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January 11, 2015 at 8:34 pm #16309AgamemnonParticipant
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my early top 100 prospects list
Posted: 11 Jan 2015 12:00 pmjust some draft talk…CH stands for character give some players a +/- score
1. Marcus Mariota QB Oregon
2. Williams DE/DT USC 6’5 298
3. Jameis Winston
4. Ronnie Staley OT Notre Dame soph 6’6 320 dancers feet with long arm LOT lacks anger
Randy Gregory DE/LB Nebraska fluid/smooth
5.Shane Ray 6’3 245 DE/LB elite burst
6.Amarai Cooper WR Alabama elite speed, very strong. Lacks some quickness out of his breaks drops catch able balls breaks CH+++
7.Shaq Thompson LB
8. Danny Shelton NT/DT 6’2 332 Washington massive0/1 tech works his butt off with great vision production
9. Andrus Peat LT Stanford LT 6’7 320 long arms noticeable difference power in run vs. pass
10. Landon Collins SS Alabama
11. Vic Beasley LB Clemson 6’2 235 33 career sacks not as good as Von Miller but close
12 Brandon Scherff OT/G 6’5 310 Iowa very strong lacks quickness to be elite lt
13 TJ Clemmings OT Pittsburgh 6’5 310 RT/LT physical and fast plays rt but could easily play left
14.Kevin White WR 6’4 215 West Virginia JC guy a natural..huge hands fluid
15 Dorial Green Beckham WR Oklahoma 6’5 225 CH– fast…similar to Green
Lael Collins OT/G LSU mean spirited road grader..might be athletic enough to stay at LT
16 Todd Gurley RB 6’1 226 Georgia elite rb speed power/hands might miss some time coming of ACL
17 Ereck Flowers OT Miami 6’6 325 powerful with enough quickness to play LT
18 Dante Fowler DE/LB 6’1 260 Florida junior elite burst
19. DeVante Parker WR Louisville
20 PJ Williams CB Florida st 6’0 200 runs like a deer hits like a truck
21 Marcus Peters CB Washington 6’0 198 CH— suspended in 2014 11 career int 35 pd drag down, indifferent tackler but fast talented shutdown cb
22 Sammie Coates WR Auburn very strong..runs through arm tackles good speed below avg hands routes 4.37 speed junior???
23 Michael Bennett DT Ohio St 6’2 290 quick feet hard worker productive best as 3 tech but can anchor
24 DeForest Buckner DE/DT perfect 3-4 de 6’6 286 NFL body nice burst long arms
25 Melvin Gordon RB Wisconsin 6’1 207 scary burst/speed quick feet /zero yards after contact hard worker/team player
26 CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State 6’1 185 fast good instincts good not great hips tackler
27 Jaelen Strong WR Arizona at 6’3 220 75 1062 14.2 10
Similar to Floyd lacks elite separation but huge hands/strong body
28 Malcolm Brown DT Texas 6’4 320 productive junior season bull rush only players very strong big bear good vision finds the ball
Benardrick McKinney top athlete little stiff made for a 3-4
29 Hundley QB UCLA Brain/talent zero instincts
30 Alvin Dupree DE Kentucky 6’4 270 lde lacks elite burst smart good athlete hard worker similar to mizzou de 40 vertical jump broad jump at 10-foot-7
31 Cedric Ogbuehi OT Texas A&M 6’5 300 LT lacks power/weak hands athletic quick drop in pass pro
32. David Cobb RB Minnesota 5’11 230 2800+ yards in last 2 years quick feet sub 4.5 speed major yards after contact
33. Denzil Perryman MLB Miami CH++ 5’11 240 squat mlber takes on blocks instinctive smart, productive
34.Nate Orchard DE Utah 6’4 255 CH+++ econ major … 24 career sacks 37.5 career tfl … seven career ff9 career pass breakups hard worker good motor speed lacks some strength 17.5 sacks 20 tfl as a senior
35. Gerod Holliman FS Louisville CH— 6’0 200 15 int 17 pd elite instincts indifferent tackler
36 Eric Kendricks OLB UCLA 6’0 230 wil only type but mega instincts/productions
37 Jake Fisher OT Oregon 6’6 300 RT really nice player..combative light feet
38 Grayson Colorado St QB 6’2 220 great pocket awareness/mobile acg arm/size
39.Marcus Golden DE Mizzou
40..Nelson Agholor USC WR/PR 6’1 190 junior elite slot wr..very productive 8 career td on pr t. The junior had 104 receptions for 1,313 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2014
41 Paul Dawson LB TCU scary production as a senior..major playmaker whether vs run or in coverage
42. Maxx Williams TE Minnesota 6’4 250 16.4 top athlete elite blocker soft hands good speed classic Y tad short
43 Danielle Hunter DE LSU 6’6 240 junior 8 tfl 3 sacks very lanky struggles to run a small arc..lacks strong hand supper body stength good at knocking passes down and straight line speed
44.Arik Armstead Oregon 6’7 305 DE junior 37 tackles 5.5 tfl for loss as junior passes the eyeball test but where’s the anger/passion?
