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    Terrell Sugg’s hit on Bradford’s knee was a bit of a topic on local SF Bay Area radio… THus, during Greg Cosell’s weekly call to the station the local radio host (Tom Tolbert, a former NBA player who grew up a Rams fan in Anaheim) asked Cosell who got the better end of the deal of the Bradford / Foles Trade… Cosell was not high on Foles, “he’s (foles) is not the guy to win a game… to that make the throw to get a 1st down on 3rd and long….. He’s a guy that will rely on the Rams great defense and a great running game, foles was a system qb in Philly… the Rams will heavily rely on Gurley and the D, not foles””””

    So I did a google search on “Greg Cosell Nick Foles”

    and got this article from July

    URL = http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/7/1/8876149/eagles-nick-foles-rams-jeremy-maclin-chiefs-byron-maxwell-disappoint-2015-contract-trade

    Marc Sessler of NFL.com recently came up with a list of the league’s top six players likely to disappoint in 2015. Funny enough, two former Philadelphia Eagles players made the cut.

    Ranking in at No. 1 is former Eagles quarterback Nick Foles, whom Philadelphia traded away (along with a 2016 second round pick) this offseason in exchange for Sam Bradford. Here’s what Sessler wrote:

    “I’m tempted to put Sam Bradford on this list, but I agree with Chris Wesseling: He’s a better fit for Comeback Player of the Year in Chip Kelly’s offense. Foles is here because of what we haven’t seen in St. Louis under Jeff Fisher: A competent offense. The Rams will run the ball plenty with Todd Gurley and Tre Mason, but Foles will be asked to make his share of plays through the air to one of the league’s most uninspiring group of wideouts. He was a statistical revelation two years ago, but Foles no longer operates inside a quarterback-proof offense.”

    Foles had a lot of success with the Eagles in 2013 when he was in the perfect situation. He had a completely healthy offensive, the NFL’s best running game, a defense that forced the third most turnovers, and an offensive coach who has proved to get the most out of his quarterbacks. Foles faced more adversity in 2014 and he couldn’t rise above it. I always go back to this assessment of Foles from Greg Cosell:

    “I think if you look at Foles the player, what you likely see is this: He’s got a good arm but not a gun; he’s not a power thrower, not a drive thrower. He’s a little more of a finesse thrower than a drive thrower. He does not have quick feet. There is no quick-twitch to his movement. There’s no explosive lower-body movement to him. When you look at Foles, I think what you see is a quarterback that needs the system to work for him and provide defined reads and good throws with the route concepts, just the whole system. He needs the system to work for him…”

    Considering the Rams’ situation, it’s hard to disagree with Sessler. Foles will have to face tough some NFC West defenses and he won’t be working with the weapons or coaching he had in Philadelphia. Chip Kelly obviously felt like Foles wasn’t worthy of being his franchise quarterback. The Rams feel differently. Who do you trust more: Kelly or Fisher?

    Elsewhere, former Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin ranked in at No. 6 on the list. Maclin, as we know, signed with Kansas City after Andy Reid offered more money than the Eagles did.

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    Considering the Rams’ situation, it’s hard to disagree with Sessler.

    Okay, that’s the potential downside…but, Cosell is not the one who ranks him as going to disappoint.

    Cosell has a lot more to say about Foles:

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/eagles-offense/

    In the passing game, it’s funny because you don’t see Nick Foles make a number of difficult throws. We talk about NFL quarterbacks making stick throws into a tight window, and how that is a necessity. You don’t see that a lot with Foles. He throws to a lot of open receivers. Kelly breaks defenses down really well with his routes and spreading the field. There are route combinations everyone runs, he just gets to them in a different way. Again, he creates conflict for defense and space for his offense to work.

    I don’t know if this has been drilled into Foles by Kelly, but Foles is a safe quarterback. If he doesn’t feel it’s there or it’s not in the play design, he doesn’t throw it. He’s a primary read quarterback – and my interpretation is that’s what Kelly wants.

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/2014-article-nick-foles-remains-a-qb-enigma/

    When Foles gets into more long-yardage situations — it’s tougher for any quarterback, that’s not just Nick Foles — but Foles is not the kind of quarterback that is going to stand in the pocket, sit on his back foot and drill the ball consistently between defenders,” he said.

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