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September 12, 2020 at 2:10 pm #120817znModerator
Police in Georgia pull over a Lyft driver then assaults a passenger IN FRONT OF HIS KID for not having ID (another angle) pic.twitter.com/HA9Ri6OUja
— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) September 12, 2020
September 12, 2020 at 2:15 pm #120819znModeratorGraphic Video Shows Georgia Cops Brutally Beat Unarmed Black Man Bloody ‘For Not Having His ID’
link https://newsone.com/4013363/georgia-police-brutality-video-unarmed-black-man/
A video of showing police brutalizing an unarmed Black man was making the rounds on social media Saturday morning and showed multiple cops beating him bloody and apparently unconscious on a street, and it was purportedly all because he either did not have his ID on him or did not show it to the cops.
An officer with the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office has been placed on administrative leave and an investigation was underway for what police described as “a video posted on social media involving a Deputy using physical force on a man.” Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill “ordered his entire Internal Affairs Unit to come in and begin an investigation,” according to a press release.
The video was first posted to Instagram on Friday night by someone who said the victim was her cousin. It was not immediately clear if she was the one who filmed it, but she said it happened earlier that day.
The footage showed at least two officers smothering the man with their bodies on a street in an apparent attempt to restrain him. When both officers of the peace trained in de-escalation tactics could not manage to place one man in handcuffs, one cop repeatedly punched him in the face until he was not only bloody but also apparently unconscious.
This was all happening as the man’s apparent young son was watching.
It did not appear that the Black man was resisting.
The video opened up with the two cops wrestling with the Black man and one even punching him in the face. When the person filming tells the cops to stop punching him, the cop says, “he’s biting my hand.” The same cop then presses the man’s head into the pavement as the man yells, “I’m gonna die!” and “I can’t breathe!”
The woman filming the video screams, “No, don’t kill him! He said he can’t breathe!”
That’s when the same cop decided that punching the man in the face multiple times was the best course of action.
“We can’t get him in handcuffs,” one cop says as a third officer is seen rushing into the frame to assist.
The Black man’s legs can be seen shaking as the three cops still can’t manage to put an unconscious man in handcuffs.
As the cops step away briefly, the video shows blood streaming from the unresponsive man’s face.
According to the Instagram post, the man was in a ride-sharing car, perhaps a Lyft, when the driver was pulled over because his “tail light was out.” The driver “didn’t have his License.” When the cops asked the passengers (“my cousin and his girl”) for their IDs, they asked why it was necessary to identify themselves when they had done nothing wrong.
That’s when, according to the IG post, the cops “told him to get out the car and this what happened”:
September 12, 2020 at 2:19 pm #120820znModeratorSeptember 12, 2020 at 5:33 pm #120831waterfieldParticipantGraphic Video Shows Georgia Cops Brutally Beat Unarmed Black Man Bloody ‘For Not Having His ID’
link https://newsone.com/4013363/georgia-police-brutality-video-unarmed-black-man/
A video of showing police brutalizing an unarmed Black man was making the rounds on social media Saturday morning and showed multiple cops beating him bloody and apparently unconscious on a street, and it was purportedly all because he either did not have his ID on him or did not show it to the cops.
An officer with the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office has been placed on administrative leave and an investigation was underway for what police described as “a video posted on social media involving a Deputy using physical force on a man.” Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill “ordered his entire Internal Affairs Unit to come in and begin an investigation,” according to a press release.
The video was first posted to Instagram on Friday night by someone who said the victim was her cousin. It was not immediately clear if she was the one who filmed it, but she said it happened earlier that day.
The footage showed at least two officers smothering the man with their bodies on a street in an apparent attempt to restrain him. When both officers of the peace trained in de-escalation tactics could not manage to place one man in handcuffs, one cop repeatedly punched him in the face until he was not only bloody but also apparently unconscious.
This was all happening as the man’s apparent young son was watching.
It did not appear that the Black man was resisting.
The video opened up with the two cops wrestling with the Black man and one even punching him in the face. When the person filming tells the cops to stop punching him, the cop says, “he’s biting my hand.” The same cop then presses the man’s head into the pavement as the man yells, “I’m gonna die!” and “I can’t breathe!”