45 Rashad Greene WR Florida st ..just gets open elite slot wr
46 Kevin Fuchness TE/WR Michigan 6’5 230 lacks quickness /speed more a te similar to Cook but better hands less speed
47. AJ Cann G Auburn l CH++ lacks elite power/quickness passes the eyeball test nice kid
48 .Lorenzo Mauldin DE/LB Louisville 6’4 250 25 tfl 16 sacks last 2 years fluid fast good player
49.Quentin Rollins CB Miami of Ohio 6’0 203 1 year starter former point guard elite production
50. Ty Sambrailo Colorado St T/G 6’5 315 LT elite athlete lacks upper body strength great job of sliding picking up blitzers/2nd
51. Ty Montgomery WR/KR /PR Stanford 6’2 215 poor mans Cordarrelle Patterson.. very good after the catch..avg before
52 Cameron Erving C/G/OT Florida 6’6 300
53. Jeff Heuerman TE Ohio St 6’5 260 4.68 CH+++ good not great hands solid blocker..long strider extrovert senior bowl
54 Cody Prewitt FS Mississippi 6’2 217 CH+++ aca rangy, instinctive fs with sideline speed career 12 int 25 pd
Chris Hackett FS TCU junior 6’2 195 1st Big 12 7 int as a junior very good tackler and coverage safety
54 Charles Gaines CB Louisville 5’10 5 180 junior graduated super fast/fluid great hips trash talker avg tackler
55 Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon heady productive cb without elite measurables
56 D’Joun Smith CB 5’10 190 Florida International 9 career int 41 career pd senior bowl…elite vision/hands good not great athlete
57 Hauoli Kikaha LB/DE 6’3 246 CH+++ x judo/wrestler champion 33 career sacks 51 tfl elite burst crazy upper body strength
58 Devin Smith WR Ohio St 6’1 190 4.38 speed a burner senior bowl
59 Ameer Abdullah RB Nebraska 5’9 195 CH+++ fast outside runner type
60 Eli Harold 6’4 250 36.5 career tfl 17.5 sacks long strider athletic lacks power stiff hips
59 Josue Matias G Florida St
60. Reese Dismukes C mister smooth..does everthing well day 1 starter
61 Justin Hardy WR Eastern Carolina CH+++
62 Laken Tomlinson G Duke CH+++ long arms very good in pass pro solid vs. run but not a road grader and avg in 2nd level
63. Jordan Phillips dt Oklahoma 6’5 334 NT/1 tech junior athletic NT 39 tackles 7 tfl
64 Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE UCLA CH+++ 13-13 41 20 61 11.5 6.0 sacks 5 pd junior 1st year starter bull rush, smart lde type of player
65 Hroniss Grasu C Oregon Ch+++
66 Derron Smith FS Fresno St 5’11 197 CH+++ leadership brainy/productive
67 Duke Johnson RB 5’9 206 junior very good 3rd down back skinny legs fast
68.Trey Flowers DE Arkansas 6’3 270 CH+++ looks lazy at times little anger..decent numbers 2nd SEC 34 34 68 15.5 6.0
69. Arie Kouandjio G Alabama 6’5 320 CH++ ACA econ major powerful player does a solid job in pass pro lacks some flexibility knee injuries a concern
70 Mike Davis RB South Carolina 5’9 223 tough downhill runner
71 Senquez Golson CB 5’9 176 Mississippi 16 career int 10 senior season All American small nickle back only good not great speed
72 Clive Walford TE Miami 6’4 260 junior 121career rec 14 td senior bowl
73 Danielle Hunter DE LSU 6’6 240 junior 8 tfl 3 sacks very lanky struggles to run a small arc..lacks strong hands/ upper body strength good at knocking passes down and straight line speed
74 Tyler Lockett WR/PR Kansas St CH+++ elite slot wr/pr
75 Christian Covington dt Rice 6’3 300 junior 1st team Conf USA as a soph injured junior season 59 ytackkles 4 sacks `14 tfl and 3 pd as a soph
76 Mike Davis RB
77 Mario Edwards Jr.DE Florida St 6’3 294
78 Tony Washington lb Oregon 6’3 250 CH+++ 23 tfl 13 sacks and 8 forced fumbles last 2 years hard hitter..3-4 teams will love him
