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  • #161317
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    That’s what it looked like to me, too, except for the one angle they showed only once in which it looked like maybe the ball was slipping around before Cooks hit the turf.

    #161318
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    None of those angles are the one I’m talking about. The angle that looked like he may not have had control was from – how do I say this? – from the QB’s angle. Straight up the field. That was the one that looked – on first viewing – like he had an “extra” bobble in there. That’s the shot I want to see again.

    #161321
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    That’s the shot I want to see again.

    If you find it, post it here. I’m curious myself.

    #161322
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    That’s the shot I want to see again.

    If you find it, post it here. I’m curious myself.

    I cannot find it. I’ve been looking. It was AFTER the clip you have, and that clip is common,the one up to the ruling. But after that, once play resumed, they revisited it with 3 or 4 more clips, all but one of which we had seen before, but the first one was straight up the gut. They showed it only one time. That’s the one I want to see again a couple times. And I haven’t found it. It’ll turn up eventually, I think.

    #161323
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    Okay. Here we go. This clip from reddit has the entire sequence. After the review, they come back and show the replays again. At about 1:25, you see the angle I’m talking about.

    I’ve watched it a few times now, and I don’t think it is conclusive. But I think this angle makes it more INCONCLUSIVE, if that makes sense. From this angle, it appears to me that Cooks does get control, but not with the kind of “follow through” or “complete” control that one looks for in this case. I guess I’m saying that THIS angle makes me think that there isn’t enough there to overturn the referee’s ruling.

    [Highlight] McMillan rips the ball away from Brandin Cooks (replays)
    byu/Large_banana_hammock innfl

    #161324
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    Okay. Here we go.

    Thanks. All I can see is that it’s a contested catch while Cooks is going down cause the DB has a hand on it, which means the DB ripping it away makes it an INT.

    The Witherspoon example was much more clearcut. But this one seems like it’s still a viable INT call.

    Now find the clip of Caesar instructing his infrantry how to handle a flank attack from Pompey’s cavalry at the Battle of Pharsalus. The clip where Caesar says “I say, enh, outnumbered outshumbered.” Except not in English (“in mea sententia, enh, numero superati shumero superati”).

    #161325
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    Seahawks get 41 points — on 281 yards of total offense. Darnold had 124 yards passing on 12 for 17.
    Time of possession was 31 to 28.

    3 Turnovers for SF. Zero for seattle.

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    #161326
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    Yeah, Cooks aint gonna make many contested catches. I thought it was a good call, based on how the rules are inter-pre-tated theze days.

    didn’t ahkello witherspoon get an int on a similar play?

    seahawks look good.

    I dont remember the ahkello play, but i do remember why Brandon Cooks has been jettisoned by so many teams — good dude, tries hard, good team-mate, lots of speed, but the guy just doesnt make plays in traffic very often. Plays very small.

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    #161327
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    I dont remember the ahkello play,

    It’s in the thread in you’re interested. I put up a vid containing that play.

    I agree about Cooks. He is kind of an anti-Nacua, his negative mirror image.

    #161328
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    So, the 49ers have all these injuries, but are they all coming back next year? Are they gonna be a force next year?

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    #161330
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    #161332
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    What a strange emotional-swing for Denver fans. To find out ten minutes AFTER the huge emotional playoff win, that your star QB is done for the year. I cant remember anything quite like it. Its not like the Trent Green thing.

    Jarrett Stidham. 6’3″ 215 lbs. Played for Auburn in 2018. 4th Rd pick for New England in 2019. Backed up Brady.
    Traded to Raiders. First NFL start he threw for 365 yards. 3 TDs, 2 INTs.

    Career NFL stats: 8 TDs, 8 INTs. 78 QB rating.

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    #161333
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    So, the 49ers have all these injuries, but are they all coming back next year? Are they gonna be a force next year?

    I’m afraid I have to think that the answer to that is yes.

    They were a force this year with a staggering number of injuries to key players. And while I don’t watch them much at all outside Rams games, I do peek at them from time-to-time, and I hear a few samples of what the local radio sports dudes say when I’m in the car, and I just don’t think there was much “fluke” in their record this year. At some point you have to acknowledge that they aren’t over-achieving. You can’t simply win 12 games in the NFL, even against a last-place schedule, unless you’re really pretty good. That defense got the job done again and again without its 2 All-Pro players in Bosa and Warner, and without its #1 draft pick DL Mykal Williams. And the offense go the job done again and again without Trent Williams, Brock Purdy, Brandon Aiyuk, Ricky Pearsall, and George Kittle for some/most/all of the season.

