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August 15, 2023 at 9:48 am #144875znModerator
The Rams will hold joint practices with the Raiders this week and Mike LaFleur explained what he wants to see from Puka Nacua. https://t.co/jIRez2wzhO
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 15, 2023
August 16, 2023 at 7:49 pm #144892wvParticipantI think Puka may already be the 2nd best offensive weapon on the team. Kupp is first, obviously.
I dunno why he wasnt picked earlier in the draft.
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August 16, 2023 at 8:27 pm #144893znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Good morning from the first day of Rams/Raiders joint practices, which begin at 10AM. The field is set, and the Rams players who are lifting beforehand are blasting pop punk. None of these things are connected, but the caffeine has hit my system.I see TE Davis Allen out there for the first time since camp started. Was dealing with a hamstring.
Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Matthew Stafford said Maxx Crosby is “a heck of a player” and fun to practice against: “Any time he gets within five feet of me he’s yelling, “Sack!” in my face, so I have no idea if those are real. I mean, I’m not just an absolute statue back there. I can move a little bit”Levi Damien@LeviDamienMatt Stafford out here making a bunch of “there’s no defense for a perfect pass” passes.Ted Nguyen@FB_FilmAnalysis
Main takeaway from today’s practice is that the Rams played a lot more aggressive coverage than they regularly do and the Raiders really struggled to connect deep. D. Adams drew a couple of deep DPIs and Jimmy finally connected deep on a sideline pass in 2-minute. But mostly a lot of holding the ball and incompletions today.Important to note: Rams gave the Raiders a very different look than the 49ers which Josh McDaniels noted would happen before practice.
49ers even attacking front, zone
Rams odd front, 2-gap
Tashan Reed@tashanreed
During 11-on-11, #Raiders DE Maxx Crosby chased down Cam Akers on a run play and tried to punch the ball loose. The play was basically dead, so Akers took offense and punches were thrown. Both sides got involved and it eventually got broken up.Akers got kicked out of practice, assumedly since he bumped Crosby first after he tried to knock the ball loose. Crosby is still on the sideline but was held out of the rest of the drill.
Crosby: “I do what I do. He didn’t like it, and he got what he got.”
Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Sean McVay said the Rams have a no-tolerance policy for fighting in practice: “If you do that, you’re out.”So that’s why Cam Akers was kicked out of practice
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Throwing Tomlinson right into the fire on the outside. Adams matched up a lot vs Tomlinson during these 11/11s (full field drives). Adams got him on a long left sideline catch. Tomlinson had a PBU intended for Adams in the back left end zone corner.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Tre Tomlinson getting tested at outside CB in 11 v 11 today but doing solid job overall. Pushed Davante Adams out of bounds before Adams could complete catch. Adams hauled in deep pass down left sideline later on, but Tomlinson bounced back with PBU on Adams in corner of endzoneJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Can’t hit anybody but Byron Young gotten a couple of good pressures so far in 11s today.Tutu Atwell had a really solid day, and drew praise from McVay and Stafford. McVay went so far as to say he’s “playing big” ….Atwell is doing way more in this offense this year
Matthew Stafford with a little “old guy” joke on dustups during practice: “I don’t have enough energy for all of that, to be honest with you.” Added everyone settled back down quickly.
Logan Reever@loganreever
The #Raiders D-line is obliterating the #Rams O-line in 1-on-1sButler, Rochell, and Plant all bulldozing and dominating their reps right before Crosby here #RaiderNatio
Levi Edwards@theleviedwards
Raiders offensive line is, for lack of better words, bullying the Rams defensive line on 1-on-1’s.August 16, 2023 at 8:34 pm #144894znModeratorRams host Raiders: Byron Young’s best days yet and more from joint practice
Jourdan Rodrigue
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Midway through training camp, Los Angeles Rams rookie outside linebacker Byron Young moved into the starting defensive rotation.
Now, Young is doing what he can to stay there — and the coaching staff is both testing his physical readiness and mental toughness, and encouraging him to try new things.
Young played a little more than 20 snaps in their first preseason game Saturday, which was “strategic,” said defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, who wanted to assess Young’s situational awareness when he was tired.
“When he was fresh and healthy and ready to go, he looked awesome,” Morris said Monday, smiling. “When he was tired, he looked tired.”
