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October 15, 2023 at 7:39 pm #146136JackPMillerParticipant
Both the Eagles and 9ers went down. The Jets finally got their first win ever against Philly, and the 9ers kicker missed a field goal, wide right.
October 15, 2023 at 8:00 pm #146141znModeratorJets beat the Eagles after being down 14-3 in the 2nd quarter.
October 15, 2023 at 11:03 pm #146150znModeratorRoquan Smith is processing the game at a different level than 99% of people that play the sport.
Killed the 2-min warning himself by letting the runner get up. Preventer offense from getting set and e getting an extra play off pic.twitter.com/JISFmOvQLR
— Spencer Schultz (@ravens4dummies) October 15, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 10:24 am #146161znModeratorJared Goff over his last 17 games, the equivalent of a full NFL regular season:
391-of-578 (67.6%)
4,473 passing yards
29 passing TD
4 interceptionsThe Lions are 13-4 in those games. pic.twitter.com/oc37QGvMgI
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 8:44 pm #146198znModeratorMyles Garrett won 31% of his pass rushing snaps vs Trent Williams in Week 6
That is the highest percentage given up by Williams in his entire career 🤯 pic.twitter.com/IAyeRnDecO
— PFF (@PFF) October 16, 2023
October 16, 2023 at 10:25 pm #146205ZooeyModeratorColts QB Anthony Richardson is “likely” to miss the rest of the season and undergo shoulder surgery, Colts owner Jim Irsay tells me.
But, to be clear, sources have insisted that active conversations with doctors across the country are ongoing: https://t.co/LwTDMgKl2P
— Stephen Holder (@HolderStephen) October 17, 2023
October 17, 2023 at 6:23 pm #146225ZooeyModerator20+ yard completions this season:
29 Jared Goff
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25 Tua Tagovailoa, CJ Stroud
24 Matthew Stafford
23 Kirk Cousins— Underdog NFL (@Underdog__NFL) October 16, 2023
October 19, 2023 at 9:32 am #146288znModeratorOctober 22, 2023 at 10:43 am #146354znModeratorOctober 22, 2023 at 11:53 am #146356InvaderRamModeratorputting the superbowl aside. i wonder how the rams with goff and all those first round picks would be doing right now.
i still like stafford a lot. but i like goff too. maybe it was just mcvay and goff not being compatible. or maybe mcvay and snead we’re just a little too impulsive. maybe an older mcvay and snead don’t make that trade. but they were also desperate to win the big one.
October 22, 2023 at 12:20 pm #146359Billy_TParticipantputting the superbowl aside. i wonder how the rams with goff and all those first round picks would be doing right now. i still like stafford a lot. but i like goff too. maybe it was just mcvay and goff not being compatible. or maybe mcvay and snead we’re just a little too impulsive. maybe an older mcvay and snead don’t make that trade. but they were also desperate to win the big one.
To me, the question needs to be looked at prior to the trade, not in hindsight. It’s too easy to say it was a great trade because the Rams won it all the next season. As in, what was the context at the time? Stafford, as good as he’s always been, had never won a playoff game, much less the Super Bowl. Goff had already helped take the Rams to the Super Bowl just two years prior, and the Rams were still a contender with or without him. He’s also nearly seven years younger, with far less tread on his tires (due to injuries, etc).
Personally, I think the Rams would have been better off keeping Goff, and those draft picks, and working their butts off to help Goff play up to his potential. Two firsts and a third could have yielded a premier edge, LT, corner, etc. In my view, they could have had a sustained run at the Big Dance, instead of a one-off. That was my view going into the trade, and it still holds for me.
Obviously, I love that they won it all, and that can never be taken away from McVay, Snead, Stafford, or anyone else on the Rams. Stafford has proven himself over and over again, and few QBs have ever been tougher. There’s no quit in him. But I’m a greedy fan. I want both/and. Wins and more wins. The whole enchilada plus sustained access to fine dining.
October 22, 2023 at 2:15 pm #146361znModeratorI was and am fine with the trade. Goff and McV were just together at the wrong stages of each of their careers. The way I saw it, starting in 2019 McV’s impatience undermined Goff’s confidence. McV wasn’t going to change and with Goff the damage had been done. McV needed an older vet qb he respected and would listen to. Stafford at that stage and in fact at this stage is the better qb, though that’s true of Stafford compared to most of the league and it’s not a knock on Goff. (With Stafford in Detroit, the problem was always Detroit.) McV was going to develop better as a coach with Stafford. Detroit builds around Goff’s strengths and sets him up to be confident; with Stafford, McV is much more collaborative. (IMO McV probably still has to learn how to develop a young qb). Anyway I was alwayws both (1) critical of how McV handled Goff, and (2) accepting of the trade, which I always defended (and again I like Goff, though today the Ravens are slaughtering them).
Lions can’t run on the Ravens and they’re sacking Goff and Jackson is eating them up. It’s funny, they finally got the “they’re legit” label and then immediately run into a buzz saw.
Anyway, on Stafford/Goff. Not pushing an agenda. This topic is just going to have lots of different takes from different posters. In my view, Stafford is the best qb I’ve ever seen play with the Rams. Better than Warner even, who was great, and Bulger, who was good. Goff is good, potentially great, but Stafford can still make throws the other 3 couldn’t/can’t.
October 22, 2023 at 3:56 pm #146365Billy_TParticipantZN,
I can see that take, and it has merits. It also has “it’s a done deal!” to give it weight.
But I’m stubborn, so there’s that, too.
:>)
Gabriel was the OG for me as a fan. He’ll always be the best in my mind. The Rams just didn’t have enough team speed or electricity on offense during his tenure. No real match-up nightmares on the o-side for other teams to deal with. If we can play what if games, Roman Gabriel wins two or more Super Bowls if he had weapons like Holt, Bruce, Faulk, and Hakim. With that defense and offensive line, he likely doesn’t need all of them.
Bulger doesn’t get enough credit. He was talented, and seemed pretty humble about that too.
Everett’s another one who lacked weapons. With Dickerson on the field, it may have taken just one more guy, one speedy wideout to tip the team over into juggernaut status.
Oh, well, c’est la vie.
October 22, 2023 at 4:06 pm #146366wvParticipant…Stafford is the best qb I’ve ever seen play with the Rams. Better than Warner even, who was great, and Bulger, who was good. Goff is good, potentially great, but Stafford can still make throws the other 3 couldn’t/can’t.
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October 22, 2023 at 6:41 pm #146367InvaderRamModeratorThis topic is just going to have lots of different takes from different posters. In my view
for sure. it’s just interesting to think about. there are pros and cons to each – keeping goff or trading for stafford. no wrong answer i don’t think.
October 25, 2023 at 1:52 pm #146447znModeratorIntercepting a toss is as glorious as I imagined https://t.co/HEbilqOXKf
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) October 25, 2023
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