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March 17, 2025 at 2:53 pm #155567
znModeratorPro Football Focus’ Max Chadwick believes the Rams’ biggest issue remains at cornerback because of the team’s current depth chart of Darious Williams, Cobie Durant and Emmanuel Forbes Jr.
“The Rams have struggled to replace Jalen Ramsey since trading him to the Miami Dolphins two years ago,” Chadwich wrote. “None of the cornerbacks on their roster posted a 65.0-plus PFF overall grade last season.”
March 17, 2025 at 4:31 pm #155570znModeratorfrom PFF, 2025 NFL Free Agency: 5 best value signings –https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-free-agency-5-best-value-signings-2025?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=null
T Alaric Jackson re-signs with Los Angeles Rams
Jackson’s deal is a very slight annual overpay but locking up their starting left tackle for three more years was the right move for the Rams. His 79.2 PFF pass-blocking grade ranked 22nd among all offensive tackles last season.
March 17, 2025 at 5:44 pm #155571
nittany ramModeratorPro Football Focus’ Max Chadwick believes the Rams’ biggest issue remains at cornerback because of the team’s current depth chart of Darious Williams, Cobie Durant and Emmanuel Forbes Jr.
“The Rams have struggled to replace Jalen Ramsey since trading him to the Miami Dolphins two years ago,” Chadwich wrote. “None of the cornerbacks on their roster posted a 65.0-plus PFF overall grade last season.”
They are making GMing harder than it has to be. Just resign A Witherspoon already. Sheesh.
March 17, 2025 at 8:08 pm #155572
wvParticipantI dunno what they need, but I’m ALWAYS worried about the OLine. Havenstein is old. He’s got to break down soon. They jettisoned J.Jackson the Guard. I kinda sorta suspect they dont have ‘quite’ the roster to march through a Super Bowl run next season. I suspect they will be a player or two short.
Unless they pull off some sort of Von Miller / OBJ type deal during the season.
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vMarch 17, 2025 at 8:41 pm #155573
InvaderRamModeratorPro Football Focus’ Max Chadwick believes the Rams’ biggest issue remains at cornerback because of the team’s current depth chart of Darious Williams, Cobie Durant and Emmanuel Forbes Jr.
i’m just not sure i like a CB at 26. unless they trade up. or trade down. or someone falls. but i definitely don’t want them to reach. i’d prefer they trade up. i don’t want just a solid corner. i want a superstar if they draft one. but i’m not sure i see one. travis hunter probably but they’d have to give up a lot to get him. otherwise i prefer a fa signing.
but what do i know?
March 17, 2025 at 8:54 pm #155575InvaderRamModeratorok i like that barron kid too.
March 17, 2025 at 8:57 pm #155577InvaderRamModeratorbut i also see corner as a position they could easily add through fa. not sure about the other positions.
March 17, 2025 at 9:38 pm #155578znModeratorThey have a hole or 2 to fill but this is already a better team that the one that game just short against the Eagles on the road in the snow.’
Adams and Ford are good signings. They are set up to draft well. This will be a better team than the one that took the division last year.
Last year they got solid to great contributions from 6 draft picks: Verse, Fiske, Kinchens, Karty, Limmer, and Whittington (ie. with Whitt it was not just on offense, on different special teams units too). That includes the defensive rookie of the year.
In the last 3 drafts combined they had 9 6th round picks. Usually the hit rate on round 6 is anywhere from 2% to 8.84%, depending on your source. That means that 9 6th round picks should yield at best 1 player. But of out of those 9 Rams picks I would say so far that we know the Rams hit on 5: Lake (2022), Ethan Evans (2023), and 3 from 2024: Whittington, Karty, & Limmer. That’s a 55.6% hit rate. They have 4 more 6th round picks in 2025.
So IMO if they continue this good streak drafting, they ought to come up with 4-5 players, ie. counting
both immediate and depth/future contributors. As a result, the 2025 team could be even better than we already know it is.March 17, 2025 at 9:48 pm #155579
ZooeyModeratorThey have a hole or 2 to fill but this is already a better team that the one that game just short against the Eagles on the road in the snow.’
Adams and Ford are good signings. They are set up to draft well. This will be a better team than the one that took the division last year.