“Just consistency,” coach Sean McVay added Wednesday, of what he’s hoping to see from Young as he gets his “NFL legs” under him. “Consistent get-off, being aligned right. Getting in the proper stance to be able to execute your technique within the framework of the call, based on the situations.”
Young, who was a third-round pick, responded to those snaps (and the clear challenge from the coaches) with his best two days of practice yet: Monday, and Wednesday’s joint session with the Raiders. On Wednesday, his speed popped a couple of times with multiple pressures in 11-on-11 drills, and it also seemed like Young’s energy stayed high even with a heavy workload on a hot day.
“I felt great,” Young said after practice, “felt like I had some good rushes and (was) getting off the ball well. … The preseason game, that conditioning, I liked the way they did that. I need to prepare my body for the regular season. The way they do that conditioning, I loved it. Next game I hope they do the same thing.”
Further, Young was working on several different types of pass rush moves Wednesday, including speed-to-power combinations, speed-and-leverage combinations and spins.
“In OTAs, I was kind of using the same moves,” Young said. “My coach (Joe Coniglio) challenged me over the break we had for a month. He said, ‘Byron, I want to challenge you to bring some more moves to the table. Don’t keep doing the same thing, change it up a little bit.’ … So since we’ve started camp, I’ve just tried new moves.”
Young’s favorite pass rush move is the ghost rush, where he fakes a long-arm against the lineman and then drops the arm and dips low without contact while bending around the outside. It takes a lot of speed and craftiness to execute well. Young tried it a little in the spring and at the beginning of camp, but over the last couple of weeks has been working on the move more so behind the scenes. He hopes to re-enter a better (and more well-conditioned) version of it into his arsenal in the coming weeks.
“I think that’s the best part about these things,” McVay said. “When you look at anybody that is successful at their craft, these are the times, without being reckless, to try some techniques and fundamentals to add to your tool belt. … That’s exactly what we want. We want guys who aren’t afraid to try that stuff.”
More notes and observations from the first of two Rams/Raiders joint practices:
• A light skirmish broke out in the latter third of the day, during 11-on-11s. Rams running back Cam Akers was finishing a run after the play was whistled to a stop, as the running backs are instructed to do. Raiders defensive end Maxx Crosby chased Akers down and tried to swat the ball out of his hands, and the two players exchanged swings at each other as teammates rushed to intervene. Akers was kicked out of practice by McVay, while Crosby remained on the sideline but out of the scrimmage for the rest of the day (there would have been nowhere for him to go except the boiling-temperature buses sitting in the parking lot).
“I’ve never gotten that far down the field, to be honest, so, um, I’m not really sure what the rules are down there,” quarterback Matthew Stafford said dryly. “I’m usually sliding way before that. I don’t know what happened there, but joint practices get that way a little sometimes. I don’t have much experience in that area.
“I thought everybody did a great job today, the rest of the day was fine (and) event-free. I don’t have enough energy for all of that, to be honest with you,” he added, laughing. “But more power to those guys.”
• Receiver Tutu Atwell again stood out Wednesday. He had a long catch over his shoulder but also caught a tough ball amid some contact on an out-breaking route and drew a flag in the process.
Atwell has expanded what he’s able to do within the Rams’ offense through this spring and summer. McVay went so far as to say that he is “playing big” — a significant compliment toward the smaller-framed, third-year wideout.
“He is super smart. … I think he’s playing physical at the catch point, too,” McVay said.
Stafford looked sharp in 11-on-11s, including a long period where he did not miss a throw except for a drop by Brycen Hopkins. He also threw a nice ball to tight end Tyler Higbee down the right sideline and hit Van Jefferson on a tough crosser through traffic (that usually goes to teammate Cooper Kupp) over the course of the practice.
• Rams offensive lineman Joe Noteboom, who was competing at left tackle before moving into the competition at right guard late in the week, went through individual drills but did not fully practice Wednesday.
“He’s dealing with a little something right now,” McVay said, declining when pressed to share more details. “He won’t be practicing the rest of the week.
Noteboom tore his Achilles last season and was still rehabbing into OTAs but went through a full training camp. He did not play in Saturday’s preseason game. The Rams have still not publicly determined what their “best five” offensive line combination will be, but Alaric Jackson has taken over the bulk of the left tackle reps, and Tremayne Anchrum was back at right guard, where he started camp before Noteboom eventually began rotating with him.
