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  • #129399
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    I harken back to, just days before the Stafford trade, when I asked McVay about the many factors limiting them in the deeper passing game…and he said that is “not the world he wants to live in”. Add his prior experience w Jackson and it feels like a total McVay pick.

    Les Snead: “Coming into this offseason, we really wanted to add speed to our WR corps. By some of our measurements, Tutu is of the fastest – if not THE fastest – player in the draft…fast right now, and fast the longer the play goes.”

    (sounds like the GPS data was back!)

    Johnny Hekker gets his return man. Can see Atwell working into situational stuff downfield, lots of gadget stuff and those McVay motions and sweeps, and back at returner.

    New Rams WR Tutu Atwell had a lot of calls with the Rams, especially receiver coach Eric Yarber, who he says told him “don’t be surprised if we don’t let you fall out of the second round.”

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    New Rams WR Tutu Atwell on his small stature: “I just come with a chip on my shoulder at all times, no matter what the situation is. I’m a go-getter.”

    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Tutu Atwell: “I just need the ball in my hands, and I’ll show you everything else.”

    Brian Baldinger@BaldyNFL
    @c5_atwell is straight “GAS” short passes long runs. Very dependable hands with great production Add some PR duties #BaldysBreakdowns

    #129401
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    Atwell, are you a cheetah?

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    #129402
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    So the term “gadget” is not one that warms my heart in the second round. He better offer more than that. Gadget guys work, like, four times in their short careers.

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    Tavon was about 180, btw.

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    #129421
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    Deadpool

    Tutu Atwell

    – this felt like a forced pick, I think (I have no inside info) they wanted Eskridge, and the Seahawks once again sniped the Rams. That said, Atwell IMO was a reach. He is not actually a deep threat. He is an explosive threat with his ball in his hands, but is once he has the ball in his hands. Screens, jet sweeps, rub routes. Basically manufactured touches. Any kind of contact and he is off his feet. Thats in a route or after the catch. He is not going to out physical anyone. He has a small catch radius and his route tree was extremely limited and he is not a nuanced route runner to say the least. But if McVay wants explosives, he can manufacture them. I would have preferred Dyami Brown, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Jaelon Darden, Seth Williams or oh my goodness Terrance Marshall, a guy that wins deep, wins contested balls and has plenty of field stretching. As others have noted, this feels like Trung, where McVay is pushing this explosives idea into his draft. And he’s at best a 5th option this year. Humphrey beats every OC on the roster. So does Meinerz. Missed opportunity IMO

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    Despite losing many defenders, Rams start NFL draft by picking a receiver

    GARY KLEIN

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2021-04-30/rams-first-pick-nfl-draft-louisville-receiver-tutu-atwell-round-2

    The Rams lost five players and a coordinator from a defense that ranked among the NFL’s best in 2020.

    But on Friday, they used their first pick in the NFL draft to add to coach Sean McVay’s offense.

    The Rams selected speedy Louisville receiver Tutu Atwell in the second round with the 57th pick and then traded the 88th pick to the San Francisco 49ers for the 117th and 121st picks in Saturday’s fourth round. The Rams chose South Carolina inside linebacker Ernest Jones in the third round with the 103rd pick.

    Barring more trades, the Rams’ have five remaining picks, including Nos. 117, 121 and 141 in the fourth round, 209 in the sixth and 252 in the seventh.

    The Rams went into the draft having made two major offseason moves to improve an offense that slipped the last two seasons.

    They traded quarterback Jared Goff and two first-round picks to Detroit for quarterback Matthew Stafford. And they signed veteran receiver DeSean Jackson to give Stafford a deep threat.

    Now Stafford has another potential one in Atwell, “a big-time gift,” McVay said, for an offense that includes receivers Jackson, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and Van Jefferson, a second-round pick in 2020.

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    “The more weapons you can surround yourself with offensively, especially around a player like Matthew Stafford, that’s very important to us,” McVay said.

    McVay said that Jackson was “one of the all-time deep threats.” He said the 5-foot-9, 155-pound Atwell had some similarities, in his ability to stretch the defense.

    “I see a player that plays a lot bigger than,” his physical size, McVay said.

