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  • #155689
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    What are their flaws and are they killer flaws? All IMO

    Allen: screwed with the system, it wasn’t tolerated
    Malavasi: great D coordinator, a bit out of his depth as the OC, not attuned right to offensive coaching/planning
    Robinson: in the end, the fact that the Rams could not draft killed him
    Knox II: he might have pulled it out but didn’t want to go with the team to St.L
    Brooks: just average really, but then was heavily behind drafting Phillips
    Vermeil: started rough but arguably knew what he was doing, stuck with players too long, best team builder in Rams history, fooled himself into retiring too soon
    Martz: a great offensive coach but an abrasive SOB who also couldn’t draft
    Linehan: his biggest mistake was taking the job…plus injury hell & bad drafts
    Haslett: more ambition than savvy
    Spags: we got him too early in his career–he came in thinking he had to be like Coughlin (his HC with the Giants before the Rams), and clearly it didn’t work…plus his own injury hell
    Fisher: never could figure out offense, but was better than what had come before going back to Martz
    McVay: started out with a good floor and high ceiling, some glitches along the way in a natural learning curve given his age, but right now he has the team perfectly set in terms of football savvy and culture…after a couple of iffy years drafting, they seem to have changed and recently they have been absolutely nailing it

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    One of the things McVay has had to deal with more than any coach i can remember, is, the coach-poaching. Man, he has had to replace half his coaches every damn year.

    And that says a lot about what the NFL thinks of McVay.

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    #155697
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    And that says a lot about what the NFL thinks of McVay.

    We’ve probably had this conversation, but McVay is my #1 all-time head coach.
    Vermeil #2, although his short tenure could drop him in some people’s books, I think.
    Knox I and Robinson, tied for 3rd.
    George Allen may get Honorable Mention, but I was just a damn kid back then.

    #155698
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    We’ve probably had this conversation, but McVay is my #1 all-time head coach.
    Vermeil #2, although his short tenure could drop him in some people’s books, I think.
    Knox I and Robinson, tied for 3rd.
    George Allen may get Honorable Mention, but I was just a damn kid back then.

    McVay has an advantage, I’d say, because of Snead and Kronke.
    I think DV had it a little tougher.

    Having said that, I’d say DV built the best Ram team in the modern era. The Faulk trade was just ridiculous.

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    #155701
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    If Robinson had good drafts… it wouldn’t matter…. John Shaw wouldn’t pay. I really liked Robinson… too bad the 19080’s Niners were one of the reasons that the NFL implemented a salary cap.

    do you folks remember when Jim Haslett knocked the candy bar out of Richie Incognito’s hands on the sidelines?

    Too bad Bradford got hurt in Carolina and again in Cleveland…, Fisher could’ve been a contender.

    BTW, i went skiing last month with my kid and stayed at the Econo Logde (free continental breakfast!)

    Anyway, the motel room had a college football channel, and they were broadcasting an old NCAA game titled “Matthew Stafford vs the Kentucky Wildcats” that was the actual title of the show. Thus, we watched.

    Rich Brooks was coaching Kentucky and is facing the Bulldogs in an amazing Matthew Stafford comeback. I turn to my kid and ask.. “Do you remember Jerome Bettis?” “because that jack ass HC for Kentucky traded him from the Rams to Pittsburgh”.

    #155721
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    Too bad Bradford got hurt in Carolina and again in Cleveland…, Fisher could’ve been a contender.

    Fisher wasn’t McVay, and there was always something a little (I dunno, for lack of a better word) “greasy” about him, but to be fair and objective, he would have done better than he did from 2012-2015 if he had both a healthy qb and a healthy OL at the same time for more games than he did. 2016 was just a mess though.

    Right now though the Rams can draft, they have the qb, McV is wired in both at the Xs and Os level and the culture building level–how far he goes is all a matter of team health.

    Vermeil though did build a team from nuthin. So I don’t know who I put at #1/#2.

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