    Christian McCaffrey played all season, though. I think he’s their MVP. In fact, there’s no doubt in my mind. McCaffrey is crucial to their offense. He put up HOF production levels this year, actually. I think he would be a slam dunk HOF guy if it weren’t for his injury history. He’s been hurt a lot, and the RB position has a short shelf life, as we all know. He’s played 9 years, although 3 of those were mostly washed out with injuries. Still, he has had 6 full seasons in which he’s stayed healthy, and he is clearly a force when he does so. He showed no signs of diminished or fading play this year, so I’m expecting him to be every bit as good next year.

    All of those guys will be ready to go in camp (except Aiyuk, who’s divorce from SF is inevitable). Trent Williams and Nick Bosa are the only two who will possibly be diminished players, but since they are both elite at their positions, being diminished is still better than most guys at their positions. And any hope that Brock Purdy was a lucky beginner whose shortcomings would be exposed is gone. The 9ers redeemed themselves from the Trey Lance disaster by getting a borderline pro bowl QB with the last pick in the draft. He’s going to be in SF for a long, long time.

    And how well they played this season is a reflection of outstanding coaching. They could well lose Salah, but it starts at the top. Shanahan is every bit as capable of managing an ongoing influx of coaches as McVay is. Both of these guys have replaced many coordinators in the 9 years they’ve been in the league, and I don’t think either one has failed to find a solid replacement. Shanahan was starting to have a few skeptics among the fan base after last year, but he’s put all that to rest by giving the fans here a very memorable season when they were completely demoralized after Bosa, then Warner were lost. They resigned themselves to a second consecutive miserable season, and Shanahan had them believing they could go all the way by the end, and with Kittle’s injury just adding an exclamation point to their season, the 49er faithful is pretty damn happy with this season, and will be all on board next year. And John Lynch has been a pretty good general manager. Their drafts have been pretty good, although their last 2 first round picks have been hurt a lot, and haven’t made waves. Yet.

    The 49ers are a really good football team, and they are going to be a problem next year. A big problem.

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    #161335
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    The 49ers are a really good football team, and they are going to be a problem next year. A big problem.

    Rams too.

    Seattle too.

    If anything this level of competitive rivalry might force McVay to be less complacent about some things, like not coming out of camp with problems on special teams, and not relying exclusively on inexpensive veterans at CB while also drafting poorly at CB.

    Rams made real efforts to address all the weaknesses that got exposed in last year’s Eagles playoff game. Run defense, OL (especially center), not really having a 2nd receiver, slow starts, not scoring in the 1st quarter (they were 30th last year). Now time for a new set of “fixes.” That;s whether they keep winning in this postseason or not. Even if they win it all, the danger represented by both SF and Seattle won’t allow complacent thinking, and stuff like “hey let’s draft a small fast guy at receiver in round 2, that would be a nice luxury.”

    #161337
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    That play is at 2:01 in this vid. The difference is, AW had his hands on the ball too before the receiver fell, so it was a contested catch before AW grabbed control of it when they went down. In the Bills game, Cooks went down with the ball, uncontested, and then it got taken out of his hands.

    i don’t know. they look almost identical to me.

    #161338
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    That play is at 2:01 in this vid. The difference is, AW had his hands on the ball too before the receiver fell, so it was a contested catch before AW grabbed control of it when they went down. In the Bills game, Cooks went down with the ball, uncontested, and then it got taken out of his hands.

    i don’t know. they look almost identical to me.

    I actually changed my mind when I saw the vid Zooey put up.

    #161339
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    I’m afraid I have to think that the answer to that is yes.

    …The 49ers are a really good football team, and they are going to be a problem next year. A big problem.

    Yeah, I think Seattle, LA, and SF might ALL be a little better next year. Picture ‘that.’

    It makes the no.1 seed so critical. When all three teams are so close, it makes all the difference to get the bye and ‘not have to go to Chicago’ etc.

    I cant remember McVay ever having this kind of year with special teams. I know they will focus on it in the offseason but I dont even know what the problem is. Just bad personnel decisions? Bad special teams players? Need bigger, faster, tougher guys? I dunno.

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    #161340
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    Yeah, I think Seattle, LA, and SF might ALL be a little better next year. Picture ‘that.’

    Yep.

    AFAIK, none of the 3 teams are facing significant FA loss or attrition through retirement. So they all figure to be a year more experienced, and replenished with off season acquisitions.

    If the Eagles and Lions rebound, and the Bears fix their defense, it’s gonna be a spectacle.

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    #161343
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    That play is at 2:01 in this vid. The difference is, AW had his hands on the ball too before the receiver fell, so it was a contested catch before AW grabbed control of it when they went down. In the Bills game, Cooks went down with the ball, uncontested, and then it got taken out of his hands.

    i don’t know. they look almost identical to me.

