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February 15, 2016 at 3:25 pm #39023znModerator
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin
I’m told the NFL’s salary cap is expected to jump to at least $155M this year. Nearly $12M more than last year’s ($143.28M).
February 15, 2016 at 3:28 pm #39026znModeratorRand Getlin @Rand_Getlin
I’m told the NFL’s salary cap is expected to jump to at least $155M this year. Nearly $12M more than last year’s ($143.28M).
The Rams are presently have 120+ M against the cap, and that’s before they do anything with already existing contracts.
That’s up to 35 M in space…thought JT says it’s actually more, ie. closer to 50 M.
February 15, 2016 at 3:37 pm #39028TSRFParticipantKnowing how Fisher likes to double down on D, do you think they try to keep both CB’s and Barron?
How about, if they let Chris Long go, the get JPP?
No idea how QB plays out here; I’d LOVE a known quantity like Phil Rivers or maybe even Ryan Fitzpatrick but I’m not holding my breath.
February 15, 2016 at 3:50 pm #39030znModeratorhttp://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/
A real-time look at the 2016 salary cap totals for each NFL team, including estimated cap space. Assumes a $154,000,000 team salary cap.
February 16, 2016 at 10:34 pm #39119znModeratorJT says it’s actually more, ie. closer to 50 M.
from NFL chat with Jim Thomas
link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/nfl-chat-with-jim-thomas-216/
The last time I checked the Rams had $115 million committed against the cap for 2016, w/the cap expected to be at about $155 million. But I don’t think those figures reflect the $6 million in unspent cap money from 2015 that can be carried over. So I think when all is said and done the Rams will be approaching $50 million in cap space _ far more than they’ve had at any point during their time in St. Louis. And enough to sign or re-sign whoever they want without cutting Long, Saffold, and Cook. But since you’ve asked, Long counts $14.25 million against the cap in 2016. Releasing him outright would save 9.75 million. Cook counts $8.3 million against the cap; releasing him saves $6 million. Saffold is a little bit more of a push and his contract is more complicated. He counts $6 million against the cap in ’16, and releasing him I believe saves $2.5 million.
February 17, 2016 at 1:35 pm #39152znModeratorRams 2016 Offseason Preview
Jason Fitzgerald
http://overthecap.com/rams-2016-offseason-preview/#more-11508
Current Estimated 2016 Cap Space: $36.7 million
Expected 2016 Cap Space: $56.0 million
Estimated Rookie Cap: $5.720 million
Roster Overview
Players Under Contract: 54
Pro Bowlers: 3
Unrestricted Free Agents: 12(7 with 50%+ playtime)
Draft Selection: 15Salary Cap Breakdown
Free Agents to Re-sign
The Rams don’t have any shortage of free agents to keep this year. I would expect one of the two cornerbacks to be back next season, but it may be too expensive to keep both. It sounded as if they made more an effort to keep Jenkins last season so I’d guess he would be the preferred of the two…William Hayes played well and was a valuable replacement for injury. At 31 he should not be incredibly expensive to keep…While Rodney McLeod is not as well known as some of the other available safeties, he likely will provide more bang for the buck…Mark Barron wound up playing more linebacker than safety and likely has more value to them than most other teams….I would assume Greg Zuerlein will be offered a contract, though he did not have a good year last season.Free Agents to Let Walk
Eugene Sims has spent his entire career with the Rams but its probably time for the Rams to look for more upside…My guess is someone will offer Nick Fairley a one year deal for more than he is worth. With Michael Brockers slary jumping I cant see the reason to keep Fairley for more than $3 million…Tim Barnes is pretty much a stop gap solution and one would think the Rams would look to find someone else next year.Contracts to Modify
Chris Long has been a good player for the team but the last few seasons he has just been plagued with injuries. Long has a $14.25 million cap charge and $11.75 million salary. I could see working out a three year extension at a far lower figure to allow him to finish his career with the team…It might be worth extending Brockers before the season. His current salary is over $6 million which could be used as a big portion of his new guarantee packagePlayers to Consider Releasing
