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  • #120318
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    from Player cuts tracker: NFL teams finalizing 53-man rosters for 2020 season

    https://www.nfl.com/news/player-cuts-tracker-nfl-teams-finalize-53-man-rosters-for-2020-season

    With the 2020 NFL season kicking off next week, each team must trim its roster to 53 players by 4 p.m. ET on Saturday, Sept. 5.

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    from https://newsplus24.com/when-are-nfl-roster-cuts-in-2020-deadline-date-rules-practice-squad-salary-more-to-know/

    The good news for the players who get cut in 2020 is they will have more chances to land on the practice squads of either their own teams or others. The NFL agreed to expand practice squad rosters from 12 to 16 in 2020 to account for the possibility of positive COVID-19 tests throughout the season keeping players off the field.

    Per the terms of the new collective bargaining agreement, NFL teams in 2020 also will be able to expand their rosters to 55 players (48 active) on game day by temporarily promoting players from their practice squads.

    #120365
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    I used to stress about cut down days, hoping the Rams didn’t screw it up. But the last few years I have got a lot of confidence that they will make good choices.

    Agamemnon

    #120366
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    So is anyone getting cut from this board? Who are going to be the cap casualties from this board? Are we over or under the cap?

    Questions we all need to know. We need to know the truth.

    #120371
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    Are we over or under the cap?

    We are simultaneously infinitely over AND infinitely under the cap.

    I don’t quite understand it. Math is not my thing.

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    Rams waive 17 players ahead of 53-man roster deadline

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/rams-waive-17-players-ahead-of-53-man-roster-deadline

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Los Angeles Rams announced they have waived the following players:

    DB Adonis Alexander
    LB Daniel Bituli
    TE Kendall Blanton
    C Cohl Cabral
    G Jamil Demby
    WR Earnest Edwards
    DB Jake Gervase
    K Lirim Hajrullahu
    DB Juju Hughes
    RB John Kelly
    G Jeremiah Kolone
    WR J.J. Koski
    DB Dayan Lake
    K Austin MacGinnis
    DB Tyrique McGhee
    LB Derrick Moncrief
    WR Easop Winston

    The deadline for NFL teams to reduce their 80-man offseason rosters to 53 players is Saturday at 1 p.m. pacific time. With these moves, the Rams now have 63 players on their roster.

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Just a friendly reminder that players have to clear waivers before they can be brought back to the practice squad, so even if they are a strong *candidate* for the PS, nothing there is official until they are released, clear waivers and are re-signed with that designation.

    #120422
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    i desperately want to see christian rozeboom, jonah williams, and michael hoecht on the final 53.

    three undrafted rookies with some serious physical attributes.

    looks like they still have 10 cuts to get down to 53?

    #120423
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    LA Rams reportedly release LB Johnston and DL Hoecht

    johnston confirms he’s cut. rumor that hoecht has been cut.

    #120424
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    johnston confirms he’s cut. rumor that hoecht has been cut.

    I had those guys being cut. I think they would keep Williams and Rozeboom. I think this year, it would be easy for a lot of the cuts to get to the Practice Squad.

    Agamemnon

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Johnston had an uphill climb after such a significant knee injury/surgery his senior season at Baylor. A year on a practice squad to get his feet back under him and get those mental reps handled will probably be really good for him, though it doesn’t take away how tough today is

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    Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
    #Rams CB Donte Deayon, whose energetic personality has been featured in Hard Knocks, will be waived today, source says. Possible addition to the practice squad if he clears.

    #120432
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    I had those guys being cut. I think they would keep Williams and Rozeboom. I think this year, it would be easy for a lot of the cuts to get to the Practice Squad.

    yeah. and it sounds like the plan is to put them on the ps.

    i think rozeboom could be a big surprise this year.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Worth reiterating today: @NFL has expanded practice squad rosters to 16 this year, and that includes up to six spots that can be devoted to vested veterans – or players with four or more years of NFL service time.

    Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
    It’s one thing to make the 53-man roster at 4pm ET today, it’s another thing to make it to Monday. For every player claimed off the waiver wire for a fresh start, another player who thought he made the team gets cut. It’s a rough business.

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    Agamemnon

    #120443
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    https://www.therams.com/news/waive-nine-players-howard-injured-reserve

    Rams waive nine players, place Howard on injured reserve and Robinson on reserve/non-football injury list
    Sep 05, 2020 at 12:29 PM

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Los Angeles Rams announced they have waived the following players:

    DT Marquise Copeland
    DB Donte Deayon
    DT Michael Hoecht
    LB Clay Johnston
    LB Natrez Patrick
    QB Bryce Perkins
    LB Christian Rozeboom
    DE Jonah Williams

    The Rams also waived/injured linebacker Justin Lawler. On Aug. 18, head coach Sean McVay said Lawler got his foot stepped on and was being evaluated.

