101079
    Herzog
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    Holy cow…. I don’t want to get too excited…. but that is SOMETHING

    #101184
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