The woman filming the video screams, “No, don’t kill him! He said he can’t breathe!”
That’s when the same cop decided that punching the man in the face multiple times was the best course of action.
“We can’t get him in handcuffs,” one cop says as a third officer is seen rushing into the frame to assist.
The Black man’s legs can be seen shaking as the three cops still can’t manage to put an unconscious man in handcuffs.
As the cops step away briefly, the video shows blood streaming from the unresponsive man’s face.
According to the Instagram post, the man was in a ride-sharing car, perhaps a Lyft, when the driver was pulled over because his “tail light was out.” The driver “didn’t have his License.” When the cops asked the passengers (“my cousin and his girl”) for their IDs, they asked why it was necessary to identify themselves when they had done nothing wrong.
That’s when, according to the IG post, the cops “told him to get out the car and this what happened”:
The only thing that makes any kind of sense is that the vehicle may have resembled a stolen car or in fact was reported stolen and the broken light was simply a way to talk to the driver. That might also explain probable cause and the need to ask for ID of the passengers as possible participants in a crime. Right now have to wait to see what the investigation determines. Hard to tell whether the one cop was bitten or not but something caused and injury to his hand. Anyway, I suspect the cop’s story won’t be about a broken tail light but will focus on “suspicious” conduct especially when the driver has no ID. That will be the defense and maybe suffice in Georgia for probable cause.
September 12, 2020 at 5:38 pm #120835znModeratorThe only thing that makes any kind of sense is that the vehicle may have resembled a stolen car or in fact was reported stolen and the broken light was simply a way to talk to the driver. That might also explain probable cause and the need to ask for ID of the passengers as possible participants in a crime. Right now have to wait to see what the investigation determines. Hard to tell whether the one cop was bitten or not but something caused an injury to his hand. Anyway, I suspect the cop’s story won’t be about a broken tail light but will focus on “suspicious” conduct especially when the driver has no ID. That will be the defense and maybe suffice in Georgia for probable cause.
If that were the case the police would say so. Don’t you think?
Hitting a guy in the mouth will cut your hand. Right?
W this fits a profile. Cops are more likely to stop, search, arrest, and use force against black men.
They beat the guy up because he defied them by asking why they needed his ID since he was just a passenger.
The issue wasn’t probable cause, he had a tail light out…that is sufficient grounds to pull a guy over.
They had NO grounds to ask for the passenger’s ID but then they will make one up soon enough.
When asked about interactions with law enforcement during their lifetimes, 4 in 10 (41%) Black Americans say they have been stopped or detained by police because of their race, and 1 in 5 Black adults (21%), including 3 in 10 Black men, say they have been a victim of police violence.
When asked about incidents just in the past year, 3 in 10 (30%) Black Americans say they personally experienced unfair treatment by police during traffic stops and other encounters. That is nearly three times the share of Hispanic Americans (11%) and ten times the share of White Americans (3%) who report such unfair treatment by police in the past year.
September 12, 2020 at 9:19 pm #120843waterfieldParticipantThe cops are trained not to say anything in defense of their actions unless and until they are faced with an investigation. So no they wouldn’t be saying anything in their own defense. I know nothing about what took place other than watching the video. Those who make opinions based on that particular video are usually agenda driven either defending the actions of the police or criticizing the cops. What I am saying is that I can see the story or explanation coming from the police as follows: We saw a car resembling one reported to be stolen so we used the broken taillight as a means to make the stop and talk to the driver. When the driver had no ID that gave us probable cause to, at a minimum, ask the occupants to step outside so they could determine, safely, if this was indeed a stolen car. At some point, not shown on the video, something triggered the altercation. We have no idea what that was. Yes the officers hand could have been cut or injured when he was hitting the victim or as equally consistent when he was bitten as he claimed on the spot. Once again, no one other than those involved know. A witnesses video can reveal great stuff in a dispute but it can also hide material facts. I say we wait until the investigation, already ongoing, is complete.
