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  • March 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm #40668
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    That pretty much say, “Goodbye, Fairley.”

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    March 16, 2016 at 2:55 pm #40669
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    March 16, 2016 at 2:59 pm #40670
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    2016 NFL Free Agency: Los Angeles Rams Sign DE Quinton Coples To Two-Year Deal

    http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/3/16/11247358/2016-nfl-free-agency-los-angeles-rams-sign-quinton-coples

    @3k_ on Mar 16, 2016, 1:37p 13

    The Rams have added the 16th overall pick from the 2012 NFL Draft to their defensive line.

    The Los Angeles Rams have signed former New York Jets and Miami Dolphins DE Quinton Coples on a two year deal:

    We looked briefly at the potential of the move on Monday when Coples’ visit with the team was reported.

    Now, though, we can lock in Coples as part of a four-man rotation at defensive end with Robert Quinn (who is coming off of back surgery), William Hayes and Eugene Sims (both of whom re-signed with the Rams recently – Hayes on a three-year deal, Sims for the same). The previous fourth member of the Rams’ DE rotation, Chris Long, was released in February with MLB James Laurinaitis and TE Jared Cook; he has since signed with the New England Patriots.

    It’s a move full of potential as a reclamation project. Coples never quite lived up to his draft billing with the Jets. Playing on the same line as Quinn and DT Aaron Donald could be what Coples needs to restart his NFL career with the Rams.

    Coples was a teammate of Quinn’s at North Carolina in 2008 and 2009

    (UPDATED at 2:48pm ET)

    Contract terms, per NFL Network’s Rand Getlin:

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    March 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm #40671
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    http://www.profootballrumors.com/rams-to-sign-quinton-coples/
    Rams To Sign Quinton Coples
    March 16th, 2016 at 1:51pm CST by Luke Adams

    1:51pm: It will be a two-year contract with a base value of $6.5MM for Coples, according to Rand Getlin of the NFL Network (Twitter link), who adds that the deal can max out at $9.75MM.

    1:37pm: The Rams are signing defensive end Quinton Coples, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com, who reports (via Twitter) that the two sides have agreed to terms on a two-year contract. Coples paid a visit to the Rams earlier this week, having previously met with the Panthers.Quinton Coples

    Coples, selected 16th overall in the 2012 draft, was cut by the Dolphins last month before his fifth-year option for the 2016 season became fully guaranteed. The veteran edge defender had previously spent most of his career with the Jets, before being claimed off waivers by Miami last fall.

    Coples had his best year as a pro in 2014, but even that amounted to just 35 tackles and 6.5 sacks, modest totals for a first-round pass rusher. When Todd Bowles took over as the Jets’ head coach a year ago, Coples was further marginalized in New York. Due to his poor fit in Bowles’ defense – and perhaps an alleged incident on a team flight, though Bowles denied that – the 25-year-old was waived by the club in November.

    A fresh start should benefit Coples, and the Rams look like a good fit for him. With Robert Quinn, William Hayes, Aaron Donald, and Michael Brockers penciled in as the starters up front, Los Angeles should have a formidable defensive line even if Coples doesn’t contribute much. The former first-round pick will likely be a better fit in the Rams’ 4-3 system than he was as a 3-4 outside linebacker, so we’ll see if he can muster a bounce-back season in 2016.

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    March 16, 2016 at 3:29 pm #40673
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    Rams sign DE Quinton Coples to replace Chris Long

    In Coples, Rams add former first-rounder who’s still only 25

    By NATE ATKINS

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/03/16/los-angeles-rams-sign-de-quinton-coples-to-replace-chris-long/a123he4/

    The Rams are trading out one former first-round defensive end for another. Los Angeles has agreed to a two-year contract with Quinton Coples, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday on Twitter.

    Coples, 25, was the 16th overall pick in the 2012 draft by the Jets. He started 30 games his first three years, totaling 16.5 sacks. The 6-foot-6, 284-pounder really fell off last year, starting just two of 10 games in New York before being traded to Miami, where he appeared in six games with no recorded stats. He finished 2015 with eight tackles and no sacks.

