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August 6, 2024 at 1:15 pm #151619znModeratorNFL Network, Sunday 8/11, 1:30 PM pt 4:30 PM etAugust 8, 2024 at 11:01 pm #151643znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsRams 2024 preseason TV crew on ABC7: Former Rams great and Super Bowl LVI Champion Andrew Whitworth, ESPN’s Mina Kimes will join Andrew Siciliano in the booth, with ABC7 sports reporter Curt Sandoval providing insight from the sidelines.August 10, 2024 at 10:37 am #151653znModeratorLA Football Network@LAFBNetworkGet ready for the Stetson Bennett show! The Rams are giving their sophomore QB a TON of reps in the first preseason game.August 10, 2024 at 12:50 pm #151656wvParticipant
Mina Kimes. She’s Seattle’s version of Jourdan Rodrigue. Really does her homework. ENJOYS doing her homework. Two of the best ‘ever’ imho.
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August 11, 2024 at 5:03 pm #151663znModeratorI’ve got it on now.
August 11, 2024 at 5:27 pm #151664Eternal RamnationParticipantLimmer playing well at C especially his run blocking but pass pro has been good as well. I think he’s a steal lucky to get him where we did.
August 11, 2024 at 5:48 pm #151665znModeratorLimmer playing well at C especially his run blocking but pass pro has been good as well. I think he’s a steal lucky to get him where we did.
Agree.
This is a preliminary but, IMO it looks like we can expect things from guys, either as starters or as good depth, like Verse, Fiske, Corum, Kinchens, Davis, Whittingon, Karty, and Limmer.
August 11, 2024 at 5:55 pm #151666ZooeyModeratorKarty has now outscored all the 2023 Rams PK combined in just one preseason game.
August 11, 2024 at 6:17 pm #151667znModeratorNotes
Scott is good, they coach him in this system to run in much the same manner as Wms. (patience, sudden burst). Evans is okay, but is not as good as Scott.
The OL for the 2s (going against Dallas 2s) held up. It didn’t look like the confused mess we heard about in the Chargers practice. Tight, decent play.
Bennett juuuuusst missed a TD pass Stafford would’ve nailed. He also lofted one into traffic, almost an INT, but that looked like a “not on the same page” throw. He had an INT I didn’t see and then another one in the redzone I did see, which was just a dumb bad throw. He can complete fairly tight ones over defenders. They mostly rolled him out btw.
Pass rush keeps getting there but it’s 2s against 2s. The rookie NT Davis stood out.
Man the 2024 draft is full of players. A higher percentage than 2023, looks like. It looks like we can expect things from guys, either as starters or as good depth, like Verse, Fiske, Corum, Kinchens, Davis, Whittingon, Karty, and Limmer. That would be a 80% hit rate, which is beyond exceptional.
August 11, 2024 at 6:24 pm #151668znModeratorLimmer went out, injured looks like.
August 11, 2024 at 6:33 pm #151669znModeratorIn this game they talked to McV live during a defensive series, with him commenting on the action as it unfolded. That was a lot of fun.
August 11, 2024 at 8:13 pm #151670znModeratorStetson Bennett’s TD in final seconds lifts Rams past Cowboys
August 11, 2024 at 8:21 pm #151675znModeratorHighlights: Rams’ Top Plays vs. Cowboys Preseason Week 1 | Stetson Bennett’s Game-Winning Drive
August 11, 2024 at 9:14 pm #151676InvaderRamModeratorMina Kimes. She’s Seattle’s version of Jourdan Rodrigue. Really does her homework. ENJOYS doing her homework. Two of the best ‘ever’ imho. w v
she really is. very knowledgeable.
August 11, 2024 at 9:22 pm #151677znModeratorSean McVay argues with officials as he wears a headset for Rams preseason broadcast
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Sean McVay doesn’t take the preseason seriously. Never has. He started the trend of some teams sitting their starters for all preseason games.
So why wouldn’t McVay jump on the broadcast for the Los Angeles Rams-Dallas Cowboys game on Sunday? Not like he was locked into the results of the game, right?