    Rams general manager Les Snead conducted the draft from his home because he tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday. He said Atwell had “this rare, unique ability to explode off the ball and keep running fast the longer the down went.”

    Atwell played quarterback in high school in Miami. But he moved to receiver at Louisville and scored 21 touchdowns in three seasons.

    In 2019, he led the Atlantic Coast Conference with 1,276 yards receiving and 12 touchdowns, and he caught four passes that resulted in gains of 70 yards or more.

    Last season, Atwell caught 46 passes for 625 yards and seven touchdowns in nine games.

    Atwell said during a videoconference with reporters that Rams receiver coach Eric Yarber told him, “Don’t be surprised if I don’t let you go past the second round.”

    Atwell was happy the Rams followed through.

    “Coach told me I would be a good fit for their offense and how they’re going to be able to use me, so I wasn’t surprised,” Atwell said. “Coach kept his word and I appreciate that.”

    Though he has a small frame, Atwell said he overcomes that with skill and attitude.
    “I just come with a chip on my shoulder at all times no matter what the situation is,” he said. “And I’m a go-getter.”

    How McVay deploys Atwell remains to be seen. In 2017, McVay used Tavon Austin almost exclusively as a decoy. Austin was traded the following offseason.

    Atwell sounded confident that he can contribute.

    “I’m a great receiver,” he said, “and when the ball’s in my hands I know what to do with it. The thing is I just need the ball in my hands, and I’ll show you everything else.”

    Peyton Manning was a role model when Atwell played quarterback, but he said he began to emulate NFL receivers when he switched positions.

    “When I started getting into the receiver thing, I started watching the fast receivers and who I could be like,” he said.
    He is looking forward to playing with Jackson, one of the league’s premiere deep threats.

    “It will be awesome to pretty much play beside him and everything like that,” Atwell said.

    #129424
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    from https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2021-04-30/rams-first-pick-nfl-draft-louisville-receiver-tutu-atwell-round-2

    TUTU ATWELL, wide receiver

    5 feet 9, 155 pounds, Louisville, Round 2, Pick 57

    Notable: Atwell played quarterback in high school in Florida. His father, Tutu Atwell Sr., played wide receiver at the University of Minnesota.

    Last season: Atwell caught 46 passes for 625 yards and seven touchdowns in nine games. He averaged 13.6 yards per catch.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are aiming to surround new quarterback Matthew Stafford with as many weapons as possible. The speedy Atwell joins a receiving corps that includes veterans Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and DeSean Jackson and second-year pro Van Jefferson, a second-round pick last season. Atwell also could be valuable for new special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis if he can improve as a kick returner.

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    Rams stay at No. 57, pick WR Tutu Atwell from Louisville on Day 2

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/2556778/2021/04/30/rams-stay-at-no-57-pick-wr-tutu-atwell-from-louisville-on-day-2/#:~:text=Oklahoma-,Rams%20stay%20at%20No.%2057%2C%20pick%20WR%20Tutu%20Atwell,from%20Louisville%20on%20Day%202&text=When%20they%20traded%20for%20quarterback,deep%20ball%20%E2%80%94%20would%20be%20fixed.

    When they traded for quarterback Matthew Stafford in January, the Rams made it clear that some of the things they weren’t able to do with their offense in 2020 — like throwing the deep ball — would be fixed.

    Enter Tutu Atwell, the light-framed, lightning-fast wide receiver out of Louisville, for whom the Rams stood pat at No. 57, their first pick of this year’s draft Friday.

    Atwell was a bit of a surprise move for the Rams’ first pick because centers Creed Humphrey and Quinn Meinerz were both available at the time (perhaps hinting that the Rams would seek Stanford’s Drew Dalman with a later pick), as well as a bevy of cornerbacks. But NFL Network said that Rams coach Sean McVay referred to Atwell as “DeSean Jackson Jr.” (the Rams also signed Jackson this spring on a one-year, incentive-heavy deal), and there’s no denying the bond McVay shared with a younger, similarly skilled Jackson during his Washington days. In fact, Jackson’s presence on the roster won’t preclude Atwell from being worked into the rotation, as Atwell is versatile enough to align from a variety of places (including from the backfield on sweeps and reverses) and will certainly compete at punt and kickoff return.