Jared Cook never grew into the role that his contract seemed to indicate the Rams expected from him. They can save $5.7 million in cap and $7 million in cash by releasing him…James Laurinaitis generally grades out poorly and they could save just under $5.8 million if they release him. I could also see an extension for him at a $5,8 million guarantee on a much lower cost deal…If Long does not accept a paycut they would save $11.75 million if they cut him.Salary Cap Analytics by Bryce Johnston
The premise behind the Rams’ 2012 draft trade – accumulate a large quantity of relatively highly drafted players on overlapping cheap rookie contracts – was sound. Aligning assets in this manner is one way to gain a competitive advantage. If it had worked, the Rams could have been in an enviable salary cap situation, as the team would have had the opportunity to overpay free agents on front-loaded deals and/or push cap space forward throughout the duration of the rookie contracts of the core players, while signing the core players to extensions before hitting free agency (which tend to be at least somewhat below-market extensions). However, for one reason or another this strategy did not translate to many wins, and none of the players from the 2012 or 2013 drafts have received contract extensions.The good news is that the Rams have not made much of a commitment to this seven-win team, ranking 27th in Commitment Index. The team actually has more current salary cap space than true salary cap commitments in 2017 and beyond. As a result, the Rams are in a position to spend aggressively in free agency without compromising their future salary cap situation, although doing so in conjunction with resigning some of their own impending free agents will likely cause the team to move to the top half of the league with respect to Commitment Index. The team must decide if doing so is advisable, or if it is more prudent to refrain from increasing salary cap commitments until obtaining a QB suitable for contending.
–Bryce Johnston, @NFL Cap Analytics
Expected Contract Outcomes – Expected Contract Value 2.0 utilizes an algorithm based on a player’s contract characteristics, age, position and 2015 performance to forecast probabilities as to the outcomes of contract termination decisions. The lower the Expected Outcome, the more likely the player’s contract will be terminated in 2016. A pay cut is treated as a termination. We have applied ECV 2.0 to all contracts scheduled to count $2 million or more against the 2016 salary cap with the exception of exercised 5th year rookie options. Expected Savings is the calculated by multiplying the probability a player will be released by the cap savings realized by the team upon such release.
Player Position Expected Outcome Expected Savings
Aaron Donald F7 100.0% $0
Todd Gurley RB 99.5% ($40,841)
Greg Robinson OL 99.3% ($45,374)
Johnny Hekker KP 98.5% $32,548
Tavon Austin REC 95.7% $0
Robert Quinn F7 91.8% $479,926
James Laurinaitis F7 90.9% $502,222
Akeem Ayers F7 88.7% $373,560
Alec Ogletree F7 85.3% $201,137
Nick Foles QB 85.0% $112,725
Rodger Saffold OL 56.8% $1,147,234
Lance Kendricks REC 55.1% $1,459,900
Jared Cook REC 48.3% $2,946,672
Kenny Britt REC 46.4% $2,600,570
Chris Long F7 19.2% $9,492,825
Expected Change in Cap Room +$19,263,104True Cap Space – Realizable Cap Space depicts the total amount of salary cap space potentially at the team’s disposal in 2016, and True Cap Space makes further adjustments to take into consideration amounts that are accounted for in practical terms. Most True Cap Space will be used on players currently under contract as a result of the team choosing to not release them.
True Cap Space (2016)
Adjusted Salary Cap $150,933,521
Prorated Signing Bonus Amounts ($19,798,873)
Realizable Cap Space $131,134,648
Fully Guaranteed Salary ($16,906,392)
Minimum Salary Cap Holds ($20,250,000)
True Cap Space $93,978,256
League Rank 14thCommitment Index – Commitment Index identifies the degree to which a team has “mortgaged its future” by measuring its net future salary cap commitments as a percentage of the average net future salary cap commitments of all teams. A Commitment Index Score of 100% is average, and a negative Commitment Index Score indicates that the team has more current salary cap space than future salary cap commitments. The Commitment Index Score of every team in the league changes to at least some degree with every transaction executed by any team in the league, so Commitment Index Score is measured as of a specific point in time (in this case, January 11, 2016).