    The signing comes a few weeks after the Rams released former No. 2 overall pick Chris Long and one day after Long signed with the Patriots.

    The way we see it

    The Rams are going to try to motivate a career underachiever in Coples with a loaded defensive end group and a 4-3 system that’s going to play more naturally to his frame and abilities. If the money is cheap, this is a good call and could turn into another success story like Nick Fairley last season.

    The Rams are essentially trading out Chris Long for a much cheaper but still talented end, yet they still aren’t going to be reliant on his production with Robert Quinn and William Hayes locked in as starters.

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    ME:

    Well they went from 5 1st round picks on the DL to 3, with Fairley still out there and Chris Long gone. So they had to get it up to at least 4 (…so far).

    That kind of quip aside, I think it’s both a safe signing money-wise, and intriguing in terms of the possibilities.

    Wms. and Wauffle must believe they can light a fire under him … and why not? They’ve done it before with other players.

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    March 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm #40677
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    Well we know they aint drafting a DE early now.
    I guess.

    Seems like a good choice at this point,
    but I woulda liked a WR in free agency.
    Still hoping for one.

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    March 16, 2016 at 3:51 pm #40678
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    wv wrote:

    I woulda liked a WR in free agency.

    I think the thing is, they know they can take advantage of bargains on defense to fill holes. I will also toss in the Barron trade in this bin, though mostly he fits this just by virtue of being a reclamation project.

    That would mean they’ve reclamationatized Barron, Fairley, Hayes, and Ayers, and believe they can do it with Sensabaugh and Coples (which btw was also the name of my favorite cop buddy show from the 70s).

    I don’t think they think they can find affordable WRs out there to “reclaim.” I think WR is a much more iffy and expensive market.

    They have, however, made a couple of runs at FA TEs.

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    March 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm #40679
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    The draft lays so that DT, WR, and QB look good to me. I figure on getting them with the first 3 picks. Nothing has changed for me. Unless I can get Smith in the 2cd and red shirt him.

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    March 16, 2016 at 5:13 pm #40680
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    The draft lays so that DT, WR, and QB look good to me.

    Yeah that looks about right.

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    LA Rams Sign DE Quinton Coples To 2 Yr Deal

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/la/los-angeles-rams

    The Los Angeles Rams are adding more depth on the defensive line as they have an agreement with DE Quinton Coples on a two-year deal, a source said Wednesday. Coples will get chance to fit in Rams’ base 4-3 defense as an end after spending most of his first four years as a standup linebacker in a 3-4. The former first-round pick has 16.5 sacks in his NFL career.

    March 16, 2016 at 6:35 pm #40683
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    a negative view, from off the net

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    Cut from Jets, Dolphins didn’t want him. Go watch the film. I just did. Saw every sack in his career. He’s good when unblocked. He tries a spin move, so-so

    He played 4 positions, mostly LDE and RDE in sub packages. Stood up as LOLB a few times. Played some right defensive tackle against Miami.

    If you can go to NFL Replay, search his name and “sack” you can see that sack stats do not matter. You’re just looking at stat sheet, which means little.

    He had height, long arms and can run straight ahead, but he bull rushes and spins off of that, mostly. No outside speed to do what Rams do. I bet he takes Fairley’s place in rotation and in nickle, will play DT with Hayes, Donald, and Quinn. Will spell LDE some, but no chance he spells Quinn or Sims at RDE, unless they are hurt.

    He’s not very good, and 2 teams can attest to that. He’s a reclamation project. Maybe it works, maybe not. 2 teams didn’t want him. I am saying he needs to get a LOT better because if you watch him play you will know why he got cut and why Dolphins didn’t want him either.

