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  • #161712
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    The fumbled punt killed them.

    Some great Rams drives in that game though.

    #161713
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    muffed punt.

    and the rams d made darnold look like matt stafford.

    #161714
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    Special teams and the secondary. The Rams did well to get this far and keep the game close. I hope that Stafford returns for one more year.

    #161716
    Hram
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    Well

    Poo

    #161717
    Avatar photojoemad
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    Close game… … the sequences before halftime and the punt fumble killed them…..You can’t do that in close games like that…

    #161720
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    The fumbled punt was bad this defense is worse, they just can’t play a fuil 60 mins
    And maintain a reasonable level of intensity

    #161722
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    Ah well. Seattle’s year.

    This team will mostly stay together, i would think. So will Seattle.

    We look to the draft 🙂

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    #161725
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    Muffed punt was terrible, but ultimately the defense’s inability to bother Darnold cost them the game.

    This Rams offense is outstanding though. I think their best ever. Maybe not as prolific as the GSOT, but it’s more reliable. More resilient. Better under adverse conditions. That’s mostly Stafford.

    #161726
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    I hope Seattle obliterates New England.

    Sigh. Its hard to get back to the final 4. The Rams will be one of the favorites next year, along with Chicago, Philly, Green-Bay, Detroit, Seattle, SanFran. So tough to get back. Hard to count on that X-factor — Health.

    I’d love to know the plan. Who they let go. Who they target. Probly be Havenstein’s last game as a ram.

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    #161727
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    I hope Seattle obliterates New England.

    Sigh. Its hard to get back to the final 4. The Rams will be one of the favorites next year, along with Chicago, Philly, Green-Bay, Detroit, Seattle, SanFran. So tough to get back. Hard to count on that X-factor — Health.

    I’d love to know the plan. Who they let go. Who they target. Probly be Havenstein’s last game as a ram.

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    Havenstein and Higbee are both probably gone. Also Witherspoon would be my guess.

    Tutu too, I would think.

    #161728
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    One gigantic turnover by the Rams. Zero turnovers by the Seahawks. The Unsportsmanlike penalty came close to balancing that, though. Xavier Smith probably Jaquiski Tartted himself out of the league.

    It was close. It was always going to be close. If it was a Best of Seven series, it would go 7 games.

    I’m bummed because this looked like the best chance the Rams have had since their last SB, and it was a pretty good chance, as far as chances go. I think losing home field advantage on that fluke loss in Seattle is the difference in the season outcome.

    Next year looks like there will be a lot of really good teams, and to be in it, the Rams are going to need a second straight season of avoiding injuries. And a shutdown CB, and another WR.

    #161730
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    … Xavier Smith probably Jaquiski Tartted himself out of the league.

    Remember the Az Hakim fumble? Whats the opposite of ‘Pantheon’ — Hakim and Xavier are in it.

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    #161756
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    We look to the draft

    it’s time they start investing heavily in defense. and by proxy special teams. defensive backs. a return specialist. maybe even make a splash in free agency. if possible.

    #161758
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    . maybe even make a splash in free agency. if possible.

    I doubt they can. I mean, of course I don’t know what they will do, but they do face this situation–all the 2023 draft picks are on their final year in 2026, and it’s a lot of them. They don’t have the cap space to sign all of their own guys as it is. We’re talking Avilla, Young, Turner, McClendon, and Nacua. Along with some guys like Bennett, Allen, Ethan Evans, and Desjuan Wms.

    #161761
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    As others have mentioned, that muffed punt did them in. But I’d say their coverage was poor in the secondary, and they didn’t pressure Darnold nearly enough. Gotta find a corner or two in the draft and/or FA. They can upgrade linebacker too. Never should have traded Ernest Jones.

    Agreed with those who say the Rams will be contenders to get back to the final four, next year at least. But the competition will be severe. But if Stafford decides to retire, all bets are off.

    #161762
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    . They can upgrade linebacker too. Never should have traded Ernest Jones.

    I think the issue at LB was Young playing on a bad knee with limited snaps. Young was the Darnold nemesis. In previous games, whenever Darnold escaped the pocket, Young would run him down–Young is very fast for a guy his size. With everyone else, Darnold could make a throw or throw it away. Young, with his exceptional speed, got to him and unsettled him…he just couldn’t handle Young’s speed. This game Young didn’t play as much and was clearly a bit banged up and less effective than he usually was.

    Stafford was sacked 1 time. Darnold was sacked 3. But the days where they had him shaken came from having Young running him down when he went outside the pocket right or left behind the LOS.

    #161763
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    I think the issue at LB was Young playing on a bad knee with limited snaps.

    i was thinking the same thing. young was clearly not himself.

    #161786
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    Mistakes in the playoffs are killers.

    #161787
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    So many playoff games come down to one big play. Without a dominant team in the NFL these days, you have about ten teams that are within one or two plays of each other. Razor thin room for errors.

    Collinsworth still cant watch this one.

    #161789
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    They can upgrade linebacker too. Never should have traded Ernest Jones.

    so landman gets a 3 year 22 million contract. jones gets a 3 year 33 million contract. they gave tutu a one year 10 million contract. and he’s inactive for the nfc championship.

    weren’t they better off just giving jones the three year contract? or was he asking for more at the time?

    they don’t usually make mistakes, but this time they did.

    #161790
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    so landman gets a 3 year 22 million contract. jones gets a 3 year 33 million contract. they gave tutu a one year 10 million contract. and he’s inactive for the nfc championship.

    weren’t they better off just giving jones the three year contract? or was he asking for more at the time?

    they don’t usually make mistakes, but this time they did.

    Not sure Seattle wins without Kupp and E.Jones.

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    #161792
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    so landman gets a 3 year 22 million contract. jones gets a 3 year 33 million contract. they gave tutu a one year 10 million contract. and he’s inactive for the nfc championship.

    weren’t they better off just giving jones the three year contract? or was he asking for more at the time?

    they don’t usually make mistakes, but this time they did.

    Not sure Seattle wins without Kupp and E.Jones.

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    I always saw Jones as a “team culture” issue. Someone–McVay, most likely, but maybe also Snead and Demoff if not both–didn’t appreciate his conduct, which I saw as complaining in public that the team wouldn’t extend him. They rewarded Landman for being a Rams-style team leader, whereas Jones is more of an edgy guy.

    IMO? Jones would have made no difference. Same with Kupp. The Rams lost their opportunity when special teams undermined some games, and then that was pretty quickly followed (if memory serves) by the CBs getting undermined by injuries. Durant was pretty good but he needs to play opposite of someone better than Williams. In the end neither of the 2 projected CB starters from the summer were playing.

    Special teams won’t be a hard fix. It’s already mostly fixed, except they need a returner.

    They also need CBs, obviously, and they don’t have the cap space (looks like) for a FA or a trade. But you can fix that by drafting. Plus, in fact, the Rams do tend to make something out of veteran pick-ups at CB, but this time that needs to be woven in with draft picks. McReary may be a keeper. Don’t know if they can or will sign Durant.

    So at this point, because it got down to the returner, STs is also really a WR issue. Whittington was too beat up all year, Atwell too expendable, Smith is not good enough, and Mumpfield was a rookie (he couldn’t come through when needed in the championship game).

    They have possibly 10 picks if the projections about compensatory picks is right. 2 1s, a 2, 3, 5, 2 6s, & maybe 3 7s. The 3 7s look like trade-up fodder so it will likely be fewer that 10? Unless they trade down with the Atlanta 1. Of course they could do both.

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