Commitment Index (2017+)
Prorated Signing Bonus Amounts $18,295,839
Fully Guaranteed Salary $9,136,257
Current Cap Space ($32,490,626)
Net Commitment ($5,058,530)
Commitment Index Score -29%
League Rank (1st = Most Committed) 27thOffseason Plan
Every offseason the story seems to be the same with the Rams as their lack of a quarterback and offensive talent locks them into a guaranteed 6 to 8 wins in a season. They have some devastating talent on the defensive line ad have the potential to be a great defense, but every year that offense seems to misfire. For the first time in a few years the Rams will have some cap room to spare even after they keep some of their own players. Can that help with their position needs though? Probably not.Nick Foles did not work out for the Rams last year and it seems likely they would bring in another player to compete for the job. Once cut Robert Griffin III would have more potential than anyone else available. I’m sure some could look at the defense and say that maybe a veteran like a Drew Stanton or Ryan Fitzpatrick could do something, but unless they improve elsewhere they are better off with the higher upside player even if there is potential to bust completely.
There were rumors that the Eagles were interested in Foles and if that was true and I were the Rams I would look to see what I could get back for him. He has a $6 million guaranteed roster bonus that the Rams could avoid if they traded him and that might be worth it assuming they have another option. RGIII would be cut before the start of free agency so the Rams should have a good idea if they have an option on the table before moving Foles.
The Rams desperately need a receiver, but unfortunately this is not a great free agent group. Names like Rueben Randle and Travis Benjamin are not really much better than what they have and overpaying for a number 2 receiver that won’t have help is going to end up in disappointment. Maybe Marvin Jones could have some upside for this offense but only if it’s at a reasonable number. Expect this to be a draft need more than a free agent one.
I would expect the team to look at the offensive line to see where they could improve. Making a push for Alex Mack of the Browns would be a boost at center and there may be a few guards who can improve the interior line play or add depth to cover for injuries. They could always move on from Rodger Saffold if they really felt they found a strong candidate to replace him. Getting a veteran left tackle to potentially take over for Greg Robinson if he continues to struggle and needs to move to the right side or just take a break might be an option. Probably best to look at players who are released rather than pure free agents.
If they do let Long go the team would have the resources to go after an Olivier Vernon or even take a risk on a Jason Pierre-Paul. They have three really good pieces on that line and they could end up with a superunit if they decided to put the resources there to have the two dominant ends that can rush the passer.
If the Rams find the right options in free agency and the draft they have the opportunity to make a playoff run this year, but if I had to guess the real impact talent for them will need to come from the draft and wont be there in free agency.
February 17, 2016 at 2:20 pm #39158znModeratorAdjusted Salary Cap $150,933,521
That long, over-written, lumpy piece of not that well informed about the Rams situation analysis uses the wrong 2016 cap number.
February 18, 2016 at 12:47 pm #39226AgamemnonParticipantHow $1 billion in cap space could alter NFL free agency
11:54 AM ETKevin SeifertNFL Nation
If you’re even moderately interested in NFL contracts, you know the salary cap has risen $10 million in each of the past two years. You’ve probably heard it will go up at least that much in 2016, giving it a 25 percent hike since 2013.
What you might not realize, however, is the cumulative effect of that growth and how it could change NFL free agency — if all corners of the industry catch on.
Here’s the bottom line: Give or take, there will be $1 billion in salary-cap space available when the market opens on March 9. That’s a massive and unprecedented number, enough to pay the rosters of six full teams and an amount that will gift market-blowing contracts to the second- and third-tier players typically available.
As the chart shows, ESPN Stats & Information projects six teams having more than $50 million in cap space, and the median team will have $25 million based on a cap estimate of $154 million per team. (The precise cap limit might not be finalized for another two weeks.)
“This thing is just going to explode,” said Joe Banner, the former Eagles and Browns executive who is now an ESPN analyst. “People are just not realizing what is sort of already happening and will keep happening.”