Last year they got solid to great contributions from 6 draft picks: Verse, Fiske, Kinchens, Karty, Limmer, and Whittington (ie. with Whitt it was not just on offense, on different special teams units too). That includes the defensive rookie of the year.
In the last 3 drafts combined they had 9 6th round picks. Usually the hit rate on round 6 is anywhere from 2% to 8.84%, depending on your source. That means that 9 6th round picks should yield at best 1 player. But of out of those 9 Rams picks I would say so far that we know the Rams hit on 5: Lake (2022), Ethan Evans (2023), and 3 from 2024: Whittington, Karty, & Limmer. That’s a 55.6% hit rate. They have 4 more 6th round picks in 2025.
So IMO if they continue this good streak drafting, they ought to come up with 4-5 players, ie. counting
both immediate and depth/future contributors. As a result, the 2025 team could be even better than we already know it is.And now that they’re set at P and K, they can focus on drafting a long-snapper.
March 18, 2025 at 3:26 am #155580znModeratorThey have a hole or 2 to fill but this is already a better team that the one that game just short against the Eagles on the road in the snow.’
Adams and Ford are good signings. They are set up to draft well. This will be a better team than the one that took the division last year.
Last year they got solid to great contributions from 6 draft picks: Verse, Fiske, Kinchens, Karty, Limmer, and Whittington (ie. with Whitt it was not just on offense, on different special teams units too). That includes the defensive rookie of the year.
In the last 3 drafts combined they had 9 6th round picks. Usually the hit rate on round 6 is anywhere from 2% to 8.84%, depending on your source. That means that 9 6th round picks should yield at best 1 player. But of out of those 9 Rams picks I would say so far that we know the Rams hit on 5: Lake (2022), Ethan Evans (2023), and 3 from 2024: Whittington, Karty, & Limmer. That’s a 55.6% hit rate. They have 4 more 6th round picks in 2025.
So IMO if they continue this good streak drafting, they ought to come up with 4-5 players, ie. counting
both immediate and depth/future contributors. As a result, the 2025 team could be even better than we already know it is.And now that they’re set at P and K, they can focus on drafting a long-snapper.
Even if you discount the kickers and make it just 7 picks, that’s still 3 “hits” in round 6 out of 7 picks, which is 42.8%, which is 5 times the normal hit percentage.
Meanwhile in the last 2 years, after they had a serious re-evaluation of their drafting, they have had 7 hits in rounds 1-3, which now includes 6 starters (Avilla, Turner, Young, Verse, Fiske, Kinchens), or an unbelievable 85.7% hit rate.
If they can keep this up, they will be getting a few more players. Or to be more specific, if the percentages stay the same or close to the same, they will be getting 4-5 starting and/or contributing players out of this draft.
March 18, 2025 at 9:15 am #155582ZooeyModeratorMeanwhile in the last 2 years, after they had a serious re-evaluation of their drafting, they have had 7 hits in rounds 1-3, which now includes 6 starters (Avilla, Turner, Young, Verse, Fiske, Kinchens), or an unbelievable 85.7% hit rate.
If they can keep this up, they will be getting a few more players. Or to be more specific, if the percentages stay the same or close to the same, they will be getting 4-5 starting and/or contributing players out of this draft.
Just to be absolutely clear, I am not complaining about the Rams’ drafting ability.
I think I read something here a year or so ago about the Rams’ ranking in draft success, and they were up there, but not really at the top. I don’t know how you can really do any better than the Rams have done. Of course, the past two drafts have been off the charts, it seems like. Not just guys who stuck, but guys who are substantially better than their draft positions.
Yeah. Another draft like the past two, please.
March 18, 2025 at 10:23 am #155583znModeratorJust to be absolutely clear, I am not complaining about the Rams’ drafting ability.
I know. I was just grabbing a chance to type it up.
March 18, 2025 at 4:31 pm #155589ZooeyModeratorWho is Nate Landman?
March 18, 2025 at 6:21 pm #155593
canadaramParticipantThe Rams certainly don’t seem willing to commit a significant percentage of cap dollars to the ILB position. I’m not saying that it will blow up in their faces, just an observation more than anything. Landman is a decent run defender, but a liability in passing situations.