“It’s a constant learning thing, we’re trying to figure out what we’re gonna be good at, what our certain guys are good at,” Stafford said. “I thought they did a nice job setting their pads in the run game, had some nice creases in there.”
The offensive linemen had a pretty mixed day overall. They were not consistently winning one-on-one drills against the Raiders’ defensive linemen and pass rushers early in practice, and there were some clear misses in pass protection in team drills. Stafford did get pressured some around the right side when Crosby was still participating pre-skirmish (right tackle Rob Havenstein and Crosby spent some extra time together after practice). Stafford joked that it might not always be what it looks like … or sounds like.
“For the most part, I had some time back there. Now, Crosby is a heck of a player and was in the backfield a few times,” he said, “I’ve got to go watch the tape. Anytime he gets within five feet of me he’s yelling ‘SACK’ in my face, so I have no idea if those are real. I mean, I’m not just an absolute statue back there, I can move a little bit. But, so I’ve got to go check it out and look at it. … Fun guy to practice against.” (For the record, Crosby would have sacked Stafford twice, by that math).
• Rookie cornerback Tre Tomlinson was thrown into the fire often against star Raiders receiver Davante Adams, who was back practicing fully after missing a little time, among other cornerbacks who had the tough matchup. Adams, for the most part, looked every bit of his elite status.
But Tomlinson, who is 5-foot-9 yet plays mostly on the outside for the Rams, kept attacking. In the full-field, two-minute period at the end of the day, Adams smoothly won a long catch down the left sideline with Tomlinson in coverage. But a few plays later, Tomlinson broke up a would-be touchdown attempt to Adams in the back left corner of the end zone.
“In these types of settings, it’s great for us as coaches and our players to go out and compete,” McVay said. “One of my favorite things was, they were going to make a couple plays, but I liked the way (Tomlinson) finished.”
There was also a scary collision on a deep throw by Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo early in the day, between Adams, Tomlinson and safety Jordan Fuller. The pass was incomplete, and Adams’ helmet popped off from the contact, but he was able to return to practice. Garoppolo hit Phillip Dorsett for a touchdown on a similar concept a few moments later.
• Backup quarterback Stetson Bennett was challenged frequently by the Raiders’ defense, and his play continues to fluctuate. Bennett did have two excellent throws in separate 11-on-11 periods. The first was an off-platform missile to Demarcus Robinson up the middle of the field, but it was followed by a botched snap and then an interception. The second was a precision throw down the left sideline to Ben Skowronek.
• Rookie offensive lineman Warren McClendon missed OTAs with a knee issue, but his workload has gradually increased through training camp. After making his preseason debut, he’s now fully in the mix with the second team and playing both tackle spots with the reserves (one of his best reps of the day came in pass protection as a left tackle).
• The Rams’ defensive line is under scrutiny after a less-than-ideal first preseason game against the Chargers. On Wednesday, Kobie Turner and Michael Hoecht (who was playing outside linebacker) combined to “sack” (no contact allowed) Garoppolo and drew a lot of praise from coaches on the sideline.
• A couple of the second-team defensive backs made splash plays late in the day: Cornerback Cameron McCutcheon and safety Tanner Ingle broke up consecutive passes by Raiders backup quarterback Aidan O’Connell. However, O’Connell got a nice ball to receiver Kristian Wilkerson, which, in a live game, would have been a catch-and-run touchdown, and had time in the pocket later in the series against the reserve defensive line and pass rushers to get a throw downfield to receiver Cam Sims.
• Rookie kicker Tanner Brown was kicking on the “skinny poles” Wednesday, meaning the portable field goal setup that is much narrower than the official posts. At the end of the two-minute period, Brown missed a kick wide left that would also have been missed on a regulation-size set of goal posts. He then hit a kick over the top of the left pole and barely missed a third kick left (both would have been good in a game).
• Aaron Donald had a rest day but will be back Thursday. Tight end Davis Allen (hamstring) got back onto the field after missing training camp, but Hunter Long (groin) is still out. Cornerback Derion Kendrick (hamstring) is still out. Kupp (hamstring) could be back next week for joint practices against the Broncos. Safety John Johnson III, who is getting onboarded gradually after not having OTAs while unsigned, got more reps in team drills with the second group.