Banner has been sounding the alarm on his Twitter feed for months, noting the steady rise of television rights fees and new revenue from over-the-top streaming and the league’s return to Los Angeles, and suggesting that the annual cap surge is here to stay. He has been highly critical of agents and players who have re-signed with teams during this exclusive negotiating period, in essence rejecting the long-held paradigm that players almost always get their best offers from their current teams.
“With this much money available,” Banner said, “you’re going to be saying in free agency, ‘This player got more than I thought he could ever get’ if you have a good idea of who he is comparable to in the market. Guys are just going to be getting big increases over that.”
(In a deep analysis this week, the website Over The Cap projected the increase at 20 percent on average. In other words, a player whose market comparison suggests he should get $10 million per season will be able to push it via bidding up to $12 million.)
The power of a flush open market was apparent but largely unnoticed last year. In signing cornerback Buster Skrine, the Jets blew past the top market value of $4 million per season for a nickel cornerback and paid him $6.25 million annually, an increase of 56 percent. Based on three-year averages, the Dolphins paid defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh a contract worth more than 40 percent what the Buccaneers paid Gerald McCoy just five months earlier. The Raiders made Rodney Hudson the NFL’s second-highest paid center at $8.9 million per year, not because he is an elite player but because he was the best center available.
So, who stands to cash in next month?
“Everybody who hits the market,” Banner said. “It’s that simple. Someone has to get all this money. To me, it’s almost malpractice not to see what could happen on the market. The money is going to be there. It has to be.”
Some would say the Jets overpaid for Buster Skrine last offseason, given that he was their nickel cornerback. Ed Mulholland/USA TODAY SportsI realize that the only people who care whether an NFL player makes $10 million or $12 million per year are fellow players, agents, media members and the subset of fans who follow contract negotiations as an offseason competition of sorts. To me, the true value of any cap discussion is the extent to which it impacts player movement. We all care about who plays for whom. And these numbers suggest that expectations for NFL free agency could change in the future if more players sit tight and wait for the market to open.
Some would get the franchise tag, of course. Others might feel compelled to jump on an offer made a year before they are eligible for unrestricted free agency. But for the rest, patience might work — even for those who could never contemplate playing for another team.
“If a team comes to you early and offers you money now, that means they want you badly,” Banner said. “Players shouldn’t forget that at this time of year.”
Two teams have persuaded key players to do just that in recent weeks. The Eagles have signed four veterans to extensions, including defensive end Vinny Curry as he was approaching free agency. The Broncos, meanwhile, persuaded defensive lineman Derek Wolfe to sign last month rather than test the market.
If Banner’s theory holds, those deals will be dwarfed in free agency by players of equal or lesser skill. So it’s not impossible to envision a future when a Curry or a Wolfe waits for the market to open. The landscape would be populated by more impact players, pushing the flawed castoffs further down the chain and giving teams who hope to improve quickly — or even just satisfy the NFL’s spending floor — a better chance.
In other words, these annual salary-cap increases wouldn’t just make a few players disproportionately richer. They could alter the NFL’s basic team-building model as well, if the industry catches on. Imagine big-time free agency as a way to truly improve a cap-rich team, rather than being simply a vehicle for overpaying another team’s discards. Stay tuned.
If contracts are expected to be 20% higher than in past years, it might explain why the Rams haven’t signed any potential free agents. Also, if it is true, we should see more teams tagging players. imo
I think the Rams would still be able to sign most everybody that they wanted. But, they are going to have to look closer at cutting players like Saffold and Laurinaitis.
February 18, 2016 at 3:15 pm #39229znModeratorBig jump in salary cap would come at good time for Rams
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The NFL hasn’t officially announced what the 2016 NFL salary cap will look like, but there have been reports during the past couple of weeks that it will ultimately land in the range of $155 million per team.
That would represent an increase of about $12 million over the 2015 season’s $143 million cap. The exact figure won’t be revealed until a few days before the start of the new league year on March 9, but it’s fair to assume that such a leap is reasonable, considering the continued rise of league revenue.
If the $155 million figure (or close to it) proves accurate, it would be good news for every NFL team, including the Los Angeles Rams. In fact, it would help the Rams in multiple ways entering an offseason with a lot of difficult decisions on the docket.