McVay did a full series on the headset with the Rams’ broadcast booth in the first half, commentating on the game as it unfolded, and did another series in the second half. Again, why not? And that led to a funny moment when McVay, still giving running commentary during the broadcast, started arguing with officials.
Ever wonder what an argument is like between a coach and the officials over a call? McVay let us know.
McVay took the headset off — we could still hear everything he said — and tried arguing his case. As usual, it did no good.
“Hey, I think when you see it you’ll see it differently!” McVay yelled at the officials.
Then McVay got his headset back on.
“That’s bad,” McVay said. “I don’t like that call.”
McVay gave us more comedy later in the drive. Cowboys quarterback Trey Lance scrambled for a first down on a fourth-down play. It was close to the first-down marker and McVay suddenly was asking if he should challenge it. The broadcasting team of Andrew Siciliano, Mina Kimes and former Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth all wanted him to challenge. Then McVay had to admit he didn’t have the challenge flag with him, it being preseason and all.
McVay has a future in broadcasting if he ever wants it, though he seems rejuvenated coaching the Rams. He had great energy breaking the game down as it happened in front of him. Maybe he can keep coaching and broadcasting all at once. It was pretty fun on Sunday.
August 11, 2024 at 9:29 pm #151678znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Even for a McVay-coached team, seeing the Rams top two draft picks in street clothes — for all the right reasons — for Preseason 1 vs DAL tells you everything you need to know about the impression Jared Verse & Braden Fiske have made and the role they’ll have for this defense.Rams Bros.@RamsBrothersJordan Whittington may have been the most impressive player on the field today. Right behind him was Tyler DavisJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
What an ovation in here for Stetson Bennett who – of course on the move – finally throws the TD. Rams up 13-12 with four seconds left. Good for him.Saw some solid things from a more comfortable-looking Bennett early on, plus a couple bad decisions – but now the turnovers are compounding as he throws his third INT.
INT No. 4 for Bennett – who will have some work to do to keep developing into QB3 here in LA.
Wrote about fans needing to keep an eye on Whittington after this year’s draft, based on his connection to Snead, to McVay’s offense and “heartbeat” label from Texas teammates. “He’s going to be a factor for us”, says Sean McVay about Jordan Whittington, among other comments.
ILB Jake Hummel wore the green dot for his group today, he told me. He felt comfortable in that role. He was proud of how clean the defense played overall.
Gregg Rosenthal@greggrosenthal
Jordan Whittington with a strong opening statement to the Preseason MVP votersJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Lot to like in that Rams first half.As succinctly as possible, how about Les Snead & Co.’s 6th Round? All making a great first impression at SoFi.
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Jordan Whittington, WR
Whittington was one of the players I was most excited to see in this game. He’s stood out in training camp practices and made a strong impression in his first game as a Ram. It’s worth noting that Les Snead’s son, Tate Haver, was college teammates with Whittington at Texas—giving the team as reliable as an inside source as you can get. Sean McVay is also close to head coach Steve Sarkisian, so it’s possible the NFL focused too much on early round receivers Xavier Worthy, AD Mitchell, and TE Ja’Tavion Sanders while overlooking
Whittington.The rookie caught Bennett’s first pass of the game for an early first down. Perhaps his next catch was his best of the day, as he made a contested reception, broke a tackle, and then showed a burst of speed as he ran for 30 yards in total. An important ability in McVay’s offense is running after the catch, which is something Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp have made their living on, so this is a positive sign for the rookie.
Whittington finished with six catches on nine targets for 74 yards.
Jake Hummel, MLB
Hummel is usually LA’s defensive MVP in the preseason, and the first half against Dallas was no exception. He’s possibly LA’s best coverage player at linebacker and he made his presence felt in that facet early and often. It’s fair to wonder why the Rams haven’t felt compelled to use Hummel with the first-string, especially considering Ernest Jones and Christian Rozeboom’s struggles in coverage.
