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  • #21765
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    I had to edit it nonetheless. I said those are predictions when I meant those are not predictions.

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    I knew you were going to edit it :)

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    Tricked you. I never edited anything. I only said that so you would (predictably) say THAT.

    It’s snowing here btw.

    I learned something about woodpiles this year. And me, an old vet.

    What you’re supposed to do is reduce the stack from one end to the other. Like this:

    Original, all stacked in August:

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    How you’re supposed to reduce it:

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    The way I did it was to take layers off:

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    Problem is, when you get down to THIS

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    And it snows A LOT, you can’t get the ice and snow off the tarp covering the wood, not without a lot of work. The ice and snow were more than 3 feet deep on top of the wood.

    Amateur mistake.

    Won’t happen again.

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    #21769
    Avatar photowv
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    Problem is, when you get down to THIS
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    And it snows A LOT, you can’t get the ice and snow off the tarp covering the wood, not without a lot of work. The ice and snow were more than 3 feet deep on top of the wood.

    Amateur mistake.
    Won’t happen again.

    Good post. Excellent work.

    Fire tip number 2 — Dont build a fire under a tree full of snow.

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    “As usual, Junko thought about Jack London’s ‘To Build a Fire.’ It was the story of a man traveling alone through the snowy Alaskan interior and his attempts to light a fire. He would freeze to death unless he could make it catch. The sun was going down. Junko hadn’t read much fiction, but that one short story she had read again and again, ever since her teacher had assigned it as an essay topic during summer vacation of her first year in high school. The scene of the story would always come vividly to mind as she read. She could feel the man’s fear and hope and despair as if they were her own; she could sense the very pounding of his heart as he hovered on the brink of death. Most important of all, though, was the fact that the man was fundamentally longing for death. She knew that for sure. She couldn’t explain how she knew, but she knew it from the start. Death was really what he wanted. He knew that it was the right ending for him. And yet he had to go on fighting with all his might. He had to fight against an overwhelming adversary in order to survive. What most shook Junko was this deep-rooted contradiction.
    The teacher ridiculed her view. ‘Death is really what he wanted? That’s a new one for me! And strange! Quite ‘original,’ I’d have to say.’ He read her conclusion aloud before the class, and everybody laughed.
    But Junko knew. All of them were wrong. Otherwise how could the ending of the story be so quiet and beautiful?”

    ― Haruki Murakami, After The Quake

    #21771
    Avatar photozn
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    from off the net

    TackleDummy

    I went to the website [dcprosportsreport.com] which lists almost 300 mock drafts. I looked at the most recent ones (the ones that fit on one page of my printer) and checked who they had picked for the Rams at #10.

    16 of them picked an offensive lineman. Scherff (6), L. Collins (5), Peat (3), Clemmings (1) and Ogbuehi (1)

    9 of them picked a wide receiver: Cooper (4), White (4), and Parker (1)

    There was also QB Marieta, CB Waynes, and OLB Beasley who got 1 vote each.

    If one hour before the draft starts someone tells me who will be drafted #10 I would be willing to bet they would be wrong. And that includes Fisher and Snead. There is just too many things that can happen with the first nine positions of the draft for anyone to have a 50-50 chance at picking the #10 slot. But that said, I do find it interesting that there is a general thought process that the Rams will choose either an OL or a WR at 10, with OL coming out the favorite.

    I also noted that all but one picked QB Winston for the first choice, most picked DT Williams #2 and picked OLB Fowler #3. Also, they had #4 going for a WR but it was somewhat split between White and Cooper. In addition almost everyone had Mariota going in the top 6.

    #21785
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    Mock Draft Roundup: 9th Edition

    By Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Mock-Draft-Roundup-9th-Edition/b3711480-b309-4ec8-b3df-e006bb1877cd

    We’re officially one month away form the first round of the NFL draft on April 30, and the mocks are continuing to come on in. This week, we were able to find a potpourri of players from an array of respected analysts from around the league. One analyst even went as far as to project all seven rounds of the draft.

    Charles Davis has been one of the more unique voices in his mocks when it comes to his Rams selections. In his first version released back on February 10, he had the team picking Jameis Winston. Then on February 25, he had St. Louis choosing Michigan State cornerback Trae Waynes. Now in his latest mock, he has the Rams taking Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota.

