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  • #21902
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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/

    31. St Louis Rams (13th)

    Pass Blocking Ranking: 30th, Run Blocking Ranking: 28th, Penalties Ranking: 28th

    Stud: It doesn’t feel right to crown any player with a stud, with every lineman earning a negative grade. Rodger Saffold was the best of a bad bunch despite a shoulder injury.

    Dud: It might be the end of the road for Scott Wells who was terrible in pass protection. You don’t see centers give up that much pressure that often.

    Breakdown: Yuck. Given the investments the team has made this was something of a stunner. Jake Long went down, after a strong start the play of Joseph Barksdale fell off a cliff and Davin Joseph played exactly as you’d expect him to (not well). Then there was Greg Robinson who looked lost as the line tried to find a role for him. Will he be better in 2015 now the team has committed to him at left tackle?

    #21903
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    Dang.

    #21904
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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/

    31. St Louis Rams (13th)

    Pass Blocking Ranking: 30th, Run Blocking Ranking: 28th, Penalties Ranking: 28th

    Stud: It doesn’t feel right to crown any player with a stud, with every lineman earning a negative grade. Rodger Saffold was the best of a bad bunch despite a shoulder injury.

    Dud: It might be the end of the road for Scott Wells who was terrible in pass protection. You don’t see centers give up that much pressure that often.

    Breakdown: Yuck. Given the investments the team has made this was something of a stunner. Jake Long went down, after a strong start the play of Joseph Barksdale fell off a cliff and Davin Joseph played exactly as you’d expect him to (not well). Then there was Greg Robinson who looked lost as the line tried to find a role for him. Will he be better in 2015 now the team has committed to him at left tackle?

    I am going to nitpick that without generally disagreeing with the grade.

    * Wells. Played poorly. Worse, he played poorly at least in part because he had a bad year in health terms too…but then so did every Rams center. They even converted Person to center as an emergency back-up. I assume the Rams just figured a beat-up Wells was still better than any alternatives, since you generally don’t acquire a valid starting center after the season starts (think how much such a guy would have to learn before being able to play and make line calls) and, as said, everyone else they had got banged up and could not play. (Though ironically he was having a decent game against the Chiefs before leaving with injuries that wrecked the rest of the year for him.)

    * Robinson. Learning curve.

    * Saffold. Injured.

    The big disappointment was Joseph, who really only had one good game (Denver). But then, he wasn’t supposed to start, and the Rams have gotten by with a succession of weak guards after losing Dahl—Chris Williams was part of a okay line in 2013 PFF ranked 13th. IMO the fact that everyone to the left of him was struggling (Robinson) and/or hurt (Saffold and Wells, and Robinson had surgery after the season) just made his problems stand out more (Williams in 2013 and Joseph in 2014 are not graded that far apart).

    I can see why they had a trade set up to jump back in round 1 and take Martin, until Dalls grabbed him.

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    #21910
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    I still don’t believe that rumor. Dallas said they were looking for a trade. Anyway, that would have cost us last years 2 and at least this years 1. That is too much to trade up. imo This year we can have a choice of two players I like just as good as Martin, Collins and Scherff.

    Agamemnon

    #21936
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    A little harsh on Robinson.

    #21942
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    I have taken a solemn vow
    not to post or say anything more about the “O word”
    until the Draft.

    The season hinges on Snisher’s handling
    of that there Unit.

    Carry on,
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    #21946
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    Don’t worry, Blalock and Joseph will be there after the draft and we are already talking to potential UDFAs.

    Agamemnon

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    Time to scout some sumo wrestlers.

    sumo

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #22127
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    I still don’t believe that rumor. Dallas said they were looking for a trade. Anyway, that would have cost us last years 2 and at least this years 1. That is too much to trade up. imo This year we can have a choice of two players I like just as good as Martin, Collins and Scherff.

    http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/05/cowboys-wanted-ryan-shazier-whose-agent-was-on-the-phone-with-dallas-when-steelers-drafted-him.html/

    Cowboys wanted Ryan Shazier, whose agent was on the phone with Dallas when Steelers drafted him
    Jon Machota Email jmachota@dallasnews.com
    Published: May 11, 2014 6:51 pm

    Ohio State linebacker Ryan Shazier poses for photos upon arriving for the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft at Radio City Music Hall, Thursday, May 8, 2014, in New York. (AP Photo/Craig Ruttle)

    There were some nervous faces in the Valley Ranch draft room Thursday night while the Dallas Cowboys were on the clock.

    With the 16th overall pick, the Cowboys were focused on improving their defense with either UCLA pass rusher Anthony Barr, Pittsburgh tackle Aaron Donald or Ohio State linebacker Ryan Shazier.

    Barr went ninth to Minnesota and Donald was drafted by St. Louis at 13.

    Shazier looked to be on his way to the Cowboys as the weakside linebacker’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, was on the phone with Dallas, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    But Pittsburgh snatched up the speedy 6-1, 237-pound linebacker one pick ahead of the Cowboys, which explains the tense moments that were captured by the team’s draft room camera.

    “I’m in the middle of writing a text that Dallas is going to take him and the phone rings and it’s the Steelers,” Ryan’s father, Vernon Shazier, told the Post-Gazette. “Good thing I didn’t send out that text.”

    The Cowboys front office was forced to scramble while on the clock, looking to trade back before eventually selecting Notre Dame offensive lineman Zack Martin.

    Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Martin had the same grade as the other three players, but it appears that adding Shazier was their preference.

    Agamemnon

    #22134
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    Both Scherff and Collins compare favorably to Martin, especially in the Rams scheme. imo

    At least according to these profiles.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoAgamemnon.

    Agamemnon

    #22136
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    from off the net

    rwillinnable

    I have the NFL package and watch most every game. I focused on Robinson often. Last season I saw an outrageously talented and strong kid who if he got his hands on someone, he just dominated them. By outrageously, I mean physically he is a freak. His strength and athleticism are cartoonish at times. If he uses proper technique, he can’t be beat. But too many times his technique is poor and I saw him on more than one occasion get confused about who he was supposed to block.

    I recognize that he should’ve been a junior at Auburn last year and he had zero experience in a pro style offense, but I’m really hoping we see some technical and awareness improvement this season because physically, the sky is the limit.

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