August 16, 2023 at 8:35 pm #144895znModeratorTutu. Too Fast.💨 pic.twitter.com/V0rSd10WfL
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 16, 2023
August 16, 2023 at 8:38 pm #144896znModeratorThe rook makin' a play against the vet.👀 pic.twitter.com/BARZFkr8ck
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 16, 2023
August 16, 2023 at 8:38 pm #144897znModeratorStetson 🎯 Skowronek pic.twitter.com/t9Im7L7p8K
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 16, 2023
August 16, 2023 at 9:03 pm #144898znModerator10 Observations from Rams’ first joint practice with Raiders: Tre Tomlinson tested at outside CB, Tutu Atwell making plays, and more
Stu Jackson
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Rams held their first of two joint practices with the Raiders on Wednesday, a session highlighted by defensive back Tre Tomlinson, wide receiver Tutu Atwell and linebacker Ernest Jones’ performances.
Here are 10 things that stood out from it:
1) Rest day for Donald: Defensive tackle Aaron Donald had a veteran rest day and did not participate in today’s joint practice. McVay said the team doesn’t go back-to-back days with him in terms of managing him, and they also thought tomorrow would be a better day for Donald to go because of the work and schedule they have for tomorrow.
2) Noteboom only does some individual drills: Offensive lineman Joe Noteboom did not participate in team drills during today’s joint practice because he’s “dealing with a little something” right now, per McVay. Noteboom will not be practicing the rest of this week, according to McVay, who also said he didn’t have any details beyond that.
3) More trial by fire for Tomlinson: Just as the Rams did in the preseason opener, rookie defensive back Tre Tomlinson was getting reps at outside cornerback and tested. Matched up with all-pro receiver Davante Adams during 11-on-11 drills, Tomlinson pushed Adams out of bounds before he could complete a catch. Adams got Tomlinson back a few plays later on a nice catch deep down the left sideline, then Tomlinson responded not long after with a pass breakup in the corner of the endzone.
4) Tutu making plays: Wide receiver Tutu Atwell had a couple of impressive catches during Wednesday’s practice, hauling in a deep ball from quarterback Matthew Stafford near the sideline and also connecting with Stafford on contested catch in traffic off a play-action fake.
5) Byron bringing the heat: The were a few instances of rookie outside linebacker Byron Young putting his speed on display and generating pressure against the Raiders offensive line and quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo.
6) Jones making his presence felt: It was hard to miss Rams linebacker Ernest Jones, especially during 11-on-11 drills. At one point, he blew up a Raiders run play to the outside. Shortly thereafter, he charged up the middle for another run stop. He also got very good pressure on Garoppolo, but Garopollo – who, like all quarterbacks, was wearing a red non-contact jersey – got the ball out just in time to deliver a deep completion down the left sideline to Adams.
7) Ahkello says hello: Defensive back Ahkello Witherspoon during 11-on-11 had a strong pass breakup on a Garoppolo pass intended for Adams.
8) Rookies team up for stop: In 11-on-11, defensive end Desjuan Johnson brought the pressure on Raiders quarterback Aidan O’Connell, and defensive back Tanner Ingle quickly took advantage with a timely pass breakup that got the Rams defense fired up.
9) More pressure: Nose tackle Kobie Turner and outside linebacker Michael Hoecht worked together to generate pressure on Garoppolo that would’ve resulted in a sack.
10) Akers, Crosby removed from practice: McVay didn’t see what happened between Rams running back Cam Akers and Raiders outside linebacker Max Crosby during one part of 11-on-11, but the altercation after a play resulted in both being removed from practice before it finished – Crosby returning to the Raiders sideline and Akers going back into the Rams’ facility. McVay said that’s the rule if that happens.
“If you’re involved in it, you know, we’re just kind of no tolerance,” McVay said.
After both players were separated and removed, practice proceeded without any issue, and McVay said they were able to get accomplished what they needed to.