    It’s a prove-it deal, so I a not saying it’s a bad signing, I am saying he does not hold a candle to a healthy Long. You cannot just look at a stat sheet and compare them. Long’s deal was he was too highly paid for being hurt last two years. I had no problems letting him go

    March 16, 2016 at 7:03 pm #40685
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    yeah. dt, wr, qb. they should be able to find one of each with the first three picks.

    i’d also look at tight end although this year’s class isn’t the strongest at that position.

    March 16, 2016 at 7:12 pm #40686
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    We are not just looking for a TE, we are trying to replace Cook. 😉

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    March 16, 2016 at 7:47 pm #40690
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    Quinn, Donald, Brocker, Hayes, and Sims(the guy you would pick to walk down a dark alley.). Now think, the power of peer pressure. 😉

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    March 16, 2016 at 7:47 pm #40691
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    Have we all forgotten that after all this time we’ve yet to find a replacement for Massey. Come on people. Where are we going to get that position filled in the draft?

    March 16, 2016 at 8:12 pm #40694
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    We are not just looking for a TE, we are trying to replace Cook.

    all joking aside having a rich man’s jared cook would be huge for this offense.

    ha!

    then again. having a great wr would do wonders too. just sucks that this draft is weak at both positions.

    March 16, 2016 at 8:22 pm #40695
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    Hram wrote:

    Have we all forgotten that after all this time we’ve yet to find a replacement for Massey. Come on people. Where are we going to get that position filled in the draft?

    This is a quandary, since, as you know, it is very difficult to trade up above the 1st pick of the 1st round. Not impossible of course, just difficult. And yet where else are they going to find someone worthy of the position and its history.

    March 16, 2016 at 8:23 pm #40696
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    InvaderRam wrote:
    Agamemnon wrote:

    We are not just looking for a TE, we are trying to replace Cook.

    all joking aside having a rich man’s jared cook would be huge for this offense.

    ha!

    then again. having a great wr would do wonders too. just sucks that this draft is weak at both positions.

    It isn’t really weak at WR. It is just that their are no franchise type players. Both Treadwell and Doctson are good value at #15 and Boyd and a number of others would be fine in the 2cd or 3rd round. imo

    I have seen mocks with as many as 3-5 WRs in the 1st round.

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    March 16, 2016 at 8:26 pm #40697
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    i don’t think they’re good value at #15. that’s the problem for me. if they don’t go dt, they should trade down and pick a wr.

    March 16, 2016 at 8:26 pm #40698
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    zn wrote:
    Hram wrote:

    Have we all forgotten that after all this time we’ve yet to find a replacement for Massey. Come on people. Where are we going to get that position filled in the draft?

    This is a quandary, since, as you know, it is very difficult to trade up above the 1st pick of the 1st round. Not impossible of course, just difficult. And yet where else are they going to find someone worthy of the position and its history.

    So you’re saying there is a chance…

    March 16, 2016 at 8:28 pm #40700
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    i don’t think they’re good value at #15. that’s the problem for me. if they don’t go dt, they should trade down and pick a wr.

    You can get a number 1 DT in the second. I doubt all 10 or 11 of them will be gone before we pick. And again, there are no franchise type DTs, there are just a bunch of really ones. imo

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    March 16, 2016 at 8:33 pm #40701
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    March 16, 2016 at 8:50 pm #40702
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    at this point i’m thinking i prefer doctson over treadwell.

    March 16, 2016 at 8:57 pm #40703
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    at this point i’m thinking i prefer doctson over treadwell.

    A lot of people do, including me. But, I think it is close and if I take Treadwell first, there is some chance that Doctson might be there in the second.

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    March 16, 2016 at 9:10 pm #40704
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    It’s on Todd Bowles to unlock Quinton Coples’ first-round hype

    July 10, 2015

    http://nypost.com/2015/07/10/its-on-todd-bowles-to-unlock-quinton-coples-first-round-hype/

    Position: Outside linebacker

    Age: 25

    How acquired: Selected in the first round of the 2012 Draft

    Years left on contract: 2

    2015 Salary Cap figure: $2.8 million

    Looking back at 2014: If Coples was not a first-round pick, you would look at his 2014 season and say he played OK. Problem for Coples is he is a first-round pick and he has failed to live up to the expectations that come with that.