September 12, 2020 at 10:01 pm #120841waterfieldParticipantThe only thing that makes any kind of sense is that the vehicle may have resembled a stolen car or in fact was reported stolen and the broken light was simply a way to talk to the driver. That might also explain probable cause and the need to ask for ID of the passengers as possible participants in a crime. Right now have to wait to see what the investigation determines. Hard to tell whether the one cop was bitten or not but something caused an injury to his hand. Anyway, I suspect the cop’s story won’t be about a broken tail light but will focus on “suspicious” conduct especially when the driver has no ID. That will be the defense and maybe suffice in Georgia for probable cause.
If that were the case the police would say so. Don’t you think?
Hitting a guy in the mouth will cut your hand. Right?
W this fits a profile. Cops are more likely to stop, search, arrest, and use force against black men.
They beat the guy up because he defied them by asking why they needed his ID since he was just a passenger.
The issue wasn’t probable cause, he had a tail light out…that is sufficient grounds to pull a guy over.
They had NO grounds to ask for the passenger’s ID but then they will make one up soon enough.
When asked about interactions with law enforcement during their lifetimes, 4 in 10 (41%) Black Americans say they have been stopped or detained by police because of their race, and 1 in 5 Black adults (21%), including 3 in 10 Black men, say they have been a victim of police violence.
When asked about incidents just in the past year, 3 in 10 (30%) Black Americans say they personally experienced unfair treatment by police during traffic stops and other encounters. That is nearly three times the share of Hispanic Americans (11%) and ten times the share of White Americans (3%) who report such unfair treatment by police in the past year.
First, the police won’t say anything right now. That’s not how the union works or is it how it should work given the investigation is moving forward. Second, I know nothing about what happened other than the video. The only people that “know” are those involved. Those that proclaim some were at fault or were not have fault without knowing the facts -all-are either blindly supporting the police or blinding following an agenda that dictates in these situations it’s always the cops at fault. What I am saying is that I can see how this will be framed by the police union or even the officers themselves. And that is they saw a car resembling one reported stolen and used a broken taillight to make the stop. Once the driver did not show any ID the combination likely -according to Georgia State law-gave them probable cause to, at a minimun, ask or order the occupants to step outside. For whatever reasons something then triggered the altercation. I’m not saying those ARE the facts but I am saying that will likely be the story line and its credibility will hopefully be determined by the investigation. Something “triggered” the altercation and that something isn’t shown on the video. As you pointed out the injured hand could simply be the officers hitting the victim. But its just as consistent with the officer’s statement that he was bitten by the victim. I wouldn’t rush to judgment until all the facts are determined by those in charge of determining just that.
September 12, 2020 at 10:04 pm #120847znModeratorFirst, the police won’t say anything right now.
They do it all the time, W. How often do you read stories about police violence? In Kenosha they were saying immediately Blake was suspected of having a knife.
Any attempt you make to exonerate these guys, I am just going to generally not be all that sympatico with. It’s a national crisis and I don’t feel like whitewashing it.
You do not beat a guy senseless for refusing to show ID when he is not suspected of anything. You just don’t. That is not how policing ought to work.
And this just strikes me as being completely out of touch:
Something “triggered” the altercation and that something isn’t shown on the video.
There is an entire generation right now seeing through those old excuses, W.
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September 13, 2020 at 3:29 pm #120888waterfieldParticipantFirst, the police won’t say anything right now.
They do it all the time, W. How often do you read stories about police violence? In Kenosha they were saying immediately Blake was suspected of having a knife.
Any attempt you make to exonerate these guys, I am just going to generally not be all that sympatico with. It’s a national crisis and I don’t feel like whitewashing it.
You do not beat a guy senseless for refusing to show ID when he is not suspected of anything. You just don’t. That is not how policing ought to work.
And this just strikes me as being completely out of touch:
Something “triggered” the altercation and that something isn’t shown on the video.
There is an entire generation right now seeing through those old excuses, W.
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How in the world can a statement that says “whatever triggered the altercation is not shown on the video” is an “excuse” ? It is a statement of “fact” ! Saying it is an “excuse” is agenda driven and turns objective people off. What I wrote was nothing more but black and white impartiality. Lets wait and see what comes from the investigation. I will give you this. If you have an agenda I can see how you could interpret my impartiality as actually being supportive of the police. Truth is I’ve been on the other end representing victims of police brutality and what I’m saying is I can see how the story may be coming from the officers. If that means I’m supporting the police then-well I’m lost.