    In recent days, McVay repeatedly has cited Stafford’s ability to activate all of his eligible wide receivers by the way he operates inside and outside of the pocket. The Rams also finished 29th in the NFL in passes of 15-plus air yards, and Jared Goff was 27th in completion rate on those same throws. Turnover issues that kept popping up and a lack of a true “deep threat” didn’t help the Rams’ cause. The offense moved toward higher-probability, shorter-yardage plays that should have made it easier to take care of the ball and help the offensive line not have to pass-protect as long as teams brought more creative blitz packages against Goff, who struggled against that pressure.

    There will be some questions as to whether this pick could have been made either at a later point or via a trade back. General manager Les Snead has been open about his desire to trade at least one of his Day 2 picks.

    Big Board ranking: Atwell was No. 95 on Dane Brugler’s list of the top 300 prospects.

    Introduction: “Atwell has sudden feet and playmaking speed to separate before and after the catch, racing by coverage to consistently take the top off the defense,” Dane Brugler said. “However, he is a small target with obvious play-strength limitations and durability concerns. Overall, Atwell has a skill set very similar to Marquise Brown: vastly undersized with more drops than ideal, but his speed stresses every level of the defense. He projects as a home-run-hitting option outside or in the slot.”

    How he fits: Atwell could see more time than initially expected if Jackson’s injury issues pop up. Atwell probably will be used for situational reps when aligned as a wide receiver and also run a variety of gadget plays out of the backfield. McVay likely will use him on a lot of pre and at-snap motions to stretch a defense widely, and of course, the Rams hope he can stretch a defense horizontally.

    Second guess: We can’t second-guess Atwell’s speed (he ran a 4.32-second 40-yard dash), but his 5-foot-9, 155-pound frame is a bit worrisome.

    Rookie impact: Situational snaps at wide receiver (or plays in case of injury to Jackson), punt and kick return specialist.

    Depth chart impact: WR4(b)

    Fast evaluation: Clearly the Rams had Atwell ranked higher on their board than analysts did. His speed and the emotional connection of reminding McVay of the success he had with Jackson probably were big influences. I’d like to actually see him get some snaps as a rookie.

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    #129462
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    Chad Johnson endorsement pretty much guarantees bust status. 155 lbs? I’ll give him a couple months before he’s hurt.

    #129500
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    From OURLADS

    Junior entry, two-year starter, Miami, FL. A former high school quarterback earned All ACC honors both years. The 2019 conference and receiving yards leader is also a program single season record holder in both categories. Has the kind of speed that can change the game for an offense. He is in a rare tier of explosive playmakers that brings that superior burst and acceleration to the field as route runner and playmaker post-catch. A weapon that can knife through the top of a secondary, stretch the defense, and open things up for players around him. The lack of size and playing strength will cap the impact he can make individually, but if he is paired with a successful deep passer and there are other complementary weapons around him, he is the kind of playmaker that can bring an offense to another level. Top shelf explosive speed. Elite downfield burst that will match his elite timed speed. Shows plus-hands that will attack the ball away from his body. Extends himself in traffic. Easy turns and cuts as a route runner, has the joystick movement capabilities while moving at a high rate of speed. Not just a straight-line athlete. Will create space and separation consistently. Shows different gears as he works deeper into his route progressions. Shows an easy and smooth transition from catch to run. Lacks the desired size and playing strength. Will always be working with a limited catch radius and simply won’t get to balls outside of the limited window. Doesn’t play strong through contact, gets altered and thrown off his line. Strength is an issue. Fourth/Fifth round.