August 17, 2023 at 4:47 pm #144913znModeratorGreat move by Puka, but that ball placement is just… sheesh https://t.co/ige0u9Y8XH
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) August 17, 2023
August 17, 2023 at 4:56 pm #144915znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
One-on-ones are pretty subjective. That said, Alaric Jackson and Coleman Shelton put together a couple nice reps. Crosby remains real tough for anybody on the right side to block.Tougher sledding than it already was on that right side vs Crosby during 11/11s
Ted Nguyen@FB_FilmAnalysis
Raiders still couldn’t connect deep but offense had some answers and moved the ball more efficiently. Meyers was particularly effective vs what the Rams were doing in 11 on 11. I think they got a lot from these practices to work with.Logan Reever@loganreever
#Raiders defense bringing a better energy and effort today.But Stafford still getting his with chunk plays. Pocket collapsing quick and d-line is forcing roll outs, but Rams O still completing balls. Pin point accuracy from Stafford again even on the run.
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August 17, 2023 at 9:23 pm #144920znModeratorRaiders-Rams practice: Garoppolo-Renfrow sharp in red zone, pressure mounts for LA offense
Jourdan Rodrigue and Tashan Reed
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — The Los Angeles Rams hosted the Las Vegas Raiders for the second of two joint practices Thursday.
The Athletic’s Rams beat writer Jourdan Rodrigue and Raiders beat writer Tashan Reed also joined forces — to gather takeaways. Jourdan focused on the Rams’ offense going against the Raiders’ defense while Tashan handled the Raiders’ offense taking on the Rams’ defense.
Raiders offense-Rams defense (Reed)
• Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald was limited during team drills after taking a rest day Wednesday, but he kicked off one-on-one drills with a bang when he flattened Raiders guard Netane Muti and drove him to the ground on his first rep of the day. Muti shoved Donald and a brief skirmish began, but linemen on both sides quickly separated them.
• Donald set an early tone that seemed to energize the Rams’ defensive line. Edge rusher Byron Young beat Raiders offensive tackle Kolton Miller twice during one-on-ones.
• Fellow edge rusher Desjuan Johnson had the rep of the period when he bull-rushed Raiders guard McClendon Curtis and knocked him off his feet. Young took that honor in two-on-two drills when he torched Raiders offensive tackle Justin Herron. Overall, the Rams’ defensive linemen consistently got the better of the Raiders’ offensive linemen early.
• Conversely, the Raiders’ receivers and tight ends were giving the Rams’ defensive backs the business in one-on-one and seven-on-seven red zone drills. Raiders receiver Hunter Renfrow, in particular, kept finding ways to get open and caught three red zone touchdown passes from Jimmy Garoppolo. There were no interceptions and pass deflections and incompletions were infrequent.
“Hunt’s been awesome, man. He sees the field very well. He makes it easy on me. He’s very decisive in his routes,” Garoppolo said Thursday. “All those guys have been doing a good job. They’re giving me easy targets, so it makes my job a lot easier.”
• While starters didn’t face each other often Wednesday, both sides had their first-team units on the field once an 11-on-11 move-the-ball drill began. The Raiders attempted to lean on the run game initially, but had little success. The starting interior of the Raiders’ offensive line saw some shuffling with left guard Dylan Parham missing his second straight practice due to injury. Muti was at left guard, Andre James was at center and Greg Van Roten was at right guard. They were fine in pass protection, but the run blocking left plenty to be desired.
• When the Raiders’ offense turned to the air, the Rams’ secondary appeared to settle in. Raiders receiver Davante Adams was left in one-on-one coverage and tested Rams cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon on a go route. Garoppolo recognized the matchup and threw a good ball toward Adams, but Witherspoon timed his jump perfectly and swatted the ball away. The Rams’ pass rush had slowed, but with the run defense and pass coverage on point, they still managed to force a stop.• During the same drill, the Raiders’ backup offense actually had more success. Quarterback Brian Hoyer found receiver Tre Tucker on a post route for a 30-yard touchdown to cap off the first scoring drive of team periods.
“I have a great room, obviously. They’ve helped me come along,” Tucker said Thursday when asked about his progress. “Thanks to those guys, I’m continuing to progress as fall camp goes. I don’t think it ever stops. For me, it’s just taking all the years that I have in my group and just trying to apply it to myself to try to be the best player I can be.”
• Tucker had a rough preseason debut against the 49ers that included two drops, but he performed well against the Rams this week.
“He’s explosive. He’s strong,” Garoppolo said. “He’s willing to fight for that ball. And for a rookie to come in and have that, that’s pretty rare. He’s nowhere near perfect. He’s got room to grow. When you’re a rookie, you just got to keep going. … He’s built the right way. And, mentally, I think he’s ready for it.”