    “Despite the trade of Sam Bradford that brings Nick Foles to town, landing a potential franchise QB at this spot is irresistible for Rams,” Davis writes.

    Rams head coach Jeff Fisher stated last week at the owners’ meetings in Phoenix that the Nick Foles trade does not necessarily change the team’s draft plans, so picking Mariota is not inconceivable. But with all the hype surrounding the 2014 Heisman Trophy winner, it seems doubtful that he’d ever slip that far.

    Mariota threw for 4,454 yards, 42 touchdowns, and only four interceptions last season. He also rushed for 770 yards and 15 touchdowns. He completed 66.8 percent of his passes in three years as a starter for the Ducks.

    It’s been a while since wideout DeVante Parker has shown up in the roundups — he was last mocked to the Rams all the way back in the second edition by Bleacher Report’s Michael Schottey. And even here in the ninth, Parker seems to only be a placeholder.

    ESPN’s Todd McShay writes that the Rams will select the Louisville wide receiver, but spends most of his section on the pick discussing reasons why St. Louis could trade up to take quarterback Marcus Mariota. (Insider subscription required — $$)

    “They have the young talent currently on their roster to help them sustain the loss of draft picks that would come with a big move up the board,” McShay writes, adding that Mariota would bring a rushing element from the quarterback position that could be attractive to the coaching staff.

    Basically, McShay has the Rams taking Parker to address what he sees as a need on the roster because his mock drafts don’t project trades. So, there you have it.

    While Parker missed the first seven games of the 2014 season with a foot injury, he finished the year by catching 43 passes for 855 yards and five touchdowns — good enough to garner second-team All-ACC honors. The 6-foot-3, 209-pound receiver finished his Louisville career with 156 receptions for 2,775 yards and 33 touchdowns.

    In what’s become a fairly popular pick in recent weeks, NFL media’s Lance Zierlein projects the Rams will select wide receiver Amari Cooper at No. 10.

    “The Rams could easily look at RT here,” Zierlein writes, “but passing on a touchdown-maker like Cooper in a division featuring Seattle could be tough.”

    Interestingly enough, Zierlein also projects that quarterback Marcus Mariota will fall until No. 12, when the Browns pick him up — a scenario that seems fairly unlikely at this point.

    Nevertheless, Cooper turned in a stellar 2014 season with Alabama, winning the Biletnikoff Award as the nation’s top receiver. Cooper caught 124 passes for 1,727 yards and 16 touchdowns. He was a Heisman Trophy finalist for his accomplishments as well, finishing third behind Mariota and Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon.

    Bucky Brooks, also of NFL Media, has the Rams addressing their offensive line by picking Iowa’s Brandon Scherff.

    “The Rams could use a WR1, but adding a rugged interior blocker with grit and toughness would help Jeff Fisher build an offensive line that could dominate opponents at the point of attack,” Brooks writes.

    One of the featured offensive tackles in our #FutureInvestments series, Scherff has long been thought of as one of the top offensive linemen in this year’s class. He raked in plenty of awards following the 2014 season, as he won the Outland Trophy (awarded to the best interior lineman in the nation), the Rimington-Pace Offensive Lineman of the Year (a conference award from from the Big Ten), was named a unanimous All-American, and first-team All-Big Ten.

    In the week’s most ambitious undertaking, Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller projected every pick in the 2015 draft. I’ll be honest and say that I’m not sure how much stock you can put into anyone projecting that many picks, but it’s kind of fun to talk about.

    As for his first-round pick, Miller goes fairly unconventional for the Rams and has them taking Washington cornerback Marcus Peters.

    “There is a lot of talk about drafting the highest graded player on your board, and that’s exactly what the St. Louis Rams should do,” Miller writes, adding that lightning could maybe strike twice for St. Louis with another Defensive Rookie of the Year. “Peters isn’t an immediate need in St. Louis, but he could make the trio at cornerback (with Janoris Jenkins and E.J. Gaines) remarkably talented for a young group. With an elite defensive line, Akeem Ayers filling the hole at linebacker and offensive weapons in place, this is the right pick for the Rams.”

    Peters was dismissed from Washington’s football program after multiple run-ins with the coaching staff. He is quite talented, though, allowing just 38.1 percent of passes against him to be completed in the 2013 and 2014 seasons, according to his nfl.com draft profile. He was also a second-team All-Pac 12 honoree in 2013.