All-in-all he finished with three total tackles and one recorded pass breakup.
Josh Karty, K
This was the first time we saw Josh Karty in live action after the team selected him in the sixth round of this spring’s NFL Draft. He’s reportedly been strong in practice, but kicking in a live game with a rush is a different animal.
Still, Karty passed the test and converted both of his field goals with a long of 39 yards. He made the game-winning extra point attempt which you could argue came with some pressure.
Tyler Davis, DT
Seeing the trend here? The Rams made four selections in the sixth round of the draft this year, and Davis’ inclusion puts three of them on the “winners” list for this game along with Whittington and arty.
Davis flashed at times as a pass rusher and then made an impressive tackle for loss in the run game while Sean McVay was talking with the broadcast team. He’ll be an important player to keep an eye on over the final two preseason games to see if he can carve out a role when the games start to count.
Davis finished with six total tackles including one for a loss.
August 11, 2024 at 11:02 pm #151679znModeratorStetson Bennett comes through at right time; takeaways from Rams-Cowboys game
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https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2024-08-11/rams-cowboys-takeaways
The Rams played the Dallas Cowboys in a preseason opener on Sunday at SoFi Stadium.
Observations from a game the Rams won, 13-12, in dramatic fashion:
Quarterback Stetson Bennett comes through in the end
Four interceptions, several the direct result of his poor decisions. Bennett did not let the mistakes bother him. On fourth down, with 11 seconds left, he got flushed from the pocket, ran to his left and then twisted his hips to throw a pass across his body, finding tight end Miller Forristall for a six-yard touchdown that tied the score and set up Josh Karty’s game-winning conversion kick.
Bennett did not stop running after delivering the pass. He continued past the Rams sideline before turning and locking eyes with McVay and teammates.
“You’re kind of floating,” Bennett said of the immediate aftermath of his big play. “That was pretty cool.”
Yes, it was only a preseason game. But it was a triumphant finish for Bennett, playing for the first time since struggling in the final preseason game in 2023. He completed 24 of 38 passes for 224 yards. If not for a defensive holding penalty earlier in the game, he might have finished with five interceptions.
But when he needed to make the biggest play of the game, he came through. “I thought I played well — and then just made a bunch of bad decisions, if that’s possible, right?” he said. “But I think at the end, I’m proud that we fought back and were resilient in the end.”
Bennett was at his best when offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur had him rolling out for passes or running for a first down on a bootleg play.
The Rams drafted Bennett, who led Georgia to two national titles, in the fourth round in 2023 to back up and possibly succeed Matthew Stafford. But Bennett was sidelined last season and was away from the team after he was put on the nonfootball injury/illness list before the season opener. He returned for offseason workouts, acknowledged that he had worked through mental-health issues, and rejoined a quarterback room that now features Stafford, new backup Jimmy Garoppolo and Dresser Winn.
Bennett said last week that he was “excited about playing football again” and was looking forward to the opportunity against the Cowboys.
He wasted no time showing it. Bennett led a 61-yard scoring drive that ended with Joshua Karty’s field goal for a 3-0 lead. Bennett completed four of five passes, including two to rookie receiver Jordan Whittngton for 43 yards.
But on the second play of his second series, Bennett’s pass over the middle was intercepted by safety Marquese Bell. He bounced back and directed a 76-yard drive that Karty completed with a 39-yard field goal for a 6-3 lead.
Though the interceptions began to mount — “occupational hazards,” coach Sean McVay said of the first two — Bennett got the ball back with 2 minutes 49 seconds left.
He directed a 13-play, 70-yard drive that he finished with a flourish. “It’s just about, ‘Hey, how do you stay together? How do you respond in the midst of it,’” McVay said. “And how do you know that, ‘Hey, all I can do is the next right thing. And that’s exactly what he did that drive.’”
Whittington catches on fast
Whittington, a sixth-round draft pick from Texas, showed he can contribute to a receiving corps that includes stars Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua, and veterans Demarcus Robinson and Tutu Atwell.