79 Bryce Petty QB Baylor 6’3 220 CH+++ smart spread decent arm
weight lifter productive
80 Ramik Wilson MLB Georgia. 6’2 240 CH+++ Hits like a tank 140 tackles 22 tfl last 2 years
82 Anthony Harris FS/SS Virginia 6’1 190 19 career pd 11 int 270+ tackles
83 Tyler Kroft TE Rutgers junior 6’5 ½ 240 lanky te with very good speed/body control tries to block
84 Preston Smith DE Mississippi St 6’4 ½ 270 strong at poa slightly above avg quickness 48 tackles 15 tfl 9 sacks senior
85 Tre’ Jackson G 6’3 325 lacks quickness strong vs. run
86 Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 6’ 175 better in off but can press good eyes forward burst skinny struggles to tackle 35 pd 7 career int 2nd ACC
87 Jamil Douglas G Arizona St 6’4 300 CH+++ ACA leadership 1st team Pac 10 at LT…athletic plays angry Douglas is a long-time reliable starter, a ridiculous physical specimen who can power clean 385 pounds, squat 565, run a sub-5 second forty, and has a body fat measurement in the teens
88 Ronald Darby cb Florida St 5’11 195 looks smaller fast not instinctive
89 TJ Yeldon RB Alabama
90. Damarious Randall FS Arizona St 83-18-101 tackles cb burst elite tackler former JC kid senior bowl 3 int 11 pd as a senior
91. Nick Oleary TE Florida St 6’3 247 very smooth rt runner with solid hands
92 Sean Mannion QB Oregon St 6’5 220 CH+++ accurate pocket passer battles/lacks mobility
93 Max Garcia C/G/OT Florida 6’4 300 CH+++ senior bowl 2nd team SEC at center as a senior very light feet/long arms functional strength to hold poa
94 Jordan Hicks LB Texas 6th year senior very good player
95 Hayes Pullard LB USC CH+++
96 Imoan Claiborne CB Northwestern LA 5’10 190 All American senior bowl tough kid solid tackler with speed /fast hips
97 Karlos Williams RB Florida St CH— 6’1 225 downhill runner with burst/long speed soft hands some shake and bake
98 Robert Myers OG/OT Tennesee St 6’5 310 Senior bowl invite
99 Andy Gallik C Boston College 6’2 300 bulldog type of player good quickness
98 Dres Anderson WR Utah 6’2 190 injured 2014 son of Flipper explosive speed 4.4 needs more strength
99. JaCorey Shepherd cb 5’11 190 CH+++ ACA 31 pd in 2 years former wr
100 Daryl Williams OT Oklahoma 6’6 320 RT not as bulky but similar to Loadholt- This reply was modified 9 years, 10 months ago by Agamemnon.
January 11, 2015 at 8:40 pm #16314znModeratorA poster that works hard on scouting, from Ram Stalk. They use blue font.
Except there, blue font is code for “while I am mildly puzzled, I am also a bit intrigued.”
I think.
January 11, 2015 at 8:58 pm #16315AgamemnonParticipantAgamemnon wrote:
A poster that works hard on scouting, from Ram Stalk. They use blue font.Except there, blue font is code for “while I am mildly puzzled, I am also a bit intrigued.”
I think.
Designer blue?
January 11, 2015 at 9:39 pm #16316InvaderRamModeratori see shaq thompson and landon collins up there.
i wonder if landon collins can play free safety.
January 14, 2015 at 6:23 pm #16533AgamemnonParticipantTodd McShay, Mel Kiper Jr candidly discuss value of mock drafts
May 15, 2014 By paulmbanks 1 Comment
http://www.thesportsbank.net/nfl-mock-drafts/todd-mcshay-mel-kiper-jr/
todd-mcshay-espnBoth Todd McShay and Mel Kiper Jr, the NFL Draftniks of all NFL Draftniks do multiple conference calls with the media previewing the NFL Draft. The attendance for these calls is RIDICULOUS. These calls often last up to two hours, and many journalists don’t even get their questions in. ESPN doesn’t transcribe them because they would end up being like 40 pages long.