Keep in mind that the Rams could carry over some cap space from last year to have even more room, so as it stands before they make any roster moves, this team could have more than $40 million to spend.
Here’s a look at four ways the rising cap could benefit the Rams this year:
1. Re-signing their own players — Obviously. The Rams have about a dozen players set to become unrestricted free agents, including key pieces such as cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, safeties Rodney McLeod and Mark Barron and ends William Hayes and Eugene Sims, among others. It also allows them a little more flexibility with restricted free agents they definitely want to keep, such as quarterback Case Keenum. In most offseasons, that would mean coming to grips with the fact that some of those free agents will not return. But the Rams should have enough money to keep the majority of the players they want, as long as they’re willing to pay the freight. They could even use the franchise or transition tags if they want. The downside of the cap jump, though, is that every team gets the same money, so they can come with big money to drive up prices on the Rams, too.
2. Not cutting their own players — In recent years, the Rams have found themselves parting ways with high-priced veterans before free agency begins. Players such as cornerback Cortland Finnegan, tackle Jake Long and center Scott Wells are among the names they’ve let go to carve out more cap space. The Rams will likely make a move or two before free agency, but those would be as much a result of cutting ties with players who aren’t worth the price tag, as it would be just trying to create more cap space. The flip side of that is if there are players whom they aren’t sure about keeping or letting go — players such as receiver Kenny Britt and linebacker Akeem Ayers come to mind — they could be easier to keep because of the additional cap space.
3. Taking a hit — There isn’t a team in the league that enjoys letting players go and adding dead money to their salary cap. It’s also a reality of the league that you’re eventually going to have to have money count against your cap for players that aren’t on your team. While it’s never ideal, it’s a lot more palatable when you have a salary cap reaching a record high and a lot of room to spend already. The Rams are going to be looking for quarterbacks this offseason and if they find one, it means they have to delete one. Because keeping Keenum is a priority and Sean Mannion is only entering his second season, that makes Nick Foles the most likely candidate. If the Rams choose to go that way, they would have to eat quite a bit of salary unless they can trade him. It would be a bitter pill to swallow after trading for and signing him last year, but it’s a little easier to take with the extra space available.
4. Planning for the future — The Rams have spent the past four years building the team, mostly through the draft, and they’ve finally hit on some players worth keeping around for a second contract. That’s the good news. The bad news is that many of those players are going to be coming up on free agency soon and the Rams are going to have to pay dearly to keep them. Defensive tackle Michael Brockers is under team control via the fifth-year option, but will need an extension sooner than later and the Rams could theoretically get a big chunk of any guaranteed money out of the way in 2016 by getting something done sooner rather than later. Others, such as Tavon Austin and Alec Ogletree, are heading into the final year of their rookie contracts and the Rams will have to make decisions on their fifth-year options this summer as well.
February 19, 2016 at 5:21 pm #39274AgamemnonParticipantI think the Rams would still be able to sign most everybody that they wanted. But, they are going to have to look closer at cutting players like Saffold and Laurinaitis.
Saffold survived, Long and Laurinaitis didn’t. Cook was a given.
February 19, 2016 at 9:03 pm #39297znModeratorRams save close to $24M after cutting three veterans
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The Rams are not only moving to Los Angeles, they’re also moving on from three veteran mainstays in the process.
The team announced the release of defensive end Chris Long, middle linebacker James Laurinaitis and tight end Jared Cook on Friday.
In releasing the trio, the Rams will save about $24 million in salary-cap space. That could set them up to re-sign some of their own key free agents, like cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, and safeties such as Rodney McLeod and Mark Barron.
“This is the time of year when all NFL teams are faced with difficult decisions regarding their veteran players,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said in a statement. “Chris and James are the epitome of what it means to be a pro in this league and it’s been an honor to coach them both.
“They’ve been the pillars of our defense for many years and not enough can be said of their love for the game and for their teammates. Beyond the field, they took pride in mentoring the younger players and doing their part to make a real difference in the St. Louis community. We will always be grateful for James and Chris’ unselfish commitment to the Rams and wish them the best moving forward.”