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    #129502
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    * https://www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/?p=1763
    From Drew Boylhart

    Chatarius (TuTu) Atwell WR/ST Louisville
    by Drew Boylhart • March 15, 2021
    STRENGTHS
    TuTu is a speed receiver with the quickness to separate from any defensive player on the field you put up against him. He shows excellent hands to catch the deep ball and as far as being able to catch contested passes forgetaboutit, because his ability to separate doesn’t allow for any defensive back to stay with him to contest a pass. TuTu can play inside receiver or outside, as a receiver. He is smart and shows the ability to get open when the play breaks down, and when that happens big plays are bound to follow. In the middle of the field, TuTu is a threat on every pass play (no matter the down and distance) to score a touchdown or make big yardage on those third and long downs. TuTu can be a weapon but like most weapons, if they are not able to be used or get broken then they will not be effective.

    CONCERNS
    TuTu size and lack of bulk makes him an easy to be a target for defensive backs to punish him on every route and every tackle and that means TuTu might not be available to impact. The other side to that argument is that he is so fast and quick and it’s hard for an opponent to get their hands on him to punish him and be physical with him, at least they weren’t able to at the college level.

    BOTTOM LINE 2.64
    You would like to use TuTu’s speed and quickness on special teams but the truth is, seeing a 230lbs special teams’ player, going down the field like a mad man, making a hit on this kid at full force, scares the crap out of me and makes me think that we might never see him on a football field ever again. I’m not suggesting TuTu is frail, on contrary, he’s a tough kid and a smart kid and knows how to keep away from getting hit. He is not afraid to go over the middle or make the tough catch to move the chains but the fact of the matter is, that’s not the smart way to use him. To use him on the return units on special teams is not smart either. You use him the outside so that he can use the sidelines to his advantage keeping him away from the big hits and using his speed to keep the defense-wide and making a safety have to help over the top. That opens up the middle of the field because anytime TuTu gets his hands on the ball, he can take it to the house. Think of him as a Don Beebe, John Brown, Ted Ginn type of impact player whose impact is in the potential to score on any play, making defenses game plan for him and not so much in the stats at the end of the game. Although if you have a strong-arm QB, who can throw the ball to him on those exciting deep passes, then maybe, just maybe, if he stays healthy, the stats will follow.

    #129503
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    From my partner, who rarely watches football.

    She said that she Tutu is so small that she “can take him down.”

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    #129550
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    From OURLADS
    … but if he is paired with a successful deep passer and there are other complementary weapons around him, he is the kind of playmaker that can bring an offense to another level….

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    Obviously, this is the hope.

    They are gambling, they can build an OLine
    without a premium OL pick.

    We shall see.

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    #129551
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    I don’t believe not picking an oline prospect hurt then this year as the Rams have some decent depth. It could hurt them in two to three years since they won’t be developing a new pick. But there are so many ways to build an Oline.

    When they figure out who is going to play center, if that person is decent, they will be in good shape.

    After this year when several contracts expire, they’ll have to extend or acquire a few.

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    15. TUTU ATWELL | Louisville 5087 | 155 lbs. | JR. Miami, Fla. (Northwestern) 10/7/1999 (age 21.56)

    BACKGROUND: Chatarius “Tutu” Atwell Jr. grew up in the Liberty City neighborhood of Miami and started playing football at four years old. He attended Northwestern High School and was a four-year starting quarterback, earning Honorable Mention All-County honors as a freshman and sophomore. After capturing a
    district title in 2016, Atwell as a senior led Northwestern to the 2017 Class 6A state championship, the school’s first state title since 2007. He earned Miami-Dade County Player of the Year as a senior and finished his prep career with more than 4,000 passing yards and 1,500 rushing yards. Atwell was also a member of the Northwestern track team, setting personal bests in the 100 meters (10.84) and 200 meters (22.21).

    A three-star recruit out of high school, Atwell was the No. 57 athlete in the 2018 class and the No. 110 recruit in the state of Florida. He received more than a dozen scholarship offers, but only two came from Power-5 programs (Illinois and Louisville). He followed in the footsteps of Teddy Bridgewater, another former Miami Northwestern quarterback, and signed with the Cardinals, although Atwell did so with the expectation that he would move to wide receiver. His father (Tutu) played wide receiver at Minnesota (1994-97) and set the school record for catches, spending time in a few NFL camps after going undrafted. Atwell elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2021 NFL Draft.