September 15, 2020 at 2:54 am #121060znModeratorfrom https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-deputy-fired-roderick-walker-arrest-172040784.html
A Georgia deputy sheriff has been fired following an investigation into a video showing a Black man being beaten on an Atlanta street during a traffic stop on Friday.
The unidentified deputy was terminated for excessive use of force during the arrest of Roderick Walker, 26, the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office said on Sunday.
In the video, Walker is pinned down by two white deputies as one of them punches him in the head, leaving him bloody and at times unconscious, his attorney Shean Williams said at a press conference.
Initially, Walker was asked to provide identification to the deputies, Williams said, but Walker told them that he didn’t have any on him since he wasn’t driving.
“They became upset when he asked, ‘Why are you asking for my ID? I’m not driving and I haven’t done anything wrong,’” Williams said, according to Atlanta station WSB-TV.
Walker was arrested on charges of battery and obstructing law enforcement officers and ordered held without bail due to an existing felony probation warrant out of Fulton County, the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office said. That warrant is for cruelty to children, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and failure to appear.
September 15, 2020 at 9:50 am #121067wvParticipant…Walker was arrested on charges of battery and obstructing law enforcement officers and ordered held without bail due to an existing felony probation warrant out of Fulton County, the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office said. That warrant is for cruelty to children, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and failure to appear.
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Well, it looked to ‘me’ like a clear case of excessive violence by the police.
But I’m curious about the probation warrant. In WV if there is a ‘violation of probation warrant’ the probation-officer or any officer doesnt need any probable cause to make an arrest. The warrant itself is the cause.
Just curious if the officer involved recognized the victim in this case, and knew of the probation-warrant and wanted confirmation of who he was. Maybe the officer got frustrated because he suspected who the guy was, but couldnt prove it without the ID. Maybe the frustration lead to an escalation in tension which lead to the violence.I’m not defending the cop — excessive force is excessive force. Whether there is a warrant or not. I’m just trying to understand the dynamics of what happened, what started the escalation, etc.
A lot of these cases are black and white — excessive force.
A lot of others are tricky, gray area stuff that just comes with the capitalist-law-enforcement-territory.
This case may have a little of both.w
vSeptember 15, 2020 at 12:08 pm #121092znModerator…Walker was arrested on charges of battery and obstructing law enforcement officers and ordered held without bail due to an existing felony probation warrant out of Fulton County, the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office said. That warrant is for cruelty to children, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and failure to appear.
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Well, it looked to ‘me’ like a clear case of excessive violence by the police.
But I’m curious about the probation warrant. In WV if there is a ‘violation of probation warrant’ the probation-officer or any officer doesnt need any probable cause to make an arrest. The warrant itself is the cause.
Just curious if the officer involved recognized the victim in this case, and knew of the probation-warrant and wanted confirmation of who he was. Maybe the officer got frustrated because he suspected who the guy was, but couldnt prove it without the ID. Maybe the frustration lead to an escalation in tension which lead to the violence.I’m not defending the cop — excessive force is excessive force. Whether there is a warrant or not. I’m just trying to understand the dynamics of what happened, what started the escalation, etc.
A lot of these cases are black and white — excessive force.
A lot of others are tricky, gray area stuff that just comes with the capitalist-law-enforcement-territory.
This case may have a little of both.w
vI don’t think there’s any indication they suspected him of having a warrant. It looks to me like he was defiant and they just didn’t like that.
But anyway yes we agree that excessive force is excessive force. One cop was fired, straight up. It seems to me if the cops fire a guy for excessive force then there’s no grounds for debate. It’s basically a statement that even the cops thought he was out of line.
It’s also pretty clear the guy they beat up was wary of the warrant and acting accordingly. As you apparently agree, still no excuse. So let’s say, a cop recognized him and knew he had a warrant. And he acted up and was resistant. And they had to restrain him. There’s no other way to do that short of beating him unconscious while he’s being held down? (?!) If they can’t do better than that then they shouldn’t be cops.
