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June 9, 2020 at 6:42 pm #116130znModerator
Incredible drone imagery of LA protests pic.twitter.com/1CyYqdmf0y
— Justin Stevens (@_JustinStevens_) June 8, 2020
June 9, 2020 at 8:24 pm #116132wvParticipantStatue of slave owner Robert Milligan brought down in east London
9 June 2020
June 9, 2020 at 8:30 pm #116134wvParticipantstatues:https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/colston-has-fallen-whos-next/?
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Colston has fallen. Who’s next?The UK has honoured many slavers, plunderers and perpetrators of massacres. Here’s a list of some more candidates for de-plinthing.
ritish history is a story of empire, slavery and plunder. And so it’s not surprising that the statues, street names and buildings in our cities so often commemorate slavers, plunderers and the genocidal.
This weekend, a statue of the slaver Edward Colston in the centre of Bristol was pulled down and thrown into the harbour, symbolically reflecting the thousands of people thrown into the sea from his slave ships when they got sick on the crossing from their kidnap in Africa.
The statue of Colston, though, isn’t unique, or even unusual. Across the UK, many of our most famous buildings, streets and monuments are named after people deeply implicated in the worst crimes of empire. Here is a small sample of some of the most controversial memorials – please add more, from the UK and beyond, in the comments below.
Edinburgh: Henry Dundas….see link
June 10, 2020 at 4:48 pm #116162wvParticipantA biker gang brutally beat these protesters in Philly today. pic.twitter.com/r1TzXrOpNW
— Morgan J. Freeman (@mjfree) June 5, 2020
June 10, 2020 at 4:51 pm #116163wvParticipantWe’re one news cycle away from Fox News labeling Elmo’s dad an Antifa terrorist https://t.co/vSr6ORnLQ3
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) June 10, 2020
June 11, 2020 at 4:45 pm #116230wvParticipantJune 11, 2020 at 5:10 pm #116233wvParticipant‘cops’ tv-show cancelled.
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June 12, 2020 at 7:08 am #116409znModeratorThe Seattle Police Chief just attempted to walk back her lies about armed guards checking IDs and extorting businesses for protection money. She claims she heard it through the media.
Do you know who the media heard it from? Her police department.
Are you seeing how this works?
— Spek (@spekulation) June 11, 2020
June 12, 2020 at 7:09 am #116410znModeratorSaid he was reaching for a gun yet we could see both hands in this whole video. What a disgrace
— Daniel J. Clementi (@ChefDJClementi) June 11, 2020
June 12, 2020 at 7:41 am #116416wvParticipantJimmy Dore…goes off. “you mouth-breathing piece of shit, maniac…”
June 12, 2020 at 7:42 am #116417znModeratorA journalist in Minn shot with a rubber bullet lost an eye
An elderly man in Buffalo pushed to the ground has brain damage
A woman in NYC, assaulted, had a seizure
And the #UglyPresident said
“It’s not supposed to be a beautiful scene but to me it was”https://t.co/51gD1BZDWf https://t.co/Ess5bNRno4
— Adam Cohen Lawyers for Good Government #DemCast (@axidentaliberal) June 12, 2020
June 12, 2020 at 9:06 am #116424znModerator“Christopher Columbus statue pulled down Minnesota State Capitol”
People dance around the statue. pic.twitter.com/6gIPTe9nBs
— Max Nesterak (@maxnesterak) June 10, 2020
June 13, 2020 at 3:32 pm #116477znModeratorJune 14, 2020 at 10:58 am #116525znModerator#Tulsa the streets of Tulsa safer now that these evil jaywalkers got a police ass kicking? https://t.co/uOQstCUk6W
— Jeff Kwatinetz (@JeffKwatinetz) June 13, 2020
June 14, 2020 at 11:46 am #116530June 14, 2020 at 11:50 am #116531znModerator“Christopher Columbus statue pulled down Minnesota State Capitol”
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This one is about a different statue, but close enough.
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June 14, 2020 at 1:13 pm #116533znModeratorThe importance of knowing your rights – and having a camera…pic.twitter.com/CkPeIhTUp0
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) June 14, 2020
June 15, 2020 at 12:49 pm #116581znModeratorJune 15, 2020 at 1:07 pm #116583znModeratorAfter Police Board President praised police for their restraint, police beat him hours later.