    YEAR (GP/GS) REC YDS AVG TD NOTES
    2018: (12/2) 24 406 16.9 2
    2019: (13/11) 70 1,276 18.2 12 First Team All-ACC; Led ACC in receiving; Single-season school record for receiving yards
    2020: (9/6) 46 625 13.6 7 Second Team All-ACC; Led team in receptions, receiving TDs; Rush TD; Missed two games due to injury
    Total: (34/19) 140 2,307 16.5 21

    HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
    COMBINE N/A (Combine canceled)

    PRO DAY 5087 155 29 1/4 8 7/8 69 3/4 4.35 2.60 1.49 33 9’9” 4.09 6.87 – (no bench – choice)

    STRENGTHS: Runs like the wind with top-end speed that looks different than everyone else on the field…dangerous vertical threat with his ability to consistently win over the top…shows one-step burst to quickly release or separate in his route breaks…effective with his double-moves…tracks the ball well over his shoulder, slowing or accelerating as needed…big-play threat with the ball in his hands (only Alabama’s DeVonta Smith had more yards after catch in 2019)…destroys pursuit angles as a ball carrier, shifting gears and running circles around defenders…accounted for nine receptions of 50-plus yards in his career…scored a touchdown every 6.6 times he touched the football in college…led team in receptions the last two seasons.

    WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized…minimal body power and doesn’t have tackle-breaking bulk/strength…allows defenders to alter his route path by their presence or minimal contact…too many traps and body catches and too many of his targets hit the ground (15 drops over the last three seasons)…still a novice route
    runner…needs to flatten his routes and play with better discipline out of his breaks…hears footsteps when working the middle of the field…his desire to avoid contact as a ball carrier leads to too much east-west runs…responsible for five fumbles in college…half-hearted blocker with below average functional strength in this area…limited experience as a return man (only four punt returns in college)…lack of size leads to durability concerns — missed two games and parts of others due to a L5 S1 stress reaction fracture in his back (October 2020).

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Louisville, Atwell lined up primarily in the slot in head coach Scott Satterfield’s offense, feasting on crossers, verticals and quick throws (jet sweeps, screens, etc.). A high school quarterback, he transitioned to receiver full-time for the Cardinals and finished his career No. 8 in school history in receiving yards (2,307) and tied for No. 5 in touchdown grabs (21). Atwell has sudden feet and playmaking speed to separate before and after the catch, racing by coverage to consistently take the top off the defense. However, he is a small target with obvious play strength limitations and durability concerns. Overall, Atwell has a skill set very similar to Marquise Brown: vastly undersized with more drops than ideal, but his speed stresses every level of the defense. He projects as a homerun hitting option outside or in the slot.

    GRADE: 3rd Round (No. 95 overall)

    #129738
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    What set Tutu Atwell apart from wide receiver draft classmates with similar skillset for the Rams

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/what-set-tutu-atwell-apart-wide-receiver-draft-classmates-similar-skillset

    A few hours after the Rams selected Louisville wide receiver Tutu Atwell in the second round of the 2021 NFL Draft, general manager Les Snead said the team had identified Atwell and “and a few other receivers” who had the “rare, unique ability to explode off the ball and keep running fast the longer the down went” – In other words, players who fit the mold of the speedy, deep-threat wide receiver Snead and Rams head coach Sean McVay had been asked about acquiring this offseason to help create more explosive plays on offense.

    Los Angeles seemingly already address the perceived need by signing DeSean Jackson. However, Snead said that “whether you have DeSean or not, you better attack while you can because it might be a couple drafts before you get a few of those guys, like Atwell.

    So what made Atwell so valuable to the Rams? Area scout Billy Johnson (Southeast, Western), manager of football analytics Sarah Bailey, wide receivers coach Eric Yarber and director of scouting strategy James Gladstone offer insight below.

    Inside the Draft: Selecting WR Tutu Atwell | Ep. 2
    Measuring speed

    Color-coded data collected by the Rams’ analytics team paints a good picture of receivers who fit the aforementioned criteria for the Rams.