    Los Angeles has also placed linebacker Travin Howard on injured reserve. McVay announced earlier this week that Howard would miss the rest of the 2020 season with a torn meniscus.

    Additionally, defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson has been placed on the reserve/non-football injury list.

    The deadline for NFL teams to reduce their 80-man offseason rosters to 53 players is today at 1 p.m. pacific time. With these moves, the Rams’ roster is at 52 players.

    #120444
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    well i hope these guys can make it to the practice squad.

    #120445
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    Agamemnon

    #120446
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    Here are all the guys they cut.

    Agamemnon

    #120447
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    defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson has been placed on the reserve/non-football injury list.

    AlbaNY_Ram

    The Rams could move Robinson to the Reserve/NFI.

    From this article [en.wikipedia.org]:

    If a player on the active/NFI list is still injured or ill by the final roster cutdown date, they can be placed on the reserve/non-football injury or reserve/non-football illness lists and not count towards the 53-man roster limit.

    Players on the reserve/non-football injury or reserve/non-football illness lists are ineligible to practice or play in games for the first six weeks of the regular season. After six weeks, a player can begin practicing with their team but cannot be moved to the active roster until after the team has played its first eight games of the season. When a player starts practicing, a three-week window begins in which the player can be moved to the active roster. If a player does not get activated after the three-week window ends, they must remain on the reserve/NFI list for the rest of the season.

    #120448
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    . After six weeks, a player can begin practicing with their team but cannot be moved to the active roster until after the team has played its first eight games of the season.

    So he’s back to play in 8 weeks at the soonest. Which, since the Rams have a bye in week 9, means he’s back in season week 10 (Rams 9th game) against Seattle on Nov. 15th.

    Since the Rams play against NFC West teams 5 times in the final 8 weeks–including 3 against Seattle’s and SF’s running games–they might be able to use a fresh set of big guy legs in those games.

    ….

    #120450
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    I did not think the Rams would keep 10 offensive linemen. I am glad they did.

    Agamemnon

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    The Rams’ roster is at 52 players. So, yeah, they’re on the hunt.

    In fact they have probably already signed someone since they have to be at 53 by 1 pm.

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    OLB Jachai Polite, a third-round pick by the NY Jets in 2019, has made the Rams roster. He spent last season on the Rams practice squad after the Jets released him.

    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    As of now — things can change fast — Rams also kept six receivers, four tight ends(!) and 10 offensive linemen(!!)

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    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    Sean McVay on being at 52 not 53 says @RamsNFL will be looking at waiver wire for final spot, or potentially elevating someone from their own practice squad if they come up empty.

    Sean McVay on @RamsNFL OLB Terrell Lewis: I’ll be able to give clarity on his knee situation on Wednesday. Definitely WILL NOT be able to play against Dallas.

    𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤@TL_LARams
    Terrell Lewis was behind Leonard Floyd, Samson Ebukam and likely also Ogbo Okoronkro going into week 1 anyway. His impact is likely to be more felt later in the year.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Sean McVay says the team would like to bring Bryce Perkins back on practice squad – but guys shhhhh he has to sneak under waivers first

    Greg Beacham@gregbeacham
    Rams coach Sean McVay on keeping only 3 ILBs but 5 safeties on the roster: “We felt like this was reflective of our best 53 players.” He notes that none of this is set in stone, and the mix could shift any day.

    Sean McVay says the Rams haven’t signed anybody for that 53rd roster spot: “What we’ll probably look at is see what the waiver wire looks like and see if we can claim somebody who looks interesting to us.” If not, they’ll elevate somebody from the practice squad.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    Sean McVay on the @RamsNFL choosing Samuel Sloman to be their placekicker: It was really tight all the way through. Sloman made a push these last few days. Played his best at the end. Pop in his leg. Impressed with mental toughness in these circumstances.

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    I would doubt Rozeboom makes it through waivers based on UDFA interest from other teams, but we’ll see.

    #120456
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    ==

    Steve Wyche@wyche89
    That’s Samuel Sloman….

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    Bate™@NoPlanB_
    A source close to the situation tells me that Aaron Donald has made the Rams’ 53-man roster

    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    If my math is correct (warning: last math class was geometry as HS sophomore) Rams roster — with one spot open — averages 25.1 years old. Akers and Burgess youngest at 21, Whitworth oldest at 38. Repeat: If my math is correct…

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Gotta somehow stay younger than the staff lol

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    The Rams are keeping 10 offensive linemen. Read into that what you will.