• Next up was a two-minute drill and the Raiders’ first-team offense found its groove. Garoppolo peppered the Rams’ defense with multiple short sideline completions to Adams and Renfrow and the offense made its way down the field with little pushback. The Raiders came close to running out of time once they made it into the red zone, though, and ultimately settled for a field goal.
• After a special teams period, the Raiders’ first-team offense took the field again for another move-the-ball drill. Garoppolo led another meticulous drive that ended with a short touchdown pass to tight end Michael Mayer in the red zone.
• The Rams’ defense looked to be reeling, but they recovered once the backups took the field. Rams edge rusher Nick Hampton and defensive end Earnest Brown IV each registered would-be sacks that helped force a stop.
• The final period of practice was an 11-on-11 red zone drill pitting the Raiders’ first-team offense against the Rams’ first-team defense. Early in the possession, Donald quickly beat Muti and pressured Garoppolo into an incompletion. Garoppolo bounced back with a couple short completions, though, and worked the Raiders within a few yards of the goal line. A Rams defensive back — his jersey number couldn’t be made out from the media’s point of view — nearly ended the drive when he jumped a pass intended for Renfrow, but he dropped an interception.
• Garoppolo should’ve completed a touchdown to Mayer on the next snap, but he was off target and threw behind him. On fourth down, Garoppolo targeted Adams on a fade route in the corner of the end zone. Adams made the catch and the Raiders’ sideline celebrated, but the referees ruled him out of bounds. There was a lengthy discussion between the two teams debating whether Adams was in, but the call ultimately stood and the Rams’ defense ended practice with a win.
“We got video footage. We just needed a red flag to be thrown,” Garoppolo joked when asked if he thought it was a catch. “There was a lot of competing out there. I’ve gone against these guys a lot, so it was a lot of fun these last couple days.”
Rams offense-Raiders defense (Rodrigue)
• One-on-one (or in Thursday’s case for some periods, two-on-two) offensive lineman/defensive lineman drills can be subjective and often need context, but some of the Rams’ offensive linemen seemed to step up their physicality after a tough Wednesday. Left tackle Alaric Jackson and center Coleman Shelton especially appeared to improve. Meanwhile, Maxx Crosby remained extremely difficult to block on many pass-rush reps, particularly on the right side of the Rams’ offensive line, and that carried from drills into 11-on-11s where the Rams’ first-team offense faced the Raiders’ first-team defense. The Raiders’ defense, despite starting slow Thursday, immediately had a ton of visible (and audible) energy whether on the field or the sideline waiting to rotate into a series.
• Reserve right tackle Logan Bruss had two of his fingers painfully facing the wrong direction after one of the drills, and a Rams medical assistant tried to reset them on the field. Bruss went into the athletic training room and re-emerged with new tape on his hands and wrists. It became pretty important that he got back on the field, despite the injury, because starter Rob Havenstein left practice during 11-on-11s with what McVay said is a neck stinger. He added he believes Havenstein will be OK.
• However, that meant Bruss, who fully reverted to right tackle just three weeks ago after missing his entire rookie season to injury, had to face Crosby repeatedly. Bruss has generally looked consistent on run plays but was up-and-down in pass protection, especially when aligned across from Crosby — though he had a nice pass-pro rep late in the day.
“I think he’s getting more comfortable, we’re kind of settling him in at the right tackle spot,” McVay said. “You’re going against one of the premier players in this league. Think there are some things where he’s continuing to gain confidence, think there’s certain things that he has done at a high level and there’s things that we want to continue to see more consistency. It’s like anything else, you just have to continue to work at it.”
• Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and Crosby drew their respective competitive lines in the sand in the opening 11-on-11 series. A flag flew after a couple of linemen on either side of the ball flinched, and Stafford appeared to believe it was a false start while Crosby argued the opposite. McVay decided on a compromise: To replay the down. Stafford got the defense to jump a little later on a hard count.
• Stafford hit tight end Brycen Hopkins on a sharp mid-range throw while rolling to his right, and this ended the first series. He also found success with catch-and-run plays to veteran tight end Tyler Higbee. However, on a later series, Hopkins dropped a missile of a pass across the middle and then the Rams turned the ball over on a handoff.