    “We have a little bit new data this year, so it’s hard to compare year over year,” Bailey told theRams.com. “I don’t know the number off-hand, (but) I do know that in terms of color-coding things, you see a lot of bright colors, which means faster. There seems to be a lot of fast receivers, which is not too surprising, in my opinion. Just based on the way college games are played and the way they stretch the field, you do see faster speeds in general and it has been evolving even moreso.”

    Speed values can come from various sources, according to Bailey, such as through scouts and coaches grading a prospect’s speed in play by a visual eye test, actual data received from prospects’ pro days, or some film data to get a complete view of a prospect beyond traditional measurements.

    However, not all of those values are the same and translate to from college to the NFL. The context of those values also matters.

    “So for us, it was interesting to be able to see all of those different thresholds, and then it comes to a matter of, ‘Okay, well, which of those speed variables are actually important, and which matter at the next level?'” Bailey said. “Because you can have 30 guys run 19 miles per hour, but does that matter? What type of play was it? And breaking it down so that you can really figure out and differentiate between who is fast, and then who’s fast, fast in certain situations. So that’s really fun to do, and just looking at, who uses their speed to create separation, and how does that separation equate to their completions? So really taking it to the next level, but keeping in mind that it’s speed at the at the basis that’s helping to influence those next steps.”

    One way to understand that context is GPS trackers, which colleges have been using during practices and games to record data such as player speed, player distances by speed, acceleration, deceleration, directional changes, orientation changes and explosive moments. It creates a more holistic view compared to traditional drills like the 40-yard dash, which effectively measures straight-line speed and acceleration and may not accurately reflect how a player uses it in a game-like setting.

    A prospect’s 40-time may confirm how fast a scout or coach believes that player plays from the eye test, but the number of variables from GPS data helps provide more thorough confirmation.

    According to Johnson, the Rams’ analytics team dubbed Atwell the fastest player in college football this year based on GPS data and how they track players.

    “The way he outruns angles, and the way he covers ground, I mean it stands out,” Johnson told theRams.com. “I really think he’s one of the fastest guys I covered. This year we had (Alabama wide receiver) Jaylen Waddle and guys like that, but he was very comparable. Sometimes you think you’re fast-forwarding the film because he’s running that fast. It was pretty evident when you turned (the tape) on that he plays at a different speed than most.”

    #129739
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    I don’t believe not picking an oline prospect hurt then this year as the Rams have some decent depth.

    I’m skeptical. “Decent depth” is…decent.
    But is this Oline good enough to stand up to a run of Playoff defenses?
    Havenstein? The 40 year-old LT ?

    I know, they know a lot more than i do, but…I’m skeptical.

    It would not surprise me to see that tiny-tutu make some
    big plays early in the year, and the OLine look good early in the year,
    but its a long season. And I have a feeling they are gonna be
    scrambling for Oline help.

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    I don’t believe not picking an oline prospect hurt then this year as the Rams have some decent depth.

    I’m skeptical. “Decent depth” is…decent.
    But is this Oline good enough to stand up to a run of Playoff defenses?
    Havenstein? The 40 year-old LT ?

    I know, they know a lot more than i do, but…I’m skeptical.

    It would not surprise me to see that tiny-tutu make some
    big plays early in the year, and the OLine look good early in the year,
    but its a long season. And I have a feeling they are gonna be
    scrambling for Oline help.

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    The way I see it, the problem is not 2021. It’s 2022. IMO not picking linemen for 2022 was a mistake.

    In 2022, 5 different Rams linemen are either unrestricted or restricted free agents. The includes Corbett and Noteboom. At the same time Whitworth will be 41. That means 2 positions are going to be at issue–center and left tackle.

    I also don’t believe Noteboom is the answer at LOT and I don’t believe there is anyone behind Corbett.

    Plus LOT is one of the hardest positions to find. The “hit” rate on college tackles taken after round 1 that become solid starting LOTs is around 5%. LOTs rarely get to free agency (Rams got lucky with Whitworth) and when they do they’re expensive. Trades are expensive too. So finding a left OT while also either paying Corbett to stay at center or finding a new center? That is a lot to ask.

    Yeah they have depth–at guard and ROT. Not at center and LOT.

    This was the year to take linemen. 2022 will be a year too late. At that point your talking about the possibility of starting rookies.

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