September 16, 2020 at 12:36 pm #121149znModeratorfrom The Police Are Lying in LA and the Media Is Falling for It—Again
In the wake of the brutal shooting of two police officers, the sheriff’s department is trying to fabricate a case against Black Lives Matter, and journalists are playing along.https://www.thenation.com/article/society/la-shooting-police-lies/
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Skepticism of police statements should be a basic requirement of competent journalism, but it is particularly critical in times like this, when police have a reason to lie. The police are angry at the attempted murder of two officers, and they want other people to be angry, so they are not even trying to provide an accurate account of events. Instead, they are trying to build a case against Black Lives Matter.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva (whose office tweeted out the misleading story about “protesters” at the hospital) could barely contain his contempt for BLM protesters in his statement about the shooting. “This is just a somber reminder that this is a dangerous job, and actions and words have consequences. Our job does not get any easier because people do not like law enforcement,” Villanueva said. “It pisses me off. It dismays me at the same time.”
In this statement, Villanueva is trying to draw a direct line between the “actions and words” of protesters to the attempted murder of police officers. He seems less interested in drawing a line from police brutality and the murder of Black people to the attempted murder of police officers.
The reality is that we don’t know why the suspect tried to kill those two officers, but we can see with our own eyes that his actions were wrong and dangerously misguided. Speculation into his motives is irresponsible absent evidence. It’s wrong for journalists to speculate, and it’s wrong for journalists to repeat the unverified, potentially unhinged speculations of the LA County sheriff without any evidence whatsoever.
It’s not like the social justice organization ambushed two police officers in a parked car. It’s not like social justice organizations have a history of targeting police officers for murder. But the person who did target and ambush police officers appears to be Black and thus, apparently, it’s all our faults. That’s how racial profiling works, don’t you know.
So the police already have their villain, and they are enacting their retribution. On Sunday, LA County sheriff’s deputies shut down a “protest encampment” across from LA City Hall. The holdouts had been there for months, living peacefully, but cops cleared it mere hours after the shooting. Cops claim it was taken down because of “deteriorating conditions,” but nobody is required to be addled enough to believe them.
The inability and unwillingness of the media to accurately report on police lies and sensationalism will have the effect of excusing additional acts of police brutality. The police will point to the one guy who shot police officers (for reasons not yet known) and the one dude who shouted “I hope y’all die” as justification for cops to go out on the street tonight and violate the constitutional rights of Black people, or beat Black people, or kill Black people. And by refusing to call out police hysteria, the media will make that hysteria seem reasonable.
Given the stakes, it’s not too much to ask the media to do its job. It’s not too much to ask journalists to act like journalists instead of stenographers. If I can restrain myself from being a snarky, irresponsible axe-grinder when it comes to “blue lives,” it’s not too much to ask mainstream sources to think before retweeting or republishing the latest round of blue lies.
September 16, 2020 at 3:44 pm #121164waterfieldParticipantfrom The Police Are Lying in LA and the Media Is Falling for It—Again
In the wake of the brutal shooting of two police officers, the sheriff’s department is trying to fabricate a case against Black Lives Matter, and journalists are playing along.https://www.thenation.com/article/society/la-shooting-police-lies/
…
Skepticism of police statements should be a basic requirement of competent journalism, but it is particularly critical in times like this, when police have a reason to lie. The police are angry at the attempted murder of two officers, and they want other people to be angry, so they are not even trying to provide an accurate account of events. Instead, they are trying to build a case against Black Lives Matter.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva (whose office tweeted out the misleading story about “protesters” at the hospital) could barely contain his contempt for BLM protesters in his statement about the shooting. “This is just a somber reminder that this is a dangerous job, and actions and words have consequences. Our job does not get any easier because people do not like law enforcement,” Villanueva said. “It pisses me off. It dismays me at the same time.”
In this statement, Villanueva is trying to draw a direct line between the “actions and words” of protesters to the attempted murder of police officers. He seems less interested in drawing a line from police brutality and the murder of Black people to the attempted murder of police officers.
