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October 25, 2024 at 10:32 am #152771znModerator
.@RamsNFL offensive line with 2 rookies; Dedich & Limmer….getting it done! Amazing job of coaching by Ryan Wendell. No sacks against this defense? @Kyrenwilliams23 goes for almost a HUN….Game Balls please for the O-Line. #ramshouse #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/HQiCCKjUqm
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 10:41 am #152773znModeratorNever seen @RamsNFL pic.twitter.com/ykTNFo7uom
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 10:49 am #152776znModerator.@RamsNFL blitz pickup v @vikings pressures and blitzes were excellent all night by @Kyrenwilliams23 @blake_corum protecting Stafford. The details never get overlooked in #RamsHouse #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/Mgb5zZPqBh
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 10:53 am #152778znModerator.@rams @AsapPuka Ramms are getting their arsenal back into the lineup…Sure look ready to make a second half surge to me. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/cxd39SXgSV
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 10:57 am #152779znModeratorManti LOVED what he saw from the @RamsNFL with the return of @AsapPuka and @CooperKupp last night 💪#RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/GxisGMTRb4
— Good Morning Football (@gmfb) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 11:01 am #152781znModeratorJared Verse cheats down to 4-tech, steps in clubs/swims the LT big time, then fired down the line
RDT is also head up, Kobie Shaded on center, Brown at 5 tech
Kobie, LDT, also swims his guy, Hoecht sets the left edge
Run defense is TEAM defense pic.twitter.com/i37O3Znir6
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 11:32 am #152784znModeratorThis throw is just stupid. Completely illogical. Makes no sense at all. And Stafford had 4-5 of them. pic.twitter.com/SrSXH8g8CK
— Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 11:35 am #152785znModerator.@rams defend @Vikings @JJettas2 on a critical 3rd & 5+5. The Rams just so prepared on a short week. Coaching matters #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/fcbBcYEsz7
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 11:38 am #152787znModerator.@rams @TurnerKobie @JaredVerse1 defeating blocks at the POA. The only way to become proficient at this is to witk at it. @AlPoodie #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/oICQv1Oe5H
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 12:59 pm #152795ZooeyModerator.@rams v @vikings Braden Fiske with the late spin to move Darnold off his spot…Potential tying TD to Vikings Addison. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/adupyMsHP2
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 2:43 pm #152798znModeratorThe Rams inserted rookie UDFA Justin Dedich into the lineup in Week 7 and he has been playing some ball the last two weeks. I had never heard of him much less watched him prior. It's always one of my favorite things to learn about & shine light on stories like this. pic.twitter.com/H56TivDmSY
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 8:23 pm #152812znModeratorrams second drive: stafford gets drilled after the throw on a perfectly timed / executed vikings stunt, then comes back two plays later and throws a td strike under heavy pressure – dawg. pic.twitter.com/h8G9sLF4Aa
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 25, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 8:25 pm #152813wvParticipantOctober 25, 2024 at 8:28 pm #152815wvParticipantOctober 25, 2024 at 10:20 pm #152818znModeratorWorth a close up … Jared Verse with hand movements to get tackle thinking what's coming, "is it speed? Is it power? Is it a chop, cross chop?, etc"
Verse uses double arrows to get UNDER the LT and lift. Gets hands in armpits
@JoelNINEone pic.twitter.com/YjSOFsZsGT
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) October 26, 2024
October 25, 2024 at 10:32 pm #152819InvaderRamModeratorverse early favorite for droy. turner last year third place finish. nacua runner up oroy last year. some good drafting by the rams.
October 26, 2024 at 12:18 am #152820znModeratorverse early favorite for droy. turner last year third place finish. nacua runner up oroy last year. some good drafting by the rams.
Plus in 2023/24, 4 out of 7 combined 6th rounders are contributing players this season: Ethan Evans, Karty, Limmer, Whittington. Evans may be better than Hekker was.
To understate it a bit, teams don’t usually have a 57% hit rate in round 6.
October 26, 2024 at 4:24 am #152822znModeratorAnatomy of a Play: Matthew Stafford Used His Brain and His Arm for a Major Touchdown Pass
Matthew Stafford of the Rams combines arm talent and football smarts as few quarterbacks ever can, and it burned the Vikings on one big play.Doug Farrar
Now that the Minnesota Vikings have dropped two straight games after a 5-0 start to the season, and Brian Flores’ usually amazing defense has looked far more mortal over that time, there are some who are worried that the rest of the NFL has “figured out” Flores’ petri dishes of evil pass-rush and coverage switches pre- and post-snap, and this team will be a paper tiger from here on out.