    Andrew Whitworth, Joe Noteboom, Austin Blythe, Austin Corbett, Rob Havenstein, David Edwards, Bobby Evans, Brian Allen, Coleman Shelton, Tremayne Anchrum Jr.

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    Position by position, what to make of the Rams’ initial roster

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/2045050/2020/09/05/position-by-position-what-to-make-of-the-rams-initial-roster/?source=emp_shared_article

    Before you read this column, please be aware: Many roster-related items can change, and quickly, over the next few days!

    Please also be aware of the following facts:

    • The Rams do not have to release an official injury report until Wednesday, as they enter the first week of the official regular season. While head coach Sean McVay did officially rule out rookie outside linebacker Terrell Lewis ahead of the Sept. 13 season opener against Dallas, he said he’d have further clarity about what is being described as a unique, complicated knee issue by Wednesday. Also by Wednesday, McVay hopes to offer further news about running back Darrell Henderson, who is rehabbing a hamstring injury. Henderson has progressed to route-running in his rehab process, McVay said, and he is not ruled out for the Dallas game.

    • The Rams might even have a roster change by the end of Saturday. They are at 52 players, one fewer than the maximum, and as I type this they are preparing to sit at the No. 20 spot on the waiver wire, waiting to see who is around at that point. If they don’t like anybody more than a couple of the guys they released (hint: inside linebacker Christian Rozeboom), they will bring one of their own guys back.

    • The Rams officially placed linebacker Travin Howard (knee) on injured reserve on Saturday, and waived outside linebacker Justin Lawler with an injury settlement. Defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson, who they’d like to get back this season, was designated to the non-football injury list and no longer counts against the roster; as The Athletic reported at the beginning of training camp, Robinson is dealing with a cardiovascular issue that team physicians found during the routine testing process.

    OK, let’s get right to it, with analysis, notables and relevant tidbits about the Rams’ first iteration of a 53-man roster:

    Quarterbacks (2)
    Jared Goff, John Wolford

    This has been pretty much a no-brainer all spring and summer, made official on Saturday. But the guy I’m keeping an eye on is undrafted free agent quarterback Bryce Perkins, who really impressed in camp. The Rams would love to sneak him through the waiver wire over the weekend, and perhaps would even go so far as to place him on their “protected” practice squad on Tuesday.

    But I have some doubts about Perkins escaping another team’s grasp. The Rams were clever in their release announcements, in that the two guys they like, but who are really at risk on waivers — Perkins and Rozeboom — were not included in the initial wave of 17 cuts on Friday. Instead, the Rams sent Perkins and Rozeboom into the breach right at the buzzer, when the wire is absolutely flooded with names, perhaps hoping the sheer mass of bodies will help them go unnoticed.

    Running backs (4)
    Malcolm Brown, Cam Akers, Darrell Henderson, Xavier Jones

    Good for Jones, who, as McVay said on Saturday afternoon, earned this spot. The undrafted free agent rookie out of SMU ran really hard in the last week and a half or so of camp, when he got more reps due to Henderson’s injury. Jones even got a shout-out — by name! — from star defensive tackle Aaron Donald near the end of camp. After that, he felt like an obvious addition.

    Wide receivers (6)
    Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Van Jefferson, Josh Reynolds, Nsimba Webster, Trishton Jackson

    I had the Rams pegged at keeping five receivers instead of six; however, I understand taking a little precaution against injury. Plus, McVay does love his receivers. Jackson and Webster both have return ability.

    Tight ends (4)
    Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Johnny Mundt, Brycen Hopkins

    The Rams actually got a few calls on Everett about potential trades through the summer, two league sources told me, but were shut down by the Rams. The team will continue to get as much production as it can out of the Higbee-Everett tandem, and I predict more 12 personnel to start this season. They also have Hopkins waiting in the wings as both a red-zone threat and as an option if they move on from Everett (a free agent after this season) or Higbee (whose contract has an out clause in 2021).

    Offensive linemen (10)
    Andrew Whitworth, Joe Noteboom, Austin Blythe, Austin Corbett, Rob Havenstein, Brian Allen, David Edwards, Bobby Evans, Coleman Shelton, Tremayne Anchrum

    Keeping 10 offensive linemen might seem like a lot at first — and on paper what appears to be three centers — but look closer. Several of the depth guys can play multiple positions on the interior, and I would imagine Anchrum, the promising rookie out of Clemson, also is picking up some left tackle reps in case of an emergency. The Rams had a position catastrophe last season due to injuries, so more bodies here (who have more flexibility) might be smart. Plus, without a spring to work together, the Rams can keep the group intact long enough to really get a feel for these guys.