Long took to Instagram to offer an honest assessment of his performance the past two years and to thank fans for rooting for him in his time with the team. Between the 2010 and 2013 seasons, Long posted 41.5 sacks, which ranks fifth among defensive linemen. But over the last two seasons, Long has posted a total of 4.0 sacks, which ranks tied for 101st among players at his position.
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Long’s sacks:
2012 11.5
2013 8.5
2014 1.0
2015 3.0His salary-cap hit was among top 7 DEs each season, 2012-15
Laurinaitis was actually at the team facility working out when Fisher called him into his office and broke the news.
“I was surprised by it, I was shocked at first,” Laurinaitis told ESPN.com. “But I also know this is a business and when you start to move toward the front of the parking spaces and get a little older, all those people in front of you have left so you are not any different than anybody else who is getting up there. I’m going into Year 8, and I’m still 29 and I still feel like I’m playing at a productive level. I was a little shocked from that point of view but man other than that, it’s a business.
“I have seen a lot of things and seen a lot of people go. I have been grateful to have seven years with the same team. That’s rare in and of itself. I’m not bitter about that. Just a little surprised it happened this year, but that’s football.”
With Laurinaitis out of the picture, the Rams’ early plan is to move linebacker Alec Ogletree inside and re-sign Barron to step into Ogletree’s spot as the weakside linebacker. Barron filled in for Ogletree for the season’s final 12 games in 2015, after Ogletree suffered a season-ending knee injury.
Before their release, Long and Laurinaitis were the team’s two longest-tenured players. Long, the son of Hall of Famer Howie Long, was the second overall pick in the 2008 NFL draft and started 95 games, with 54.5 sacks, in his time with the team.
Laurinaitis came to the Rams as a second-round pick in 2009 and became the franchise’s all-time leading tackler in 2015.
Cook signed a five-year, $35 million deal with the Rams as an undrafted free agent in 2013. He posted 142 receptions for 1,786 yards and eight touchdowns in three seasons with the team. The Rams would have taken a cap hit of $8.3 million had he remained on the roster.
“Jared made an immediate impact when he joined the team in 2013. It’s been a pleasure watching him grow from the time I drafted him in Tennessee to seeing him set franchise records in St. Louis,” Fisher said in the statement. “Like Chris and James, he’s been a mainstay in the community and his contributions are commendable. We hope for the best for Jared and his family as he embarks on the next steps of his career.”
Information from ESPN Stats & Info was included in this report.
February 19, 2016 at 10:52 pm #39305znModeratorJoel Corry @corryjoel
Rams become a leader in 2016 salary cap space by cutting Chris Long, James Laurinaitis & Jared Cook. Now approaching $60M in cap room.February 20, 2016 at 8:16 am #39316AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000636218/article/estimated-2016-franchise-tag-figures
Estimated 2016 franchise tag figuresBy Kevin Patra
Tuesday marks the first day of a two-week window during which NFL teams can use the Franchise or Transition tag on players set to become free agents.
While we won’t have an exact figure until after the salary cap is officially set, we do have a guesstimation.
NFL Media’s Albert Breer reported in December that teams were given a projected 2016 cap of between $147 to $153 million. As Breer notes, the cap range given to teams for budgeting purposes tends to be on the low end. Therefore, if we use $153 million as our starting point (an increase of just under $9 million from last season) we can estimate the franchise tag cost for each position (transition tag in parenthesis).
Quarterback: $19.6 million ($17.5 million)
Defensive end: $15.4 million ($12.5 million)
Wide Receiver: $14.4 million ($12.0 million)
Linebacker: $14.0 million ($11.7 million)
Cornerback: $13.7 million ($11.7 million)
Offensive line: $13.5 million ($11.7 million)
Defensive tackle: $13.4 million ($10.7 million)
Running back: $11.5 million ($9.5 million)
Safety: $10.6 million ($9.0 million)
Tight End: $9.0 million ($7.6 million)
Kicker/Punter: $4.5 million ($4.0 million)If the salary cap rises even more than $153 million, these one-year figures would also increase accordingly.
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