Mike Mayock of NFL Network does one as well, which took three hours and clocked in at 30 pages on the transcript. That’s how insane the media appetite is for Todd McShay and company. Safe to say this was the most over-hyped and pointlessly over-analyzed NFL Draft in history. The extra weeks of wait and the presence of Johnny Manziel had a lot to do ti.
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NFL mock drafts are fine pieces of journalism. If every journalism class you took was taught by Rex Chapman and Jalen Rose. All mock drafts are extremely inaccurate, nearly all the time. They’re not based on any type of actual inside information. No one is an “insider.” That’s just a B.S. term that networks through out to market themselves. Why do you think NFL teams call them “war rooms?”
Because, it’s all classified. They guard the secrets like CentComm. Look at how Jacksonville protected the the Blake Bortles smokescreen the whole time? No journalists are giving up those secrets. However, mock drafts are a ton of fun and they always gets an insane amount of traffic, because you just can’t help but click on them. That’s why I do so many of them.
You. Have. To.
Click and see who your team has mocked to them. Where that kid from alma mater is slotted to go. On Monday, both Todd McShay and Mel Kiper Jr. gave media conference calls, and since this was post draft, the media horde was much smaller and way more manageable. Some dude asked both men the same question about the value of mock drafts.
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Having been on several of these calls, with both Todd McShay and Mel Kiper, I can tell you that Kiper comes off as the guy you’d rather have a beer with. By a long shot. He’s friendlier and more down to Earth about it all than Todd McShay. Maybe it’s just the way he is, his personality. Kiper really seems to be into this stuff. You can tell from his enthusiasm for this material that he truly eats, sleeps and breathes this content. So we’ll start with him.
Kiper said it’s more about trying to get as many picks in the first round as possible than it is getting the picks exactly right. He said he got six this year, and his all time high one year was eight.
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“The only thing I care about it how many kids I get in the first round, you try to get anywhere between 24-28 and this year I got 26,” Kiper said, before mentioning that 28 was his all time high.
“You’re talking about a very difficult process, with trades and you always have, you try to give a range of where they’re going to go. You might be one or two picks off, but at least you give people an idea of where they might come off the board and also track the progression of the player through the process, his his perception changes, is the perception reality.”
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“That’s what the NFL Draft is, it’s great reality TV, no one knows what’s going to happen because we can’t get inside those war rooms.”
I totally agree, it is reality television, and this was the Jersey Shore of all NFL Drafts. This draft unfolded PERFECTLY on Thursday and Sunday for the NFL, NFL Network and ESPN. It was the exact scrip they hoped for: drama about when Johnny Manziel and AJ McCarron would go, would Michael Sam get picked? It was all there.
Now on to Todd McShay.
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He said that he hadn’t even looked at how he did. By Monday. I don’t believe that for one second and neither should you.
“I assume that no one did all that well, the bottom line is I want to get as many guys as possible, 25-26-27 as first rounders in that range. There’s always going to be trades, surprises, I’ve always said mock drafts are more for people like Adam Schefter, Chris Mortensen, guys that get information, than they are for guys who are evaluating tape,” Todd McShay said.
“Someone said we had 80 guys who landed in the top 100, I don’t even care about that. I want to know that 80-90% of the guys that we evaluated ended up having the careers that we predicted they would.”
Todd McShay sounded a little like Jay Cutler there with some insouciance and aloofness, but in the end I totally see eye to eye with him, in that NFL mock drafts are all about business.
“I know they get a lot of hits, they’re a lot of fun, and it’s a driving force in what we do because they get so much attention. And it makes money. But for me it’s probably the least important part of my job.”
January 15, 2015 at 4:13 pm #16585wvParticipant==================================================
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/1/15/7551797/2015-nfl-mock-draft-kiper-mocks-a-new-tackle-to-ramsAmid all the early January mockery, one name had yet to weigh in: ESPN’s Mock Draft Grandfather Mel Kiper, Jr.
No longer.
