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March 5, 2017 at 1:01 am #65887znModerator
I'm told the Rams will not be in the mix for Alshon Jeffery. Not surprising, and it doesn't mean they won't spend on receivers (they will).
— Alden Gonzalez (@Alden_Gonzalez) March 2, 2017
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Wrote recently about why it probably doesn't make sense for the Rams to pursue Jeffery … https://t.co/DcgULBZS6k
— Alden Gonzalez (@Alden_Gonzalez) March 2, 2017
March 5, 2017 at 1:03 am #65888znModeratorRams ready to sort through bevy of receivers at combine
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-745690-one-receiver.htmlINDIANAPOLIS – The wide receivers finally made it to Lucas Oil Stadium on Saturday for their on-field workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine. All 58 of them, which is an extraordinary amount of prospects and typifies the heavy emphasis these days on throwing the ball.
Inside the stadium, the Rams scouting and coaching contingency watched intently, wide receiver being such a significant need and, based on how many of them the Rams requested formal interviews with and reach out to informally, this week a particular point of focus this week.
And not just here, either.
The opening of free agency on Monday is expected to offer a slew of interesting possibilities, and the Rams appear poised to be active as new head coach Sean McVay begins building the offense to his specifications.
“We’re confident that we know that market and who, in that market, fits Sean the most,” said Rams general manager Les Snead.
Depending on how aggressive they are next week – and there are strong indications they’ll at least kick the tires on a group that should include Washington’s DeSean Jackson, Cleveland’s Terrelle Pryor, Chicago’s Alshon Jeffery, Washington’s Pierre Garcon – the Rams’ receiver need might not be as compelling as it is right now.
Nevertheless, the Rams at their core are a draft and development organization, so ideally some long-range answers to a position that’s befuddled them for years were on the field Saturday.
Armed with the 37th overall pick in next month’s draft – and eight picks total across the second and seventh rounds – good chance one or two of them might be getting a call from McVay and Snead eventually.
Their draft position eliminates them from consideration for the top prospects – Clemson’s Mike Williams, Western Michigan’s Corey Davis and Washington’s Johnson Ross – but they’re well situated to tap into the next wave. And history shows impact receivers can be found beyond the first round.
With that in mind, here are some wide receivers who should be available when the Rams make their first pick.
JUJU SMITH SCHUSTER, USC, 6-2, 220, 2016 stats: 13 games, 70 catches, 914 yards, 10 TDs: There’s been a lot of talk at the combine that Smith-Schuster profiles as an Anquan Boldin type receiver, which makes a lot of sense. Like Boldin, Smith-Schuster isn’t a blazer, but he’s a big, physical, competitive receiver adept at route running and using his body to create an advantage in one-on-one battles. With the ball in his hands, he’s a punishing runner and isn’t afraid to use his size and strength as a weapon.
“Yeah, definitely. Anquan Boldin,” Smith-Schuster concurred. “His speed, at the same time the way he plays, the way he approaches the game, basically the overall how he plays his game and how tough he is. I kind of see myself the same way.”
COOPER KUPP, EASTERN WASHINGTON, 6-2, 205, 2016 Stats: 13 games 117 catches, 1,700 yards 17 TDs: Kupp disappointed a bit with his 4.62 and 4.66 40 times Saturday, but in a roundabout way that might actually help the Rams as it may eliminate Kupp from consideration as a first-round pick.
It shouldn’t, as Kupp’s productivity, natural hands, and ability to expertly slay every route on the route tree and operate against man or zone coverage makes him a first-round talent.
But in the finite world of stacking a draft board, Kupp might get docked for not delivering a sub 4.6 40.
Nevertheless, he’ll go off the board by the middle of the second round – at the latest – and he was one of the handful of receivers the Rams officially sat down with in Indiana.
“I believe in the receiver that I am, I believe in what I bring to a team,” Kupp said. “I think it’ something that no one else brings, the reliability, the versatility, someone who is going to be productive play in and play out.”
JOSH REYNOLDS, TEXAS A&M, 6-4, 194, 2016 Stats: 13 games, 61 catches 1,039 yards, 12 TDs: The Rams have a glaring need for big, reliable targets that can stretch the field, and Reynolds fits that bill. He isn’t the most physical receiver, and defensive backs will try to body him up to take advantage of his slender build. But he’s an explosive athlete that can gallop past defenders vertically – while possessing tremendous hand eye coordination and ball-catching skills – and can out-jump them on contested balls.
CHAD HANSEN, CAL, 6-2, 205, 2016 Stats: 10 games, 92 catches, 1,249 yards, 11 TDs: A former walk-on at Cal after spending one season at Idaho State, Hansen exploded onto the scene in 2016 with a monster year that transformed him from nobody to one of the most intriguing receivers in the draft. Watching him play, you’re instantly drawn to the explosive speed that allows him to burst past defenders, his ability to go up and get balls, but also work the sidelines with his footwork. He’ll get dinged for the elementary route running he was asked to do in Cal’s system, but he’s a willing learner and coachable, so he should seamlessly pick up the more nuanced NFL route tree.