• Then, Stafford wanted a deep receiver on a throw but settled for a short pass to beat pressure from Crosby. Stafford’s second series, minus Havenstein, featured heavy pressure from the Raiders’ defensive line. If sacks counted, Stafford would have had one from the interior (Raiders defensive tackle Adam Butler), and another off the right edge on fourth down from Crosby.
• Stafford also threw deep to receiver Tutu Atwell in his second series in 11-on-11s but the two couldn’t connect (however, they did hook up for a touchdown near the end of 11-on-11s). He tried receiver Van Jefferson on a similar concept in a later series but again, the pass was incomplete. Stafford’s quick, short passes and pressure-beaters were often effective – and deployed at high volume. That meant fewer opportunities for the Raiders’ defensive backs to make plays on the ball. Teams don’t typically game plan for joint practices, so it seemed like they were adjusting to different types of pressure from the Raiders on the fly (as the Raiders also had to adjust to what the Rams presented).
“It’s situational, I mean we’re playing ‘rules ball’ out here. Obviously, if you are going against a player like (Crosby) … you’re going to have different things (in a real game) that (are) the first part of when you’re building an inventory to put a game plan together offensively and defensively,” McVay said. “That wasn’t the case for the last couple days. I think it’s a great opportunity, both for Rob (Havenstein) and then obviously Logan Bruss, getting the opportunity to go against a player like that. If you can really be able to go through some of these stressful situations, with no real repercussions other than, ‘let’s go try to f—— compete as best we can, and see what happens,’ that’s what we want to see guys do.”
• The Rams’ backups, led by quarterback Stetson Bennett, took over next (first and second teams rotated series’). When Bruss eventually replaced Havenstein as first-team right tackle, Grant Miller got some snaps at reserve right tackle with Bennett’s group.
• Bennett has continued to fluctuate in camp, but it has become a given that for every few bad plays he’ll make an outstanding one or come back from pressure in a positive way. Thursday, Bennett was “sacked” twice on his first drive of 11-on-11s, then a couple of plays later he completed a tough pass to receiver Tyler Johnson, down the left sideline (that looked similar to the third-and-long throw he made in last week’s preseason game). Bennett opened his second drive by completing his first two passes, but overthrew Demarcus Robinson on the right sideline near the end of the drive.
• Running back Cam Akers was back at practice after getting ejected Wednesday when he and Crosby got into it. Both players seemed in great spirits, including with each other, and Crosby chattered to Akers after correctly diagnosing and stuffing a Rams run play. Akers broke off a run later in the practice that drew loud praise from coaches on the sideline. After the play, receiver Puka Nacua was praised for his effort in helping block for Akers. Nacua was also targeted heavily by Stafford in his last series in 11-on-11s.
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• McVay switched back and forth between the first-team offensive field and the first-team defensive field. When he wasn’t with the offense, the trio of offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur, quarterbacks coach Zac Robinson and pass game specialist Jake Peetz took over the operation, with LaFleur and Robinson calling plays. Robinson will call the offense for the Rams on Saturday; McVay always delegates preseason play calling to his assistant coaches as does defensive coordinator Raheem Morris.
Notes
• There were seven Raiders who didn’t practice: running back Brittain Brown, receiver Phillip Dorsett, guard Parham, defensive ends Chandler Jones and Adam Plant Jr., defensive tackle Byron Young and cornerback Brandon Facyson. Cornerback Nate Hobbs returned to practice after missing Wednesday.
• Rams tight end Davis Allen got more reps with the reserves in his second day at practice, after missing all of training camp with a soft-tissue injury. Tight end Hunter Long did not practice after McVay said he had a “setback” with a quad pull.
• Rams center Brian Allen did not practice for unspecified reasons, but was present — indicating a scheduled rest day. Cornerback Derion Kendrick, who has missed the entirety of training camp with a hamstring issue, did not practice. Receiver Cooper Kupp (hamstring) did not practice although McVay has said he believes Kupp could get back into the mix in Denver next week.
• The Rams will raise funds by selling custom T-shirts and designate their 50/50 raffle in Saturday’s game to support the American Red Cross relief efforts in Hawaii following devastating wildfires. The shirts say “Malama Maui”, which translates to “Care for Maui”.