The reality is that we don’t know why the suspect tried to kill those two officers, but we can see with our own eyes that his actions were wrong and dangerously misguided. Speculation into his motives is irresponsible absent evidence. It’s wrong for journalists to speculate, and it’s wrong for journalists to repeat the unverified, potentially unhinged speculations of the LA County sheriff without any evidence whatsoever.
It’s not like the social justice organization ambushed two police officers in a parked car. It’s not like social justice organizations have a history of targeting police officers for murder. But the person who did target and ambush police officers appears to be Black and thus, apparently, it’s all our faults. That’s how racial profiling works, don’t you know.
So the police already have their villain, and they are enacting their retribution. On Sunday, LA County sheriff’s deputies shut down a “protest encampment” across from LA City Hall. The holdouts had been there for months, living peacefully, but cops cleared it mere hours after the shooting. Cops claim it was taken down because of “deteriorating conditions,” but nobody is required to be addled enough to believe them.
The inability and unwillingness of the media to accurately report on police lies and sensationalism will have the effect of excusing additional acts of police brutality. The police will point to the one guy who shot police officers (for reasons not yet known) and the one dude who shouted “I hope y’all die” as justification for cops to go out on the street tonight and violate the constitutional rights of Black people, or beat Black people, or kill Black people. And by refusing to call out police hysteria, the media will make that hysteria seem reasonable.
Given the stakes, it’s not too much to ask the media to do its job. It’s not too much to ask journalists to act like journalists instead of stenographers. If I can restrain myself from being a snarky, irresponsible axe-grinder when it comes to “blue lives,” it’s not too much to ask mainstream sources to think before retweeting or republishing the latest round of blue lies.
Talk about coloring something: ” his actions were wrong and dangerously misguided.” Wrong and dangerously misguided? How about reporting what it was: a brutal assassination of two innocent police officers sitting in a patrol car close to a metro station with a history of crime. There to protect innocent passengers. One officer was a 31 year old woman with a young son and the other a 24 yr old male officer.
September 16, 2020 at 3:45 pm #121173waterfieldParticipantfrom The Police Are Lying in LA and the Media Is Falling for It—Again
In the wake of the brutal shooting of two police officers, the sheriff’s department is trying to fabricate a case against Black Lives Matter, and journalists are playing along.https://www.thenation.com/article/society/la-shooting-police-lies/
…
Skepticism of police statements should be a basic requirement of competent journalism, but it is particularly critical in times like this, when police have a reason to lie. The police are angry at the attempted murder of two officers, and they want other people to be angry, so they are not even trying to provide an accurate account of events. Instead, they are trying to build a case against Black Lives Matter.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva (whose office tweeted out the misleading story about “protesters” at the hospital) could barely contain his contempt for BLM protesters in his statement about the shooting. “This is just a somber reminder that this is a dangerous job, and actions and words have consequences. Our job does not get any easier because people do not like law enforcement,” Villanueva said. “It pisses me off. It dismays me at the same time.”
In this statement, Villanueva is trying to draw a direct line between the “actions and words” of protesters to the attempted murder of police officers. He seems less interested in drawing a line from police brutality and the murder of Black people to the attempted murder of police officers.
The reality is that we don’t know why the suspect tried to kill those two officers, but we can see with our own eyes that his actions were wrong and dangerously misguided. Speculation into his motives is irresponsible absent evidence. It’s wrong for journalists to speculate, and it’s wrong for journalists to repeat the unverified, potentially unhinged speculations of the LA County sheriff without any evidence whatsoever.
It’s not like the social justice organization ambushed two police officers in a parked car. It’s not like social justice organizations have a history of targeting police officers for murder. But the person who did target and ambush police officers appears to be Black and thus, apparently, it’s all our faults. That’s how racial profiling works, don’t you know.
So the police already have their villain, and they are enacting their retribution. On Sunday, LA County sheriff’s deputies shut down a “protest encampment” across from LA City Hall. The holdouts had been there for months, living peacefully, but cops cleared it mere hours after the shooting. Cops claim it was taken down because of “deteriorating conditions,” but nobody is required to be addled enough to believe them.