“A lot of people think I’m a product of (Cal’s) offense but I don’t see it like that,” Hansen said. “I see myself as a complete receiver and someone that’s going to be able to translate to the NFL and be successful at that level.”
March 5, 2017 at 1:06 am #65890znModeratorhttp://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/la/los-angeles-rams
Alden Gonzalez
ESPN Staff WriterRams GM Les Snead recently set up a workout with Jared Goff and a couple of draft-eligible receivers, Washington’s John Ross, who just ran a record 4.22 40, and USC’s JuJu Smith-Schuster. Smith-Schuster on Friday, per ESPN’s Michael DiRocco: “I thought Jared Goff was an outstanding quarterback. Just did one-on-one; the way he approaches the game, and how we were just talking ‘ball and life off the field. My meeting with them (the Rams) was great.”
March 5, 2017 at 10:10 am #65900InvaderRamModeratorwould you trade the 2018 first round pick for brandin cooks???
i would. i wouldn’t even blink.
According to Katzenstein, the Saints want a pick in the middle of the first round, which is something the Patriots are lacking in this year’s draft. The Eagles and Titans, however, are slotted to pick 14th and 18th, respectively.
March 5, 2017 at 12:56 pm #65908sanbaggerParticipantHmmm…Kupp possibly dropping to 37? I would be very interested in him at that spot.
March 5, 2017 at 1:51 pm #65909JackPMillerParticipantThere are three WRs that I like, Artavious Scott of Clemson and Malachi Dupree and Travin Dorel of LSU. They are in this draft. After that, I’m not really sold on much. Juju Smith is too inconsistent in my book. Drops too many passes.
March 5, 2017 at 3:02 pm #65914InvaderRamModeratorHmmm…Kupp possibly dropping to 37? I would be very interested in him at that spot.
i do like kupp. he’s not fast, but he’s quick.
short shuttle – 4.08 (5th best among wideouts)
3-cone – 6.75 (9th best among wideouts)and then of course insane production.
March 5, 2017 at 4:30 pm #65916sanbaggerParticipantI’m stil an O-line guy but a Kupp would give me pause.
I guess it really comes down to FA and who they ink in the early stages will set up who and how they go about their business in the draft.
March 6, 2017 at 6:20 pm #65947znModeratorThis is my hope:
link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/free-agent-top-100-salary-ranges/
24. WR Pierre Garcon (30) — $8.5-10.5 million/year – Run-after-catch specialist has become one of the NFL’s best route runners. Great hands: Has dropped only 8-of-330 targets (2.4%) over the last three years.
March 6, 2017 at 6:51 pm #65949sanbaggerParticipantThis is my hope:
link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/free-agent-top-100-salary-ranges/
24. WR Pierre Garcon (30) — $8.5-10.5 million/year – Run-after-catch specialist has become one of the NFL’s best route runners. Great hands: Has dropped only 8-of-330 targets (2.4%) over the last three years.
The guy can play and 30 isn’t over the hill by any means…but….
He’s gonna want 3 years minimum, he knows this is his last shot at making the bigger type dollars…so I figure he’s gonna want 3 years 30 mil- 20 mil guaranteed.
The Rams already inked Tru to 17 mil, they can’t afford too many of the 10 mil guys…and I still think they want a top tier type on the O-line with a couple of the middle tier (5-7 mil) to supplement.
The receiving corps is young, not really bad…and they have guys coming off the IR which have hands. I think Woods is a perfect complement….he’s not a #1 but then neither is Garcon.
I would love to have Garcon on the team and maybe they can free up the space to get him and some of the guys I want by subtracting (Sneads words) some guys I wouldn’t mind getting axed….so, maybe we get the best of both worlds (I love Vanhalen).
Good to see you put down who you’re hoping for, and I really like the new Huddle pic…just noticed it today, not sure how long it’s been up.
March 6, 2017 at 6:57 pm #65950InvaderRamModeratorThis is my hope:
link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/free-agent-top-100-salary-ranges/
24. WR Pierre Garcon (30) — $8.5-10.5 million/year – Run-after-catch specialist has become one of the NFL’s best route runners. Great hands: Has dropped only 8-of-330 targets (2.4%) over the last three years.
that’s mine as well. just makes too much sense. not too expensive. knows the system. very underrated. could be very good for the young guys. actually i don’t know that last part. i have no idea who he is as a person or if he’d even want to be a mentor. but the other parts are true.
he seems to like mcvay, so i think there’s a chance. but does he really want to play with goff who’s completely unproven.
March 9, 2017 at 2:17 am #66023znModeratorhttp://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/la/los-angeles-rams
Alden Gonzalez
ESPN Staff WriterThe Rams didn’t agree to terms with any receivers on Wednesday and a few of them came off the board, including Pierre Garcon with the 49ers (multi-year deal that will pay him $16M in the first), Kenny Stills to the Dolphins (4 years, $32 million) and Brandon Marshall to the Giants (2 years, $12 million). Rams are still hopeful of agreeing with a WR by the time free agents can sign on Thursday, at 1 pm PT, and Stills’ deal could help set the market for that second tier. Rams probably won’t go higher than that range.
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