Whittington caught six passes for 74 yards. He was particularly effective on crossing routes and came up big on fourth down.
During the first drive, Whittington caught a 13-yard pass on a crossing pattern. He also caught another pass over middle, broke a tackle and ran for a 30-yard gain to set up a field goal.
“I was just super grateful,” Whittington said of his thoughts before his first game as a pro. “I’ve dreamed of being here so to see my name on the back of an NFL jersey — it was a lot.
“I remember before the game, I was praying and I was like, ‘God, if this life only exists in my dreams, don’t wake me up.’”
Starters and top rookies sit
McVay held out established star players, other starters and projected major contributors. Likewise Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy.
Among Rams draft picks on the sideline were edge rusher Jared Verse and defensive tackle Braden Fiske, the Rams’ first- and second-round selections. They were joined by running back Blake Corum (third-round pick).
Rookie safety Kamren Kinchens (third round) started and made one tackle. Defensive lineman Tyler Davis (sixth round) made two tackles. Whittington and center Beaux Limmer (sixth round) also started.
Boston Scott makes an impression
Kyren Williams is the starting running back, Corum the probable backup and Ronnie Rivers is a dependable third option.
But the Rams learned last year with Royce Freeman that a veteran on the roster can contribute in the wake of injuries. Boston Scott has an opportunity to replace Freeman as that veteran.
Scott rushed for 68 yards in 15 carries.
Defensive rotational players get work
With starters such as Kobie Turner and Bobby Brown not playing, veteran Larrell Murchison and second-year pro Desjuan Johnson led a front that mostly neutralized backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.
Safety Jason Taylor II had a team-high six tackles. Linebacker Jacob Hummel called defensive signals and made three tackles.
Karty kick-starts special teams
The Rams drafted Karty in the sixth round, confident the former Stanford standout could help them overcome last season’s kicking woes.
Karty did not disappoint.
He kicked a 28-yard field goal in the first quarter to give the Rams a 3-0 lead. His 39-yard field goal in the second quarter put them ahead, 6-3.
And his conversion kick with four seconds left won the game.
“It was very loud after the touchdown,” Karty said. “I haven’t really experienced that … much in my career,” he said of preparing for the kick. “It was the same thing as normal though — just trying to rally the guys in, get them ready for the extra point instead of celebrating the touchdown. Make sure we don’t run out of time on the play clock and then, yeah, you know, same thing as always.”
Playing for the first time under the NFL’s new kickoff rules, Xavier Smith had two returns for 47 yards.
Ethan Evans averaged 46.5 yards for two punts.
August 12, 2024 at 6:09 am #151680znModeratorRodrigue, from https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5694672/2024/08/11/la-rams-53-man-roster-projection-depth-chart/?source=emp_shared_article
INGLEWOOD, Calif. — A preseason game with quite a bit of “bad” — four interceptions’ worth, and nearly a fifth that was called back due to a penalty — from third-string quarterback Stetson Bennett, also featured one great moment with just seconds to play and the Los Angeles Rams in a six-point deficit. Bennett flushed to his left at the 6-yard line, then slung a pass to reserve tight end Miller Forristall for the game-tying touchdown. Rookie kicker Josh Karty hit the game-winning extra point in the 13-12 victory (Karty was also 2-for-2 on field goals of 28 and 39 yards).
Bennett went 24-of-38 with 224 yards, the touchdown and the four interceptions for a 48.5 passer rating. While he made multiple bad choices with throws (and admitted as much postgame), he did look more confident getting in and out of the huddle and in setting up the actual offense in general. This was not at always the case in 2023, whether in training camp practices or the preseason.
“I thought I played well, and then just made a bunch of bad decisions if that’s possible,” Bennett said. “… I told myself today, ‘We’re gonna roll with the punches.’ My goal was to not make any mental errors, (it) was basically to run the offense correctly. I know the interceptions are different, but like, to run in and out of the huddle, execute. And I thought we did that for the majority of the day. There were some lapses, obviously. …
“Not overthinking it. You get a play in, you give a play, and then you do your job. I think last year I was kind of building it up to be more than that. I was trying to find the answer somewhere. The answer is, listen to (the coaches). They tell you what to do. Do it.”