The inability and unwillingness of the media to accurately report on police lies and sensationalism will have the effect of excusing additional acts of police brutality. The police will point to the one guy who shot police officers (for reasons not yet known) and the one dude who shouted “I hope y’all die” as justification for cops to go out on the street tonight and violate the constitutional rights of Black people, or beat Black people, or kill Black people. And by refusing to call out police hysteria, the media will make that hysteria seem reasonable.
Given the stakes, it’s not too much to ask the media to do its job. It’s not too much to ask journalists to act like journalists instead of stenographers. If I can restrain myself from being a snarky, irresponsible axe-grinder when it comes to “blue lives,” it’s not too much to ask mainstream sources to think before retweeting or republishing the latest round of blue lies.
I have respect for Mystal but to refer to the brutal attempted assassination of two innocent officers in their car as “wrong and misguided” is itself incompetent journalism. “Misguided” ? This is way beyond the pot calling the kettle black. Here’s the video: let me know if you think this was a simple case of being “misguided”. Two cops now fighting to stay alive. One a 31 year old mother and the other a young 24 year old man.
September 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm #121261znModeratorPowerful message from Tyler Childers.
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He’s a big damn deal in this state.
Please take 2-minutes. I’ve never been a bigger fan. Courage.🌎🇺🇸pic.twitter.com/4mMB9ZkC4p
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) September 18, 2020
September 21, 2020 at 10:26 am #121436znModeratorI talked to seven current and former Kenosha cops and a Kenosha prosecutor in the weeks after Jacob Blake was shot 7 times. They described a police department bereft of diversity, steeped in racism and willing to break the law to cover up for their own. https://t.co/AP1NIQSASl
— robertklemko (@RobertKlemko) September 21, 2020
October 5, 2020 at 10:08 pm #122280znModeratorTexas man called ‘pillar of community’ is fatally shot by police officer as he tried to break up a fight, according to local reports.
A Texas man hailed as a “pillar of the community” was fatally shot by a police officer as he tried to break up a fight, according to local reports.
Jonathan Price, 31, intervened when he saw a man and a woman brawling outside a gas station Saturday night in Wolfe City, about 65 miles northeast of Dallas, witnesses told ABC affiliate WFAA-TV.
Family members and friends told the outlet that the man assaulted Price, and when officers responded to a report of the disturbance, a cop tased the good Samaritan, then shot him.
Authorities on Sunday said the cop involved was placed on administrative leave pending an investigation by the Texas Rangers, but did not release details about the shooting.
A former athlete, Price was employed by the city and also worked as a fitness trainer, relatives and friends said.
“Everybody loved Jonathan. Everybody. Black, white, Mexican, it don’t matter,” his sister, April Louis, told the outlet.
Price’s mother, Marcella Louis, said she wasn’t surprised to hear that her son would step in to stop a fight.
“That’s what he always did, tried to help others. I taught him that all the years,” Louis said.
A witness who was in a store across the street when shots rang out recognized the victim as Price, calling him a “pillar of the community.”
“We all love him and think so highly of him and just the nicest guy you could ever meet,” Kyla Sanders told the TV station.
Philadelphia-based civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt said he is working with the family to “get justice” for Price, calling him “a hometown hero.”
“Motivational speaker, trainer, professional athlete and community advocate — he was dearly loved by so many,” Merritt wrote on Facebook.
“He noticed a man assaulting a woman and he intervened,” Merritt continued. “When police arrived, I’m told, he raised his hands and attempted to explain what was going on.”
The attorney claimed: “Police fired tasers at him and when his body convulsed from the electrical current, they ‘perceived a threat’ and shot him to death.”
The family will be holding a vigil for Price on Monday evening.
October 6, 2020 at 9:40 am #122293znModeratorIn Wilmington a police car ran over black man and then they started arresting ppl asking about the man's condition ☹️ pic.twitter.com/MrbrJbXZxW
— LADYSTAR🌷💜🌷🇺🇸🆘 (@DianaBubby729) October 3, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 10:54 am #122746wvParticipantNice article.