Police Board president Ghian Foreman praised the police for their restraint at protests and for not hurting people. The police beat him a few hours later.President of the Chicago Police Board Ghian Foreman said police beat him with a baton.
This came just hours after he praised police for their professionalism, and how much “restraint” they showed at protests. He continued on to tell the Chicago Police:
“I would not have had the same restraint that many of your officers showed last night,”
And just hours later, he said he happened to walk by a protest that he wasn’t participating in, and police beat him.
He released a statement on Friday saying:
“I, indeed, was one of several individuals physically hit and struck by Chicago police on Sunday as they clashed with protestors, I was not participating in the protest, but coincidentally encountered the demonstration at a moment when it became confrontational.”
He stated that the police struck him with a baton 5 times. He later filed a complaint.
Mayor Lori Lightfoot said she urged Foreman to file a complaint, stating:
“There’s no reason that should’ve happened. He is hurting physically, I think he is hurting emotionally, and what happened to him is unacceptable.”
June 16, 2020 at 1:43 pm #116620wvParticipantNeo-Nazis who want to stop anti-racism protests against police brutality attack the police, so police demand a ban on protest, including against police brutality.
If we didn't know better, we might wonder whether neo-Nazis and the police were colluding https://t.co/H0cC6rwpES
— Jonathan Cook (@Jonathan_K_Cook) June 15, 2020
June 18, 2020 at 7:25 am #116701znModeratorLouisville, KY: "a guy records a half-dozen cops dogpiling a BLM protestor – and then one of the cops shoots the window to stop him from recording"
If that window wasn't there, this guy would either be severely injured or dead!
Understand what this meanspic.twitter.com/NAmkQkaSze
— StanceGrounded (@_SJPeace_) June 17, 2020
June 18, 2020 at 8:24 am #116707znModeratorthis is insane. white supremacist, whose dad worked in law enforcement, shot a protestor several times and the prosecutor just dropped the battery charge against him. this is what we mean when we say a fundamentally broken system cannot be reformed. https://t.co/dEMP86Ije8
— keyvan (کیوان) (@shafieikeyvan) June 18, 2020
June 19, 2020 at 2:09 am #116752znModeratorAnd nobody got clubbed, tased, or shot.
Finish the sentence, #IfTheyWereBlack… pic.twitter.com/TteqdEkTsB
— Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan) June 18, 2020
June 19, 2020 at 2:45 am #116753MackeyserModeratorAnd…it looks like they aren’t going to bring charges on the guy who’s the son of a disgraced deputy sheriff.
The guy SHOT another citizen and…nothing.
I swear, I have to keep watching nature videos, because the more of this I watch, the more I want to see the ashes after it all burns down.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
June 19, 2020 at 12:58 pm #116779znModeratorA WV post. I moved it from another thread.
“In Uprooting Racism, Paul Kivel makes a useful comparison between the rhetoric abusive men employ to justify beating up their girlfriends, wives, or children and the publicly traded justifications for widespread racism. He writes: During the first few years that I worked with men who are violent I was continually perplexed by their inability to see the effects of their actions and their ability to deny the violence they had done to their partners or children. I only slowly became aware of the complex set of tactics that men use to make violence against women invisible and to avoid taking responsibility for their actions. These tactics are listed below in the rough order that men employ them.… (1) Denial: “I didn’t hit her.” (2) Minimization: “It was only a slap.” (3) Blame: “She asked for it.” (4) Redefinition: “It was mutual combat.” (5) Unintentionality: “Things got out of hand.” (6) It’s over now: “I’ll never do it again.” (7) It’s only a few men: “Most men wouldn’t hurt a woman.” (8) Counterattack: “She controls everything.” (9) Competing victimization: “Everybody is against men.” Kivel goes on to detail the ways these nine tactics are used to excuse (or deny) institutionalized racism. Each of these tactics also has its police analogy, both as applied to individual cases and in regard to the general issue of police brutality. Here are a few examples: (1) Denial. “The professionalism and restraint … was nothing short of outstanding.” “America does not have a human-rights problem.” (2) Minimization. Injuries were “of a minor nature.” “Police use force infrequently.” (3) Blame. “This guy isn’t Mr. Innocent Citizen, either. Not by a long shot.” “They died because they were criminals.” (4) Redefinition. It was “mutual combat.” “Resisting arrest.” “The use of force is necessary to protect yourself.” (5) Unintentionality. “[O]fficers have no choice but to use deadly force against an assailant who is deliberately trying to kill them.…” (6) It’s over now. “We’re making changes.” “We will change our training; we will do everything in our power to make sure it never happens again.” (7) It’s only a few men. “A small proportion of officers are disproportionately involved in use-of-force incidents.” “Even if we determine that the officers were out of line … it is an aberration.” (8) Counterattack. “The only thing they understand is physical force and pain.” “People make complaints to get out of trouble.” (9) Competing victimization. The police are “in constant danger.” “[L]iberals are prejudiced against police, much as many white police are biased against Negroes.” The police are “the most downtrodden, oppressed, dislocated minority in America.” Another commonly invoked rationale for justifying police violence is: (10) The Hero Defense. “These guys are heroes.” “The police routinely do what the rest of us don’t: They risk their lives to keep the peace. For that selfless bravery, they deserve glory, laud and honor.” “[W]ithout the police … anarchy would be rife in this country, and the civilization now existing on this hemisphere would perish.” “[T]hey alone stand guard at the upstairs door of Hell.”
