post-KC game reactions …. Rams and Saints only 0-4 teams in pre-season

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  • #29802
    PA Ram
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    Do they get any kind of cup for that?

    By the way–only undefeated team? Chiefs.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29803
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    You just started the official game reactions thread.

    Just so you know, that comes with certain obligations.

    You have to keep it watered. And, take it for walks. And, take all the stuff back to the rental place afterwards.

    Btw the clown phoned and said something about a “relapse” but that he would “show up eventually.” He will take a check but not a credit card.

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    #29805
    PA Ram
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    Missed the game tonight due to work. I plan to watch it over the next couple days. Not sure this game mattered for anything beyond settling some final roster spots.

    Looks like Hager and Lynch had good games, eh?

    One will probably make it and one to the PS.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29806
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    Missed the game tonight due to work. I plan to watch it over the next couple days. Not sure this game mattered for anything beyond settling some final roster spots.

    Looks like Hager and Lynch had good games, eh?

    One will probably make it and one to the PS.

    There are a lot of interesting minor performances in the game. A lot to watch and notice. Including surprises like Pead. Britt and Cook, however, deserve to be dunce-capped and made to sit in the corner.

    #29842
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    aeneas1

    rhaney:

    against the chiefs rhaney started at right guard and then took over at center, here he is making another great screen block from the center position, i really don’t know how the rams can keep this guy on the bench once the season starts…

    and here he is, again from the center position, making a great second level block on the ilb that springs pead for a nice gainer:

    grob:

    robinson had a solid outing against kc, so did have for that matter… here’s grob saying hello to the chiefs 2014 first round pick, olb ford, clearly grob needs to work on his strength… 😯

    here’s grob flattening the defender on a run to the opposite side:

    and grob tossing his guy to the ground in pass pro:

    other:

    solid pass pro for foles on the pick, c’mon cook!

    another angle:

    pead making a great block on tavon’s scamper:

    pead’s touchdown run, so much went down on this play…

    1. cook, as usual, with a poor run block effort, pretty much just let his guy go by… but the funny thing is he inadvertently made a huge block that very well may have allowed pead to score. when he let his guy go by he pretty much just stood around, and turned back to watch the play unfold, then when a chief conveniently got within range, cooked knocked him to the ground, it was pretty funny, almost like cook thought the play was over but wanted to get a shot in… anyway i’ve highlighted it in the gifs below but they really don’t capture it as well as the actual footage, too many discarded frames…

    2. rhaney did a great job on the td run, stood up his guy and held his ground.

    3. reyonolds, at left guard, got blown back, launched, he was sent into orbit, not one of his finer moments.

    4. barnes made a nice cut block.

    5. havenstein had a second level assignment and also attempted a cut block. in fact i noticed the rams were doing a lot of cut blocking, or at least attempting it, last night, which i dig…

    #29851
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    Take a close look at the last part of the tavon run.
    Isn’t it a bit odd that the two chief defenders
    were able to catch up to tavon?
    Didnt look like they had the angle,
    but they caught him.

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    #29854
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    He was tired. zn jinxed him.

    zn also jinxed my seattle coffee cake.

    Agamemnon

    #29855
    PA Ram
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    Take a close look at the last part of the tavon run.
    Isn’t it a bit odd that the two chief defenders
    were able to catch up to tavon?
    Didnt look like they had the angle,
    but they caught him.

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    Why do you hate Tavon Austin?

    In any case–I think he just ran out of field. If he had more room he woulda took off. The field slowed him down.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29857
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    Take a close look at the last part of the tavon run.
    Isn’t it a bit odd that the two chief defenders
    were able to catch up to tavon?
    Didnt look like they had the angle,
    but they caught him.

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    v

    I think if you look at the play—which is here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/foles-to-austin-43-yards-eventually-other-highlights/ — those defenders gain an angle on him because they are running ahead of his path, closing to the sideline, while he is back in traffic slowing for a sec to clear defenders. Those Chiefs defenders cut off his beeline because they did have the angle to arrive where he is going to be, not because they caught him from behind.

    I am not sure I described that well, but it’s in the vid if you strategically pause it.

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    #29866
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    i think the oline will eventually be fine. we’ll see flashes. but it’s really gonna struggle at the beginning. feel bad for tre but hopefully they start coming around in the second half. i think this puts a big dent in their chances of a winning record. i hope i’m wrong.

    #29867
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    tavon also spent a lot of energy reversing field on that play. he may have started getting a little gassed at that point. the play says 40 yards but i wouldn’t be surprised if he ran closer to 70 yards.