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police:https://www.radicalhistoryreview.org/abusablepast/abolition-or-bust-liberal-police-reform-as-an-engine-of-carceral-violence/
Abolition or Bust: Liberal Police Reform as an Engine of Carceral Violence“…………Because “knowledge” of Black criminality was understood as a scientific and neutral fact, rather than a narrow and racialized political construction, liberals understood heightened policing in Black urban neighborhoods not as a form of racism and ongoing white supremacist terror, but as a legitimate and necessary response to urban crime. In the process, they conveniently invisibilized ongoing structural racism and police terrorism against Black communities. Through such a framework, they could declare their proud support for civil rights while also believing it necessary to expand the policing and penal control of Black urban neighborhoods. When Black people rose up against racist police brutality and oppression in a series of urban rebellions throughout the 1960s, liberal policymakers hardened this “consensus” around the so-called criminal behavior of “rioters” and intensified rather than confronted the harmful role of law enforcement in these neighborhoods. As Elizabeth Hinton writes in From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime: The Making of Mass Incarceration in America, “racism embedded within federal policy and the social science research that rationalized it encouraged officials to embrace patrol, surveillance, and confinement as a means of exerting social control in neighborhoods of segregated poverty.” These twin features of liberal law and order – the belief in the criminal legal system’s objectivity and fairness on the one hand, and a racist belief in a “statistical and sociological ‘truth’ of black criminality” – have ensured liberal police reforms have not only failed to make police less violent against Black people. As historians have shown, these reforms have actually worsened police violence and paved the way for our contemporary crisis of mass imprisonment.
Johnson’s War on Crime is a case and point….see link…”
October 10, 2020 at 2:09 pm #122757wvParticipantFarmers arresting a sheriff for trying to evict a widow 1952. pic.twitter.com/SYpM4ZShxx
— Exterminate Racism (@Extrm8or) October 2, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 4:14 pm #122766JackPMillerParticipantOctober 11, 2020 at 10:07 am #122787wvParticipantBlack man led by police while bound with rope sues city for $1M https://t.co/45TR5mdHpY
— Rodney Latstetter 🌹 #LaborParty (@proviewsusa) October 11, 2020
October 14, 2020 at 3:17 am #122989znModerator"Wow" is right! Watch the video. https://t.co/V2M01GeFAx
— Lance Reddick (@lancereddick) October 14, 2020
October 29, 2020 at 10:48 am #123557znModeratorTell me how you reform this… pic.twitter.com/5BUbs8zlkf
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) October 29, 2020
October 31, 2020 at 10:31 pm #123652znModeratorA high school newspaper has exposed how state police quoted Adolf Hitler and advocated violence in a training manual
In Kentucky, a high school newspaper obtained slides exposing how the state police force used Adolf Hitler quotes in their training sessions for recruits.
Students working on the Manual RedEye, the newspaper for Louisville’s duPont Manual High School, published exclusive slides a local attorney obtained through a public records request and shared with the publication on Friday.
In the slides, reported the RedEye, recruits are told to “meet violence with greater violence” and be a “ruthless killer” with “a mindset void of emotion.”
One slide then goes on to quote Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitic manifesto: “The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.”
The slideshow reportedly quotes Hitler twice more and concludes with the German motto “Über Alles,” meaning “above all” or “above everything,” associated with far-right nationalism in Germany. It was removed from the German national anthem after the defeat of the Nazis in World War II.
It also reportedly quotes Confederate general Robert E Lee, leader of the slavery defending states in the US Civil War.
Lieutenant Joshua Lawson, a spokesperson for the KSP, defended the material’s use in a statement to the newspaper.
“The presentation touches on several aspects of service, selflessness, and moral guidance,” wrote Lawson.
State governor Andy Beshar in a statement to USA Today described the manual as “unacceptable.”
“It is further unacceptable that I just learned about this through social media. We will collect all the facts and take immediate corrective action.”
The expose comes amid criticism of police forces throughout the US in the wake of a series of Black men’s killings by white police officers. The killings have led to widespread protests against police racism and the excessive use of violence by police.
In response to the protests, police have used, periodically, indiscriminate and violent tactics.
In September, two Lousiville police officers were shot and injured in protests that erupted after the decision not to charge any officers with the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor. Officers killed the Black ambulance technician in her home during a botched police raid.
A report by former FBI special agent Michael Berman in August found that that white supremacist organizations had infiltrated police forces across the US.
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