• A reporter asked Donald who he thought won the skirmish between Akers and Crosby, and Donald chuckled — saying he had asked both players.
“‘I won, I won,’” he said, imitating the response from both Akers and Crosby. “I don’t know, I’m gonna say it’s a tie.”
August 17, 2023 at 10:00 pm #144921znModerator10 Observations from Rams’ second joint practice with Raiders: Aaron Donald in action, Tutu Atwell and Puka Nacua making plays, and more
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-second-joint-practice-raiders-aaron-donald-tutu-atwell
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Rams on Thursday held their second and final joint practice of this week with the Raiders this week, with defensive tackle Aaron Donald, quarterback Matthew Stafford and wide receivers Puka Nacua and Tutu Atwell’s performances among the highlights from the session.
Here are 10 things that stood out from it:
1) Donald back: After taking a rest day for the first joint practice on Wednesday, Donald was back in action on Thursday. He made his presence felt on a couple run stops in the backfield and also caused pressure on the interior that allowed defensive back Robert Rochell to break up Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo’s pass over the middle during team drills.
2) Havenstein leaves practice with neck stinger: Rams offensive lineman Rob Havenstein walked off the field during team drills and did not participate in the rest of practice after sustaining what head coach Sean McVay said was a stinger in his neck, based on the early prognosis. “I think he’s ok,” McVay said after practice.
3) Extensive time at right tackle for Bruss during 11-on-11: With Havenstein sidelined for the rest of practice, second-year offensive lineman Logan Bruss took his place at right tackle. It was valuable experience for Bruss, who was often going up against one of the NFL’s top pass-rushers in Raiders defensive end Maxx Crosby.
“When Rob went down, he had to step in, and you’re going against one of the premier players in this league,” McVay said, referring to Crosby. “And so I think there’s some things that, you know, he’s continuing to gain confidence, there’s certain things that he’s done at a high level, and there’s things that we want to continue to see more consistency. So it’s like anything else, you just got to continue to work at it.”
4) Rochell coverage in 1-on-1: Defensive back Robert Rochell had a nice rep against Raiders wide receiver Jakobi Meyers, as Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo couldn’t complete the pass intended for Meyers in the corner of the endzone thanks to Rochell’s coverage.
5) Tomlinson coverage in 1-on-1 and 11-on-11: Defensive back Tre Tomlinson also had a nice rep in 1-on-1s, breaking up a pass by Raiders quarterback Bryan Hoyer near the corner of the endzone that was intended for wide receiver Isaiah Zuber. In one rep during 11-on-11, he broke up deep pass by Garoppolo.
6) Puka winning in 1-on-1: One of wide receiver Puka Nacua’s best reps of the day came in 1-on-1s, when he beat Raiders cornerback Sam Webb to take advantage of a perfectly-placed ball by quarterback Matthew Stafford.
7) Stafford side-arm: One of Stafford’s best passes of the day was a short side-arm completion to tight end Tyler Higbee as he was escaping pressure from Crosby. Stafford and Crosby had a friendly interaction after the play, perhaps in connection to Stafford’s comments after yesterday’s practice, when a smiling Stafford said “any time (Crosby) gets within five feet of me, he’s yelling ‘Sack!’ in my face.” Stafford also said Wednesday that “I’m not just an absolute statue back there. I can move a little bit.”
8) Toe-tap Tutu: Wide receiver Tutu Atwell made an impressive touchdown reception on a short pass from Stafford during 11-on-11, making a toe-tap catch in the back of the endzone.
9) Fuller’s pass-breakup and near-interception highlight stand near goal line for Rams defense: Defensive back Jordan Fuller had a strong end to Thursday’s joint practice. When the Raiders offense was inside the 10-yard line, Fuller on the same series had an impressive pass breakup in the endzone on a Garoppolo pass intended for wide receiver Kristian Wilson. A couple plays later, he jumped in front of – and nearly picked off – a Garoppolo pass over the middle intended for wide receiver Jakobi Meyers.
10) Fun end to practice: The Rams’ first-team defense and Raiders’ first-team offense got in one final play before the end of Thursday’s practice, a 4th down near the goal line with friendly stakes attached: Whichever side lost the rep had to do push-ups. Adams made an impressive catch in tight coverage on a pass from Garoppolo, but caught the ball out of bounds on the side of the plane, according to the officials.
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