    I actually changed my mind when I saw the vid Zooey put up.

    #161344
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    AFAIK, none of the 3 teams are facing significant FA loss or attrition through retirement. So they all figure to be a year more experienced, and replenished with off season acquisitions.

    i don’t know either, but la and seattle will also both be in excellent cap shape.

    #161353
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    neither stroud nor maye are taking care of the ball. patriots are just getting luckier.

    #161354
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    neither stroud nor maye are taking care of the ball. patriots are just getting luckier.

    Stroud has looked abysmal for two playoff weeks now. His QB Rating is 27 at halftime.

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    #161356
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    i don’t know either, but la and seattle will also both be in excellent cap shape.

    The Rams issue will be that they hit on so many players in the 2023 draft, and they can’t keep them all. And all of them are FAs after the 2026 season.

    In terms of cap space…

    In 2026 (so far)

    Seattle has 71.8 M
    the Rams have 46.5 M
    SF has 29.8

    Rams can increase cap space by a bit (7.5 M) by letting Darious Wms. walk.

    In 2027, right now, they have 179.3 M. (That’s 2nd in the league…but w/ no Stafford under contact). Anyway that will get eaten up fast, with not just (possibly) the qb to pay, but their own FAs from 2023.

    #161357
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    Just checked stats on the AFC game.

    Texans still in it even though Stroud has 4 INTs. Houston also lost a fumble. 5 giveways for the boys from Texas.

    Stroud has less than 50% on completions.

    The Pats fumbled 4 times and lost 2. Maye has 1 INT. So that’s 3 for them.

    Maye was sacked 5 times. So with him, it’s 1 INT, 2 lost fumbles, and 5 sacks. 95 yards passing at the end of the 3rd.

    Neither team can run the ball.

    #161486
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    I’m afraid I have to think that the answer to that is yes.

    …The 49ers are a really good football team, and they are going to be a problem next year. A big problem.

    Yeah, I think Seattle, LA, and SF might ALL be a little better next year. Picture ‘that.’

    It makes the no.1 seed so critical. When all three teams are so close, it makes all the difference to get the bye and ‘not have to go to Chicago’ etc.

    I cant remember McVay ever having this kind of year with special teams. I know they will focus on it in the offseason but I dont even know what the problem is. Just bad personnel decisions? Bad special teams players? Need bigger, faster, tougher guys? I dunno.

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    Footnote to this: the Bears’ offense is set. It’s young, under contract, and going to improve. They actually have a surplus at WR and could trade one. They need an Edge, a rangey LB, and a really good CB. That’s all doable this off season.

    #161488
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    Footnote to this: the Bears’ offense is set. It’s young, under contract, and going to improve. They actually have a surplus at WR and could trade one. They need an Edge, a rangey LB, and a really good CB. That’s all doable this off season.

    Yeah the Bears fans should have a fun team for years to come.

    I for one will be rooting for the Cardinals. I want all four NFC West teams to make the playoffs next year.

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    #161490
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    Footnote to this: the Bears’ offense is set. It’s young, under contract, and going to improve.

    Yeah the Bears fans should have a fun team for years to come.

    Yes. It’s time for the Rams to institute their plan to “Josh Allen” Caleb Williams.

    I know this plan, it’s diabolical. It will lead to a massacre of successive head coaches who “can’t turn the corner.”

    Bwa-ha-ha. Evil grin.

    #161491
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    Yes. It’s time for the Rams to institute their plan to “Josh Allen” Caleb Williams.

    I know this plan, it’s diabolical. It will lead to a massacre of successive head coaches who “can’t turn the corner.”

    Bwa-ha-ha. Evil grin.

    I sometimes watch USC. When they are relevant. And they were relevant when Caleb Williams was there, so I saw a handful of games, and I thought he was an NFL QB.

    Then… last year he seemed lost. Or so I heard, since I didn’t watch the Bears play any. And I just thought, well… Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, Sam Darnold… all these USC guys looked like good QBs, and then evaporated in the Pros (*Darnold may be reborn…judgment pending).

    Watching Caleb Williams in his two playoff games. My goodness. Better than he was at USC. With Ben Johnson? With another camp under Johnson, Caleb Williams might just wreck the NFC. He has EVERYTHING except experience.

    The Josh Allen plan is the only available kryptonite. Or the Rams could trade Jared Goff and a couple of the Lions’ first round picks for him.

    #161494
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    Or the Rams could trade Jared Goff and a couple of the Lions’ first round picks for him.

    If they’re serious they should trade BOTH Goff and Bradford for him.

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