― Kristian Williams, Our Enemies in Blue: Police and Power in AmericaJune 19, 2020 at 3:02 pm #116794wvParticipantLOUISVILLE, Ky. — Louisville’s mayor said Friday that one of three police officers involved in the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor will be fired.
Mayor Greg Fischer said interim Louisville police Chief Robert Schroeder has started termination proceedings for Officer Brett Hankison. Two other officers remain on administrative reassignment while the shooting is investigated.
Fischer said officials could not answer questions about the firing because of state law. He referred all questions to the Jefferson County attorney’s office.
Taylor, who was black, was shot eight times by officers who burst into her Louisville home using a no-knock warrant during a March 13 narcotics investigation. No drugs were found at her home.
A letter the chief sent to Hankison said the officer violated standard operating procedures when he “wantonly and blindly fired 10 rounds into the apartment of Breonna Taylor.”
The letter says he fired the rounds “without supporting facts” that the deadly force was directed at a person posing an immediate threat.
“In fact, the 10 rounds you fired were into a patio door and window which were covered with material that completely prevented you from verifying any person as an immediate threat or more importantly any innocent persons present,” the letter states.
“I find your conduct a shock to the conscience,” Schroeder said in the letter. “Your actions have brought discredit upon yourself and the Department.”
Sam Aguiar, an attorney for Taylor’s family said the move was overdue.
“It’s about damn time. It should have happened a long time ago, but thankfully it’s at least happening now,” Aguiar said. “This is an officer that’s plagued our streets and made this city worse for over a dozen years. … Let’s hope that this is a start to some good, strong criminal proceedings against Officer Hankison, because he definitely deserves to at least be charged.”…see link
June 19, 2020 at 7:15 pm #116805znModerator🚨🚨Holy smokes —>>
NEW: Never-released report shows number of people killed by police activity in New York City is more than double what was reported.https://t.co/UfRx2ILJVd
— Navy Mom 🆘 🌊 (@USNavyMomPA) June 19, 2020
June 20, 2020 at 1:04 am #116823JackPMillerParticipant- This reply was modified 4 years, 6 months ago by JackPMiller.
June 21, 2020 at 5:26 pm #116932znModeratorSan Antonio Police Chief William McManus fired an officer caught on a body cam calling a handcuffed prisoner the n-word. An arbitrator gave him his job back, @bchasnoff reports
Here’s how the head of the police union defended the officerhttps://t.co/p6hFTcZbs9 @ExpressNews pic.twitter.com/ZlxRqV5dRz
— Joshua Fechter 📝 (@JFreports) June 21, 2020
June 22, 2020 at 11:16 am #116954wvParticipant5️⃣9️⃣6️⃣ Columbus, OH: police pepper spray a double amputee, then *disconnect and take his prosthetic legs*
The man *crawled on his hands* to get medical help while a group of protestors rushed the cops to get his legs back
Today, 21 June 2020
[Reddit: https://t.co/OEK8Nvms43] pic.twitter.com/65ppkbo4dv
— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) June 22, 2020
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