    Defensive linemen (6)
    Michael Brockers, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Aaron Donald, Greg Gaines, Morgan Fox, Eric Banks

    This is pretty much who we expected, except you love to see the addition of Banks, the undrafted free agent out of Texas-San Antonio (also a previous stop for current Rams defensive line coach Eric Henderson).

    This spring, Banks worked at a local feed-and-tack store, according to the San Antonio Express News, as he waited for training camp to start. He’s also one of three undrafted free agents in the 2020 class kept by the Rams (with Jones and Jackson).

    Outside linebackers (5)
    Leonard Floyd, Samson Ebukam, Terrell Lewis, Obo Okoronkwo, Jachai Polite

    I had Polite sneaking onto the 53-man after watching him rep among the top five outside linebackers through camp. Polite is a bit of an enigma after a tumultuous 2019 season, and has been quiet so far with the Rams. I’m looking forward to getting to know him more and learning about his journey.

    Inside linebackers (3, so far)
    Micah Kiser, Kenny Young, Troy Reeder

    I super-duper do not expect the inside linebacker rotation to stay this thin — there is a total of 14 games of starting experience among these three — and if the Rams don’t find someone they like on waivers, they probably will bring back Rozeboom (if he clears).

    Meanwhile, as I’ve repeated probably to the annoyance of some who have followed closely, if defensive coordinator Brandon Staley’s scheme does indeed draw some roots from that of former boss Vic Fangio, he will use heavier nickel and dime packages, which in turn will alleviate some of the pressure put on the middle of the field. In fact, I asked safety John Johnson on Saturday how much more influence his position specfically will have in “quarterbacking” the defense, and he said he’s ready to relish the opportunity.

    Defensive backs (9)
    Jalen Ramsey, Darious Williams, Troy Hill, John Johnson, Taylor Rapp, David Long Jr, Jordan Fuller, Terrell Burgess, Nick Scott

    No surprises here, although I’m eager for Rams fans to see how these guys are all used in rotation. The two rookies, Burgess and Fuller, especially impressed coaches with how quickly they were able to fill in at various spots in the defensive backfield, especially with Rapp out the first week and a half with an injury. Characteristics I’m expecting from Staley’s defense include safeties being aggressive and commanding, asserting matchups between smaller and larger-bodied nickels, and outside cornerbacks who play physically and contain the flat in run support. Exciting stuff, guys.

    Specialists (3)
    Johnny Hekker, Jake McQuaide, Samuel Sloman

    As I reported Friday, it wasn’t just Sloman’s status as a draft pick that helped cement his status over competing kickers Austin MacGinnis and Lirim Hajrullahu. Sloman apparently was really impressive in the last week of camp after a slower start, and both his accuracy and leg strength (including on kickoffs) impressed special-teams coach John Bonamego.

    It will be a massive first week in the NFL for the rookie kicker. He’s kicking at SoFi Stadiu against the Dallas Cowboys, who now employ former longtime Rams kicker Greg Zuerlein.

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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    On a post-draft show w/ @JB_Long, Rams Senior Personnel Exec Brian Xanders said Samuel Sloman lived w/ Miami (Ohio)’s o-linemen & wore 79 to fit in w/ his OL teammates. @JourdanRodrigue later discovered they had nicknames for him. Today, Sloman said one was the “Kosher Cannon.”

    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Cuts day is a full spectrum of emotion for guys…can’t help but feel happy when you see an UDFA stick to even an initial 53-man…and so far the Rams have kept three out of a really strong class:
    RB Xavier Jones (SMU)
    DT Eric Banks (UTSA)
    WR Trishton Jackson (Syracuse)

    We obviously have to see these guys play live before jumping to conclusions

    /proceeds to jump to conclusion/

    but says a lot about confidence in this Rams draft/UDFA class that so many guys not only made initial 53, but figure to contribute. That was a necessity w $ limits.

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    DT Eric Banks

    from https://ramblinfan.com/2020/05/18/la-rams-news-22-udfa-players-analysis-post-2020-nfl-draft/5/

    Banks is a 6-foot-5 270-pound defensive end/outside linebacker hybrid who is very good at rushing the quarterback. While he may have an uphill battle to make the team, he does have connections. Rams defensive line coach Eric Henderson coached Banks in 2016, and no doubt pulled some strings to get Banks an offer from the Rams. Banks is a four-year player whose best season was 2017 when he registered 24 tackles, 8.5 TFLs, 1.5 sacks, one pass defense, and three forced fumbles. Despite a background from a small school, Banks has a good nose for the football and could be a strong contributor on special teams.

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