The Hair is here with his first mock of the year (helpfully placed behind ESPN’s insider paywall because bad), and it has a new name headed to St. Louis. First up though, let’s crack that top nine open:
1 Tampa Bay Jameis Winston QB Florida St.
2 Tennessee Marcus Mariota QB Oregon
3 Jacksonville Leonard Williams DL USC
4 Oakland Amari Cooper WR Alabama
5 Washington Randy Gregory DE Nebraska
6 New York Jets Shane Ray DE Missouri
7 Chicago Landon Collins SS Alabama
8 Atlanta Dante Fowler DE Florida
9 Minnesota Brandon Scherff OT IowaMuch of that top nine is awfully similar to Dan Kadar’s updated mock from Monday; the top five are identical and the Fowler to Atlanta pick is the same. Kiper drops Scherff to Minnesota in place of La’El Collins and puts two defenders in the 6 & 7 slots in place of Kadar’s selections of WR DaVante Parker and Scherff. So with just one wide receiver and one offensive tackle gone, Kiper has the Rams going with:
T.J. Clemmings (OT, Pittsburgh)
It’s hard to argue with position fit as nearly every mock draft since New Year’s Day has the Rams going with a tackle. Clemmings is an interesting prospect.
He arrived at Pitt in 2010 as an oversized defensive end and was plugged in right away. He was redshirted however for his true sophomore season which suggested they weren’t quite sure how to make use of his mammoth frame an unusual athleticism. His redshirt sophomore season, in 2012, had him begin a transition from defensive end to the offensive line having bloomed into a 300-lb. frame. In his final two seasons, Clemmings was a mainstay at right tackle for the Panthers and flourished in 2014 having picked up much of the technical game for an outside offensive lineman.
He should be a name that pops up as we head into combine season. He’s got an NFL frame and moves very well. It’s a question of risk. Rams should know about the difficulty of taking an oversized athlete and molding them into a tackle at the professional level…Jason Smith wasn’t just a protagonist in your nightmares…
But the draft isn’t meant to allow your previous failures to doom your future to a similar fate. It’s for reversing the flow of the tide. It’s something Clemmings had to do in his position move much to the delight of Pitt’s coaches as he was named a second-team All American for his performance in 2014:
“I’ve seen him dominate guys up front this year, and I’ll definitely miss him when he’s gone next year,” [Pitt RB James] Conner said.
NFL scouts like Clemmings for his 6-foot-6, 315-pound frame to go along with long arms and good athleticism, but [Pitt Interim Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator Joe] Rudolph and [Offensive Line Coach Jim] Hueber also praised the mental makeup it takes to learn a new position — and do it well — on the fly in just two years.
“I think it’s easy when you first make a move that if it doesn’t go well, you say, ‘Well, that’s the wrong move,’ ” Rudolph said. “But to be all in on a really drastic move — different side of the ball, never played it before — I think he’s very strong-minded and he’s obviously got confidence in himself that’s just continued to develop.”
January 15, 2015 at 4:20 pm #16587wvParticipantJanuary 15, 2015 at 5:16 pm #16601AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 15, 2015 at 5:19 pm #16602znModeratorDo they need a right tackle?
Maybe they will. Depends on Joe B.
But if they DO, put me down as nervous about the idea of fielding a rookie right tackle and a sophomore left tackle.
January 15, 2015 at 5:23 pm #16603wvParticipantYou are getting pretty good at this posting stuff, with links and videos and stuff. What is next? Algebra?
January 15, 2015 at 5:29 pm #16606znModeratorThe Story of Algebra, Part 1. What is Algebra?
January 15, 2015 at 5:35 pm #16607wvParticipantThe Story of Algebra, Part 1. What is Algebra?
Snisher needs to solve for X,
where X = QB.Also need to solve for C
and G. C and G = X, too.3 Xs
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vJanuary 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm #16610AgamemnonParticipantAgamemnon wrote:
You are getting pretty good at this posting stuff, with links and videos and stuff. What is next? Algebra?DEVLIN: That’s right. Arithmetic with letters is still arithmetic. Algebra’s is actually a very different way of thinking. With arithmetic, you actually take some numbers and you calculate a new number. With algebra, you think about numbers. You end up naming an unknown number – you called it X or Y – and then you reason, not arithmetically so much as logically. So, algebra is really logical thinking about numbers as opposed to arithmetic, which is calculating with numbers. And, in fact, it’s because people, I think, when kids don’t realize it’s a different way of thinking that they find algebra was so hard ’cause they try to solve algebra problems using arithmetic and it doesn’t work.
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/24/144219472/to-make-algebra-fun-rethink-the-problem
January 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm #16633JackPMillerParticipantMy prediction is we won’t be picking 10th. In other words, I believe we will be trading down.
February 4, 2015 at 11:18 pm #17946znModeratorMy prediction is we won’t be picking 10th. In other words, I believe we will be trading down.
That could be quite likely.
How do the O-linemen look in the bottom half of the 1st round.
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