    He had another up-and-down season, playing pretty well at times and then disappearing for long stretches. He finished with 35 tackles, a career-high 6 ½ sacks and one forced fumble.

    The Jets moved Coples to outside linebacker two years ago after drafting Sheldon Richardson, and Coples still does not look comfortable in the position. I thought he played his best last year when Muhammad Wilkerson was injured and he had to slide to defensive end, his natural position. But with Leonard Williams now added to an already deep defensive line, forget Coples moving back.

    Pro Football Focus ranked Coples 40th out of 46 outside linebackers by their grading. He had 21 quarterback hurries to go along with the sacks.

    Coples is not good at coverage, and the Jets hardly asked him to do it at all last season. He rushed the passer on most plays.

    One thing Coples is very good at is tackling. He ranked first in tackling efficiency at outside linebacker, according to PFF. That is a measure of how many tackles a players makes versus misses. Coples rarely lets a running back get away, and he has been known to deliver some bone-crunching hits in the backfield.

    Outlook for 2015: Of all the players on defense, I think Coples could benefit the most from the arrival of Todd Bowles. The new Jets coach is known for playing to his players’ strengths. If Bowles can figure out ways to get Coples inside more and design some blitzes for him, he could have a big year.

    This is a crucial season for Coples. The Jets exercised his fifth-year option for 2016, but that money is only guaranteed for injury, meaning the Jets could release him after this season if they don’t like what they see. Coples probably will show enough to stick around, but if he is thinking about that second NFL contract, it’s time to stop talking potential and start talking production.

    March 16, 2016 at 9:49 pm #40706
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    July 10, 2015

    This is a crucial season for Coples. The Jets exercised his fifth-year option for 2016, but that money is only guaranteed for injury, meaning the Jets could release him after this season if they don’t like what they see. Coples probably will show enough to stick around, but if he is thinking about that second NFL contract, it’s time to stop talking potential and start talking production.

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    from a different source:

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    After the Jets cut Coples, coach Todd Bowles explained that he was too slow to play outside linebacker in the Jets’ 3-4 defense. Bowles said Coples is a better fit as a defensive linemen, but the Jets have plenty of those already.

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/11/jets_quinton_coples_plane_player.htm

    March 17, 2016 at 1:50 pm #40737
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    zn wrote:
    Hram wrote:

    Have we all forgotten that after all this time we’ve yet to find a replacement for Massey. Come on people. Where are we going to get that position filled in the draft?

    This is a quandary, since, as you know, it is very difficult to trade up above the 1st pick of the 1st round. Not impossible of course, just difficult. And yet where else are they going to find someone worthy of the position and its history.

    I have put all my moral and ethical objections aside and have decided it’s time to start cloning Massey. And turn the cloning machine up to 11 so he will be fully grown by the time training camp opens.

    March 25, 2016 at 3:59 pm #41051
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    Breaking down Quinton Coples’ contract with Rams

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/27794/breaking-down-quinton-coples-contract-with-rams

    BOCA RATON, Fla. — The Los Angeles Rams surprised some by jumping out last week to sign defensive end Quinton Coples to a two-year contract.

    Not that the Rams couldn’t use the depth but they had already re-signed ends William Hayes and Eugene Sims. The Rams went ahead and added to their group by bringing the former first-round pick on board with a deal that guarantees just $750,000. The deal is also voidable after one year if Coples meets certain requirements.

    Here’s a breakdown of Coples’ contract with all numbers courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information:

    2016

    Base salary: $1.75 million

    Roster bonus: $1.25 million ($750,000 is fully guaranteed and paid on 10th day of league year. The other $500,000 is payable in increments of $31,250 per game on the 46-man active roster)

    Cap charge: $3 million

    Cash: $3 million

    2017

    Base salary: $3.25 million

    Roster bonus: $250,000

    Cap charge: $3.5 million

    Cash: $3.5 million

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