    As for the rest of Miller’s massive mock draft, you can check out all of his Rams picks below.

    Round 2: Cameron Erving, C, FSU (More: #FutureInvestments)
    Round 3: A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina (More: #FutureInvestments)
    Round 4: Daryl Williams, OT, Oklahoma (More: NFL.com draft profile)
    Round 6: Rannell Hall, WR, Central Florida (More: NFL.com draft profile)
    Round 7: Jeff Luc, ILB, Cincinnati

    #21830
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Video:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-comparison/0ap3000000482588/Pro-Comparison-T-J-Yeldon
    “compares to Le’Veon Bell”
    I liked him too.

    Agamemnon

    #21835
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    i worry about those alabama backs although ingram had a good 2014.

    they do need to pick a running back somewhere though.

    get him and collins. robinson saffold collins barksdale. that’d be a nice line to run behind. barnes or jones at center?

    #21836
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant

    i worry about those alabama backs although ingram had a good 2014.

    they do need to pick a running back somewhere though.

    get him and collins. robinson saffold collins barksdale. that’d be a nice line to run behind. barnes or jones at center?

    I never liked Trent Richardson or Mark Ingram, Lacy was OK, I like Yeldon. Mason is better than I thought he would be.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoAgamemnon.

    Agamemnon

    #21925
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    http://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft/2015-first-round-projection/

    April 1, 2015 – 9:27 am

    No April Fool’s; GBN mock updated … With the draft now just over 4 weeks away, the GBN 3-round projection has been updated based on the latest intel. And after Florida State QB Jameis Winston’s reasonably successful pro day work out yestrerday, we are pretty comfortable with the first pick in this mock; after that maybe not so much!

    Agamemnon

    #21927
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25131794/phillip-dorsett-clocks-a-blistering-42-40-yard-dash-at-miami-pro-day
    Phillip Dorsett clocks a blistering 4.2 40-yard dash at Miami pro day
    By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
    April 1, 2015 2:36 pm ET

    He fast. He fast. (Twitter)

    With all 32 NFL teams in attendance, Miami had several prospects impress on Wednesday at the Hurricanes pro day, most notably senior wide receiver Phillip Dorsett, who timed in the mid-4.2 range on his two 40-yard dash attempts.

    Dorsett, who ran a 4.33 at the NFL Combine, showed off his speed and suddenness on the field during positional drills, catching passes from Ryan Williams and Jake Heaps. With special athletic traits, there is a good chance he is drafted higher than what the tape says, possibly as early as the first round.
    https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/32647F055A1195088164985966592_37785134804.2.1.4210364079829433591.mp4?versionId=swC4pP3pLLJCpSX0wCXQSvKKQ3p6F1QI

    Agamemnon

    #21928
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/25131640/nfl-draft-big-board-plenty-of-options-in-deep-cornerback-class
    2015 NFL Draft Big Board: Plenty of options in deep cornerback class
    by Rob Rang | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
    April 1, 2015 12:36 PM ET

    Given the sterling workouts from Michigan State’s Trae Waynes and Connecticut’s Byron Jones, perhaps it is surprising that the 2015 crop of cornerbacks isn’t generating more buzz — especially considering the pass-happy offenses in today’s NFL.

    Don’t confuse the lack of attention with a poor crop at the position, however. While Waynes and Washington’s Marcus Peters are the only cornerbacks to earn spots among my Top 32 prospects, five others (including Jones) fall just outside of this distinction.

    In fact, nine cornerbacks are listed among my Top 64 Prospects in the 2015 NFL Draft, making this position quietly one of the deeper and more talented groups this year.

    Agamemnon

    #21965
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/

    interesting. lots of videos to check out.

    #21967
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    cameron erving

    marcus mariota

    #21968
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    amari cooper and melvin gordon

    #21969
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    nevermind. ag has been posting these. ha!

    #21971
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    nevermind. ag has been posting these. ha!

    Yeah I am go to merge into the (most recent) big draft thread, unless you object.

    #21978
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    that’s cool. i like it.

    #21990
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Quarterback Ball Velocity at NFL Combine 2008-2015
    Posted on March 13, 2015 by Dan Shonka
    Ourlads’ Guide to the NFL Draft is the only source that gives the number for the quarterback’s velocity at the NFL Combine. Velocity is measured by a radar gun in miles per hour.

