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    Hey, Troy. Robert Woods went for a 6th.

    But – you know – go play your ass off.

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    Hey, Troy. Robert Woods went for a 6th. But – you know – go play your ass off.

    And that pissed me off.

    Super Bowl victory, etc. etc. Amazingly kewl, and so on. But the Rams really are bad when it comes to draft compensation for their players. They tend to offer far too much for others, and accept far too little for the guys they trade.

    That really needs to stop. Cuz their “window” for victory will disappear quickly if it doesn’t, and I want them to have a shot at it all for many years to come. That’s not likely if they continue to throw away their picks.

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    Hey, Troy. Robert Woods went for a 6th. But – you know – go play your ass off.

    And that pissed me off. Super Bowl victory, etc. etc. Amazingly kewl, and so on. But the Rams really are bad when it comes to draft compensation for their players. They tend to offer far too much for others, and accept far too little for the guys they trade. That really needs to stop. Cuz their “window” for victory will disappear quickly if it doesn’t, and I want them to have a shot at it all for many years to come. That’s not likely if they continue to throw away their picks.

    I just took the Woods trade as the Rams letting RW pick the team he went to (out of possible trade partners). The Titans were his pick, they only offered a 6th, Rams said okay out of respect to Woods.

    They are drafting so well so far in the lower rounds that they can constantly surround their cap-heavy, paid-for stars with a solid cast. That’s all they need to do to keep winning, as long as they have their handful of stars.

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    I just took the Woods trade as the Rams letting RW pick the team he went to (out of possible trade partners). The Titans were his pick, they only offered a 6th, Rams said okay out of respect to Woods. They are drafting so well so far in the lower rounds that they can constantly surround their cap-heavy, paid-for stars with a solid cast. That’s all they need to do to keep winning, as long as they have their handful of stars.

     

    I understand that take. But I doubt Woods had only one team on his list, and it’s actually an insult to him that he went for a 6th. That doesn’t speak well of the way the Titans valued him, either.

    To me, a far better way to go would have been to keep him — he didn’t want to leave the Rams — if they couldn’t get decent compensation. Keep him on board. That shows him a great deal more respect than giving him away to another team for peanuts.

    Main thing for me is this: The Rams should put the best interests of the team first, even above the wishes of individual players, especially when it’s a matter of 31 possible choices for a new destination. That doesn’t strike me as anything that actually boils down to “respect.” That’s an address, not an issue of morality, ethics, or the humane. There were 30 other possibilities, and Woods was born and raised in Cali. Does Woods really see Tennessee as the only other possible choice? And if he did, does that mean the Rams should have handicapped themselves, hurt their own compensation returns, just to go with geographical wishes?

    IMO, no. No way. The Rams actually owe the remaining players on the team and their fans better. Max out on the trade — for the Rams. Or just keep Woods.

    My take, anyway.

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    Treating players right on the way out likely has the 2nd order effect of helping convince FAs to sign in the first place.

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    Treating players right on the way out likely has the 2nd order effect of helping convince FAs to sign in the first place.

     

    Agreed. It’s very important. But letting Woods choose his destination is only one very small aspect among many. It’s not the standard measure for respect or disrespect, fair treatment or foul. There were countless other things the Rams could have done to show respect, treat him well, make it clear how much they cared about him — and still receive decent compensation. I doubt Woods thought that Tennessee or bust was the ONLY way the Rams could do all of that.

    If I’m the GM, I definitely listen to the player’s wishes, with compassion and respect. But I’m going to weigh and balance them with the best interests of the team. I’m going to field offers from every team, and get the most comp possible. If the interests of the player and my team sync up, great. That’s fantastic. And I’ll work to make that happen. If they diverge, I’m gonna go with my team first. I’ll find other ways to send him off in style.

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    Troy hill had 1…….. 1 pass deflection with the browns in 2021 but with the rams in 2020 he had 10 and 3 ints.
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    Troy hill had 1…….. 1 pass deflection with the browns in 2021 but with the rams in 2020 he had 10 and 3 ints.

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    How does one account for that?   Injury? Scheme?  Aaron Donald?

     

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    #139017
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    How does one account for that?   Injury? Scheme?  Aaron Donald?

     

    My bet? Coaching/system.

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