The brightest moments of the day came from two rookies, receiver Jordan Whittington and Karty. Whittington looked at ease in coach Sean McVay’s offense, as “vanilla” as the preseason is, and showed his comfort with NFL contact (even backups) with a 31-yard catch-and-run slant during which he broke a tackle.
“He played like a grown man with the ball in his hands, (and) did a great job without it,” McVay said of Whittington. “He’s going to be a factor for us.”
Whittington has gotten a significant workload since spring OTAs, including with the first team and especially in the absence of Puka Nacua (knee).
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Also notable: the second- and third-team defensive units did not allow a touchdown, despite playing so much of the game in sudden-change after Bennett’s turnovers.
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Davis had a very good preseason debut, with six tackles (one for loss) and a quarterback hit.
August 12, 2024 at 8:38 am #151681wvParticipantI’ve seen enough of Mr Bennett. If I’m a defensive coordinator, I LOVE facing Stetson.
They can do better.
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August 12, 2024 at 10:50 am #151683znModeratorI’ve seen enough of Mr Bennett. If I’m a defensive coordinator, I LOVE facing Stetson. They can do better. w v
It’s simply a matter of coaching. They just sit him down and say okay Stetson, stop throwing interceptions…fair enough big guy?
Voila. Problem solved.
You’ve never really learned how to appreciate coaching.
August 12, 2024 at 12:29 pm #151684znModeratorBrian Baldinger@BaldyNFL.@RamsNFL #TylerDavis, DL from @ClemsonFB was pick #196 but he sure showed up and showed out in his first Varsity Action v the @dallascowboys . This effort is how you make a roster. #BaldysBreakdowns.link to vid: https://x.com/BaldyNFL/status/1823003059850760296August 12, 2024 at 1:24 pm #151686znModeratorJordan Whittington looks like a STUD already
August 12, 2024 at 2:14 pm #151687wvParticipantI’ve seen enough of Mr Bennett. If I’m a defensive coordinator, I LOVE facing Stetson. They can do better. w v
It’s simply a matter of coaching. They just sit him down and say okay Stetson, stop throwing interceptions…fair enough big guy? Voila. Problem solved. You’ve never really learned how to appreciate coaching.
Has McVay ever ‘developed’ a rookie QB ? I guess he constructed Goff, but he also deconstructed Goff.
Maybe its just hard to find good rookie QB projects in the lower rounds. They seem to do pretty well with the other positions.
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August 12, 2024 at 2:27 pm #151689znModeratorHas McVay ever ‘developed’ a rookie QB ? I guess he constructed Goff, but he also deconstructed Goff.
But with Goff there’s a “history.” McV was not the de facto qb coach in 2017 and 2018. He didn’t start taking over that role until 2019. In both 17 and 18 JG had legit, well-regarded qb coaches (1 each year) who among other things were buffers between the HC and the qb. In 2018 it was Greg Olson, who was a long-standing great qb coach (he was the coordinator for the Rams in 2006 and when he took over the play calling that year, it led to Bulger’s best games). Olson left to take an OC job, and then the qb coach was Zac Taylor, the now HC for the Bengals who developed Burrow.
Stafford and McV have a much more collaborative relationship.
So in fact McV didn’t develop Goff, and it’s not clear he has ever developed a young qb.
August 12, 2024 at 5:38 pm #151692InvaderRamModeratorSo in fact McV didn’t develop Goff, and it’s not clear he has ever developed a young qb.
yeah. not sure he’s a “qb whisperer” or whatever you want to call it. like an andy reid.
what are his strengths? he seems to be able to hire the right guys. he is a leader like no one the rams have seen since vermeil himself. just the respect i hear come from players’ mouths. like aaron donald.
like a combination of dick vermeil and i don’t know. what are his strengths as an offensive coach?