    Bryan Bennett, SE Louisiana

    Year: 2015

    Bryan Bennett, SE Louisiana 60
    Sean Mannion, Oregon State 57
    Brandon Bridge, South Alabama 57
    Marcus Mariota, Oregon 56
    Anthony Boone, Duke 56
    Jameis Winston, Florida State 55
    Cody Fajardo, Nevada 55
    Bryce Petty, Baylor 53
    Brett Hundley, UCLA 53
    Shane Carden, East Carolina 52
    Jerry Lovelocke, Prairie View A&M 51
    Nick Marshall, Auburn 50
    Blake Sims, Alabama 42
    Garrett Grayson, Colorado State, Did not throw
    Connor Halliday, Washington State, Did not throw
    http://blogs.ourlads.com/2015/03/13/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2015/

    Agamemnon

    #21991
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    #21992
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    by Gary Vey for viewzone

    I first heard about the “web bot” some years ago. There was a piece on the news about a man who had developed a computer program that could successfully predict trends and events of the future. His predictions were so accurate that the military and Wall Street were courting him and he was consulting for some of the biggest corporations.

    The man was Clif High and his program generates reports called “Asymmetric Language Trend Analysis.” I thought I’d take a look at these predictions and maybe I’d learn something about new software, the coming fashions or how many girlfriends of Tiger Woods will eventually be revealed. What I did not expect to learn was predictions about a global catastrophe, millions of people dying and extraterrestrials eating us! But that’s what is in store for the next couple of years according to this very reliable computer program.

    http://behind-the-matrix.blogspot.com/2010/02/powerful-computer-program-predicts-2010.html
    Can it predict the NFL draft?

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    Agamemnon

    #21994
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant


    This doesn’t change my draft, but if I had to take a DE, it would be this guy. Maybe he is trade bait? Maybe it depends on how the draft looks when it gets to pick 10?

    OH NO, he has short arms.

    Interesting player. I tend to think of him as a LB.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoAgamemnon.

    Agamemnon

    #22026
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    hopefully, the rams fix the oline. hopefully, foles stays healthy. hopefully, bailey, austin, quick, and britt can continue to get better.

    and then the rams can get a better idea of what they have in these receivers.

    #22036
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant


    http://draftbreakdown.com/mockdrafts/ndt-scoutings-2015-nfl-mock-draft/

    These guys provide some good films, in which they isolate various prospects.
    http://draftbreakdown.com/

    Agamemnon

    #22041
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    it is nice isn’t it? before the internet or just around the rise of the internet, i’d have to go out and buy draft magazines to find all this information. but even then. we didn’t have access to the wealth of videos that get circulated around.

    the thing that appeals to me most about guys like collins is their positional versatility. gives the team a lot of flexibility in terms of filling in gaps on the oline. especially in this day and age when those positions seems to go through so much flux.

    i’d rather go for that guy than a guy who is strictly a tackle. maybe that’d be different if i was looking for a left tackle or even a center. but right now i’m looking at versatility.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoInvaderRam.
    #22043
    Avatar photocanadaram
    Participant

    I tried to post images of combine measurables by position that were posted by @ukdraftfan, but apparently such a task is beyond my limited skill set. At any rate, I found the information interesting. Check out his images if you have time and the interest.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photocanadaram.
    #22048
    Avatar photocanadaram
    Participant

    another failed attempt.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photocanadaram.
    #22050
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    you could post the link and maybe someone could help.

    #22051
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    I tried to post images of combine measurables by position that were posted by @ukdraftfan, but apparently such a task is beyond my limited skill set. At any rate, I found the information interesting. Check out his images if you have time and the interest.

    The way to post images is to save them then convert them to jpgs via this device:

    http://postimage.org/

    #22052
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
    Participant

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBnE0rrWEAAUOVL.jpg

    This stuff? From here? https://twitter.com/UKDraftFan

    It probably isn’t your fault. They have an extension that this software won’t recognize unless you manually go in and extract the correct format.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoAgamemnon.

    Agamemnon

    #22068
    Avatar photocanadaram
    Participant

    This stuff? From here? https://twitter.com/UKDraftFan

    Yes. Thanks.

    #22084
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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