Ogletree and O'dell

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  • December 23, 2014 at 3:57 pm #14603
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    …I watched the O vs O thing during the game,
    and it sure looked to me like Ogletree hit O’dell
    WAY out of bounds. Now Fisher sez O’dell was
    pulling on Ogletree’s facemask before they got
    out of bounds or right on the sideline. Yes?
    Did i hear that right?

    Fisher’s version dont look like what I
    remember. Anybody think Fisher has a point?

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    December 23, 2014 at 4:42 pm #14607
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    from off the net

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2307036-giants-rams-brawl-after-late-hit-on-odell-beckham-jr

    ajhahn

    At exactly 1:16 on the bleacher report embeded video [above] you can clearly see Beckham turn and grab Ogletree by the facemask on his way out of bounds.

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    I know this doesn’t excuse the teams extreme lack of discipline, but Jeff Fisher is the only person I’ve seen talk about this.

    Ogletree initially hit Beckham in bounds, then about a yard out, Beckham grabs his mask and Ogletree goes down on him. Then Beckham takes a swipe at Olgetree’s head. Then Olgetree shoves him down. Then Beckham kicks Ogletree. Then the fight breaks out.

    Again, the Rams cannot lose their cool that easily, but it was not a late or dirty hit. The only dirty player on that particular play was Beckham.

    December 23, 2014 at 5:18 pm #14611
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    Seems pretty clear that Beckham has his hand on his face mask. Also pretty clear that Beckham kicked Ogletree as well. A couple of Giants jumped Ogletree and then all hell breaks loose. Lots of blame to go around. It’s been interesting to read the various reactions to this incident.

    December 23, 2014 at 5:40 pm #14613
    Dak
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    I can’t tell anything from that photo. Could be he’s trying to push ‘Tree off of him. It’s really far out of bounds. I’d have to see a replay from a different angle.

    I’m a little surprised that Ogletree and/or Beckham didn’t get ejected on that play.

    December 23, 2014 at 7:41 pm #14626
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    from off the net

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    Ramfan Teacher

    I rewatched it several times and saw:

    1. AO with the tackle in bounds but continued to drive with his feet several steps out of bounds (which was unnecessary) and then put OBJ to the ground. He could have pulled up and just held him but didnt (this is my opinion). Watch Hayes just get out of the way instead of joining in on the tackle with AO.

    2. OBJ hit AO in his facemask (with the ball I believe)

    3. AO hit OBJ back in his facemask

    I wasn’t condoning it. I just wanted everyone to know that the vine video doesn’t really show OBJ hit AO in the facemask after the tackle (you can kind of see it on the AO tackle).

    Retaliation would be in the “eye of the beholder”. If someone feels AO’s tackle was legit, then AO just retaliated to OBJ. If AO went overboard on the tackle, then OBJ retaliated to AO being a punk.

    Like I said, I feel they both acted like “punks”

    December 24, 2014 at 7:16 am #14644
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    Well to me, OBJ is just defending himself.
    Ogletree is hitting him OUT OF BOUNDS.
    Why ‘wouldnt’ OBJ grab Ogletree’s facemask at THAT point?

    I mean, where is the FIRST infraction? — Ogletree continuing
    to hit OBJ out of bounds.

    Its irrelevant that Ogletree ‘started’ to hit OBJ
    inbounds — the problem was Ogletree CONTINUED
    to hit OBJ out of bounds.

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    December 25, 2014 at 7:46 pm #14717
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    Odell Beckham picks up $10,000 fine

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/25/odell-beckham-picks-up-10000-fine/

    by Josh Alper

    Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham has notched a lot of firsts during his rookie season, but not all of them are positives.

    On the other side of the ledger is Beckham’s first fine as an NFL player. Giants players have received word from the league about fines levied for their behavior during a chaotic game with the Rams that featured three ejections after a brawl on the sideline.

    Beckham was hit late by Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree to touch off that brawl and he’s been fined $10,000 for kicking at Ogletree when Ogletree was on the ground after the tackle. Ogletree was penalized for a late hit, but said Wednesday that he hasn’t heard from the league about a fine.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher said that he thought Giants kicker Josh Brown should have been ejected for kicking at a Rams player, but he was penalized and fined $8,200 instead. Brown said, via the Associated Press, that he plans to appeal.

    Defensive end Damontre Moore joined wide receiver Preston Parker with a $15,000 fin eafter getting ejected for throwing punches during the melee and long snapper Zak DeOssiewas fined for a late hit. With defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins also picking up a fine for roughing the passer, Giants players wound up handing over more than $72,000 for their actions in a game that saw players on both teams lose control of themselves far too often.

    December 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm #14829
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    put off watching highlights of this game cuz it just hurt too much. but i just saw a clip on nfl network.

    depending on the angle it actually looks like odell starts pulling ogletree’s mask BEFORE they go out of bounds dragging him out of bounds.

    of course i could be biased.

    starting at 1:25
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/st-louis-rams/0ap3000000447410/Giants-Rams-scrum-spills-over-onto-sideline

    December 28, 2014 at 12:58 pm #14830
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    put off watching highlights of this game cuz it just hurt too much. but i just saw a clip on nfl network.

    depending on the angle it actually looks like odell starts pulling ogletree’s mask BEFORE they go out of bounds dragging him out of bounds.

    of course i could be biased.

    starting at 1:25

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/st-louis-rams/0ap3000000447410/Giants-Rams-scrum-spills-over-onto-sideline” rel=”nofollow”>http://www.nfl.com/videos/st-louis-rams/0ap3000000447410/Giants-Rams-scrum-spills-over-onto-sideline

    That;s the clearest view yet. Watch the whole vid (for those who haven’t seen it yet: this one has different angles on it).

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