    #29870
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    Rams43

    Finally got to watch the Chiefs game…

    I watched the OL play with particular attention. I believe that it is clearly the area with the most unknowns. I mean, I rewound each play multiple times to watch each OL player of interest.

    Here’s what I came away with…

    Once again, all 3 C candidates played “okay”. Of the 3, I thought Jones played best. He had one bad snap but otherwise looked pretty good. Rhaney was most athletic and might one day become a helluva starting OG.

    Wichmann has a future in this league but failed to blow me away in this particular game. He does look like promising depth and a possible future starter to me.

    Know which OL did impress me? Wait for it… Garrett Reynolds and Battle. I would go so far as to say Reynolds was our most effective OL player that night, both at LG and RT. very effective, indeed.

    Battle exceeded my expectations, frankly. Never missed an assignment. Heck, he neutralized his man all night long. He looked like a 1st round pick and has the look of a future starter written all over him. GRob and Hav better stay on their toes because by mid season I predict that Battle will be capable of giving each a good run for his money. Brilliant value pick for a ’16 fifth rounder. Snead should be arrested for grand theft.

    Cody Davis did some good things, but I saw him miss at least 2 tackles. Puzzling for such a good ST player, don’t you think?

    Hope Bradley Marquez can make it to the PS.

    Ditto Malcolm Brown.

    Mannion definitely took a step backwards in this game. But, hey, he IS a rookie.

    Hager seems to be EVERYWHERE. Looks like a nice 7th round value. Maybe even close to a steal there.

    I think our OL is gonna exceed expectations. Expectations are admittedly not high, but still… By games 5-6, I think our OL might be downright beastly, actually.

    We now look like a team that can and will run effective screens. THAT might slow down opponents edge rush, huh? And Foles is considered a fine play action QB, too.

    We’ve got some real hitters in our secondary these days. Hope Bryant can join them.

    If Givens hadn’t stepped up so much, I think Marquez was the favorite to replace him on the 53. Too bad for Marquez that Mannion had such a bad night.

    #29872
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    zn jinxed him.

    Yeah? Well watch what you say or I will have to jinx YOU.

    Wait. Dammit.

    I think I just jinxed my ability to do that.

    #29887
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    alyoshamucci]

    Coming into this I was really confused with what the boys were going to do, and while I feel good about what I would do, I don;t know how they feel about what THEY are going to do.

    NOTE: I AM DOING THIS BEFORE CUTS. I know they’re going on right now, but I’m not looking.

    I was pretty happy with a few things … not so happy about others.

    1) I think Barrett Jones claimed the job. I think I can see what his big issue is now, because I was not sure given the previous sample size. I think his issue is getting himself set after the snap. He got bulldozed again this game … but while before I thought it was strength, it doesn’t seem to be that now. I think if he’s late off the snap or the DT is early he gets beat. He can learn how to recover there IMO. When Wells got beat like that he wouldn’t even be out of his stance. Also, BJ’s screen game is the best of the OCs.

    2) Tavon seems to be seeing the field better. With a guy with his speed, any hesitation is what costs you the big play. Even if they know it’s coming they have a hard time with it.

    3) G Rob is much better in Pass Protection … his weak link actually seems to be in the running game.

    4) Battle showed a LOT of improvement in 4 games.

    5) Pead ran hard. Givens played fast. Both could be traded IMO .. or kept … just glad they are playing like professionals.

    6) Trinca Pasat played a LOT of snaps at full speed. Excited to see him with his role limited.

    7) Westbrooks finally made some noise inside. I knew he could do it, but watching him throw an OG was satisfying.

    8) Mo was playing faster, and Roberson had a couple good breakups.

    Side note: Chris Conley is a superior athlete.

    9) Regardless of what else happens on the line, Harkey can really block.

    10) The LBs were moving faster as a unit.

    11) That late WR kid, #15? He can play. Hope he makes the PS.

    12) Still like Wichmann.

    The Bad

    13) Guys who are trying to make a team that don’t wrap up. What?

    14) Forston ran out of moves. PS?

    15) Ifedi underwhelmed all PS.

    16) Mannion … dude you gotta pull the trigger faster or your WRs are gonna get killed. And Sean, that’s a really ugly deep ball. If it wasn’t for his draft status this game might have gotten him cut.

    17) Cookie you cannot tip that ball up in the air.

    18) Roberson, calm yourself when there’s tipped ball, it’s a gimme dude.

    The Ugly

    19) Brandon Washington hurts to watch. Every play he was involved in was like having a loose angry bull on the field .. slow, then randomly running into people and on the ground. Honestly … he could be blind.

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