August 12, 2024 at 6:05 pm #151693znModeratorwhat are his strengths as an offensive coach?
You know, I have only a basic sense of that. I listen to and read good analysis of what Rams do on offense a lot, but I’m not fluent in repeating it. But basically, it’s designing an offensive system where the defense has trouble telling plays apart before the snap and the routes are designed to be mutually supporting in ways that always gets a guy open.
He’s self-aware enough to add new wrinkles, like using a lot of duo blocking in the run game and putting Stafford in the pistol, which he did a lot last year…and none of which he did before. Anothing thing he added last year was building all sorts of variations into using the TE as a blocker on the move (turning motion for example into a running head start into blocking assignments).
I sometimes think is less adept situationally, meaning he’s not always tactically adept at play calling in specific situations. For example, in spite of all their fire power, the Rams have only been top 10 in this stat–NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)–only 2 seasons out of 7 since McV took over (2019 and 2023).
But yes he and Vermeil rank at the top of Rams coaches since I first started following them back in the 70s. It’s culture. It’s communication. With Vermeil, it was team-building (McV inherited his team in 2017 though he and Snead are obviously catching up when it comes to their team-building chops). With McV, it’s offensive innovation and design.
On team building. One Vermeil hallmark, which Snead/McV are now doing too. It’s using to the max every single way to acquire players.
Drafting, low and high. Holt, but also Little and Hakim. Actually Sn/McV may have surpassed DV at this in the lower rounds.
Trades. Faulk.
High market free agents. Green, Timmerman, Wilkins.
Low market free agents. Nutten, Jones.
UDFAs. Fletcher, Jenkins, Horne.
“Ronin.” Warner, McCollum.
And then the player development to go along with that.
Sn/McV may be surpassing DV when it comes to combining all those things, all being done at a high level all at the same time. Look at their starting OL for example (when it’s healthy). 2 decently high picks (Avila, Hav). 1 tow round trade (Dotson). 1 high market FA (Jackson). 1 UDFA (Jackson). And their new guy, Limmer, already looks like a great low-round pick.
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August 12, 2024 at 7:05 pm #151694InvaderRamModeratorI sometimes think is less adept situationally, meaning he’s not always tactically adept at play calling in specific situations. For example, in spite of all their fire power, the Rams have only been top 10 in this stat–NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)–only 2 seasons out of 7 since McV took over (2019 and 2023).
is this something that can be improved upon? you figure the more situations he sees as a play caller the more he can hone that decision making? or is it just feel? i don’t know.
he’s still so young. it’s crazy. i don’t think he’s even close to realizing his potential.
August 13, 2024 at 11:21 am #151706znModeratorHe seems to be able to hire the right guys. he is a leader like no one the rams have seen since vermeil himself. just the respect i hear come from players’ mouths. like aaron donald.[/quote
From https://www.lafbnetwork.com/jimmy-garoppolo-takes-shot-at-former-teams/
Garoppolo shared with Jeff Howe of The Athletic how much he appreciates playing for the Rams organization. According to Howe, Garoppolo was impressed by, head coach, Sean McVay after a pre-signing phone call. He also wanted to spend time learning Stafford’s process.
Since joining the team, apparently, he continues to be impressed;
“They do it in the right way here. They push you positively. There’s just a lot of good things going on, man. I’m enjoying every bit of it. Even the meetings are a good time.”
August 13, 2024 at 12:27 pm #151709znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueOne note for all rightfully enthused by Whittington – it’s easy at the moment to see what his role could be bc Nacua (knee) is not practicing. Nacua will be back soon. Just to say, real role + load will unfold after that and *in practice* since Nacua + others won’t play preseason.LB Jake Hummel wore the green dot for his group today, he told me. He felt comfortable in that role. He was proud of how clean the defense played overall.August 13, 2024 at 5:50 pm #151713InvaderRamModeratori haven’t seen whittington play yet but i’m excited. another wr willing to do the dirty work. this draft class so far is looking like another hit. is it possible?
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