In truth, what the losses to the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Rams really showed is that if you want to beat Flores’ defense, you need a quarterback who can read a defense like first-period French in 0.1 seconds, the arm talent to exploit those football smarts, and a chemistry with a play-caller that lets the quarterback play both in and out of structure.
The Vikings just got charred by two of the very few quarterbacks who have all those attributes — Jared Goff in a 31-29 nail-biter on October 20, and Matthew Stafford in Thursday night’s 30-20 Rams win that was uglied up by one of the worst calls you’ll see all season from one of many officiating crews that shouldn’t be allowed to wear stripes to manage third-grade recess.
That debacle aside, the most consequential play of the game may have been Stafford’s 25-yard touchdown pass to receiver DeMarcus Robinson with 2:40 left in the third quarter. The Vikings were up 17-14 at this point, and while there were cracks in Minnesota’s defense against a version of Stafford making effortlessly ridiculous throws all over the field at SoFi Stadium, this may have been the killer.
And it came about from something Stafford said to Robinson in the huddle before the play.
Before this play, the Vikings had played man coverage on just one of Stafford’s 34 passing attempts — this 14-yard in-and-up to Puka Nacua with 13:29 left in the first half.
So it was highly interesting that Stafford had a sense he’d see it again here.
“It was kind of a designed little choice route inside for Cooper [Kupp], but to be honest with you, there’s something that happened in the huddle before the snap,” Stafford said postgame. “I’m like ‘Hey, D-Rob. we may be alive on this,’ and just felt like we might catch man coverage. They’d been doing a bunch of show man, drop [into] zone the whole game, trying to keep it in front of them, and I felt like they might get aggressive there, and they did. And then he did a hell of a job going and making a play. That’s what D-Rob does. He makes plays for us, and when his number was called, he made it tonight.”
Both plays were against Cover-1, and on the Robinson touchdown, it was Josh Metellus as the deep safety as opposed to Cameron Bynum, who was the deep-third guy on the Nacua catch. Metellus is a good overall player, but he’s lined up at free safety on just 37 of his 432 snaps this season, and there are reasons for that. When Stafford saw cornerback Shaquill Griffin pressed up on Robinson with questionable help up top, that probably reinforced his theory.
Rams head coach Sean McVay pointed to the Rams’ ability to deal with the Vikings’ pressure concepts, and a reduced rate of blitzes, as a factor in how Minnesota might have wanted to go for something different on this play.
“Early on, they did it a little bit but they didn’t pressure nearly as much as they had shown on tape,” McVay said of the expected blitz stuff. “I thought Stafford was hot from the jump. They slowed that down and really they didn’t pressure a whole lot in general. They brought the pressure at the end… but for the most part they didn’t do nearly as much as what they had shown. Coach Flores does a great job mixing it up, but I thought we were able to really get run, pass, keep the ball in play. I thought even being able to push the ball down the field because our offensive line was holding up, even if we didn’t hit it, it ended up loosening things up. The big play was DeMarcus Robinson’s touchdown on the go ball down the far sideline. They played a man coverage, caught him right there. I thought Stafford played really well, and I loved his response.”
All the Vikings could do was to tip their collective caps, and move on to next week. Sometimes, no matter how good you are, the guy you’re facing just has a bit more on the ball in the most important moment.
October 26, 2024 at 2:32 pm #152829znModerator“Jab & Go” by @AaronDonald97 & @JaredVerse1. Both jab step before attacking their gap. Donald & Verse reduce their hitting surface, club/swim and work flat down the LOS for the tackle! #RamsHouse
A great concept that works to rush the passer & #StopTheRun pic.twitter.com/hwX0MoGmn9
— DLineVids (@dlinevids1) October 26, 2024
October 29, 2024 at 11:15 pm #152873znModeratorMcVay’s defense should know how to defend a basic outside zone run concept with play-side motion (and they do). Few things:
• Young front looks better each week, YPC decreased as game went on
• Hoecht gets doubled and still makes a play
• One of Bobby Brown III’s best games pic.twitter.com/LkbSPfBGXF— Rams Bros. (@RamsBrothers) October 29, 2024
October 30, 2024 at 10:38 am #152877znModeratorRams running Base Chop (CB 5MPRS) vs. a Vikings condensed formation (21p).
Nice job by Verse (8) to ole the down block & make the play.
He's going to be a problem (along with Fiske) for a long time.
— pic.twitter.com/RPmSf9uJQA— Cody Alexander (@The_Coach_A) October 29, 2024
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