March 18, 2025 at 6:37 pm #155594znModeratorWho is Nate Landman?
from Lance Zierlein: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nate-landman/32004c41-4e10-8404-7773-9eee03d2b855
Colorado
Height
6’ 2 1/2’’
Weight
238 lbsOverview
Four-year starter with excellent intangibles but below-average positional traits. Landman’s best seasons were in 2018 and 2019 but his Achilles tear in 2020 hurt his momentum and his 2021 tape was very average prior to suffering a shoulder injury. The lack of flow quickness and agility prevents him from consistently acting upon what his eyes tell him. Landman’s inconsistencies with coverage and tackling further hinder his chances of making an NFL roster.
Strengths
Team captain.
Sets the front and gets teammates lined up.
Good ability to key and diagnose the blocking scheme.
Steps downhill into leveraged positioning in the gap.
Peeks past incoming block to read play development.
Possesses the temperament teams look for inside.
Reads and darts into passing lanes in spot drops.Weaknesses
Below-average athleticism and pursuit speed.
Unable to flow quickly enough to stay ahead of blockers.
Change-of-direction quickness is lacking.
Needs better pop to take on and stack up the block.
Fails to come to balance quickly enough as pursuit tackler.
Lack of agility and length limits open-field tackling success.
Will need to come off field on passing downs.
Suffered an Achilles tear in 2020.March 18, 2025 at 8:15 pm #155595ZooeyModeratorI’ve seen a few predicitions that the Rams will sign CJ Mosely, a 5-time pro bowl LB. I wonder if Landman kills that idea.
It also seems noteworthy that Mosely is not ranked in the top 100 FA by either CBS or The Athletic. FWIW.
March 19, 2025 at 7:59 am #155599znModeratorJim Youngblood 53@53_jim70721
I doubt Landman is a 3-down LBer, unless he improves his pass rush stuff … but as a 240-pound MIKE-type, I think he’s going to help the run defense and maybe he’ll continue to force fumbles ..March 19, 2025 at 10:23 am #155602znModeratorJim Youngblood 53@53_jim70721
I doubt Landman is a 3-down LBer, unless he improves his pass rush stuff … but as a 240-pound MIKE-type, I think he’s going to help the run defense and maybe he’ll continue to force fumbles ..Ladman shuffes his feet, keeps balances and READS the wham/sift action of the H-back … mental play on this is good as is the tackle. And pushes RB back… he's maybe 240 pounds or so? Not sure. Weights can be off. pic.twitter.com/9CqeCUasQa
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) March 19, 2025
March 19, 2025 at 10:36 am #155603znModeratorSosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
Nate Landman in run defense among LBs in 2023, per @PFF (min. 150 snaps):52 stops (1st)
12.6% stop percentage (1st)
2.7 average depth of tackle (13th)Will need to dive into the tape but those are some impressive numbers.
March 19, 2025 at 10:40 am #155604znModeratorSame kind of thing, Landman is MIKE, gets to sideline and takes right angle, and pops the runner, forces him to lose ball. A thumper-type, cleans up missed tackles by Dbs pic.twitter.com/zKpxJV1IfN
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) March 19, 2025
March 19, 2025 at 10:44 am #155607znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2025/3/18/24388891/rams-free-agency-nate-landman-linebacker
International implications:
Landman was born in Zimbabwe. He became a US citizen during his sophomore year of college. He’s currently the only player in the NFL of Zimbabwean heritage, though Andrew Mukuba of Texas should soon join him. Mukuba, a safety, will likely hear his name called on either day two or three of next month’s NFL Draft.
By the numbers:
Landman appears to be a better run defender than coverage player at linebacker. He played 809 and 543 snaps for the Falcons in 2023 and 2024, respectively, posting Pro Football Focus (PFF) run defense grades of 85.4 (10th of 90 players using a 20% snap threshold) and 73.9 (29th of 94).
On the 2024 Falcons defense, Landman ranked third in run defense behind safety Jesse Bates and linebacker JD Bertrand.
In 2023 he also ranked third with corner Tre Flowers and Bates coming in ahead of him.
March 19, 2025 at 2:01 pm #155608nittany ramModeratorRams resigned Witherspoon as I requested.
https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/1902412238411198585?s=46&t=HWVy98OnVkQzKJrO607ZCw
March 19, 2025 at 6:48 pm #155611InvaderRamModeratorRams resigned Witherspoon as I requested.
https://x.com/jfowlerespn/status/1902412238411198585?s=46&t=HWVy98OnVkQzKJrO607ZCw
oh hell yeah!
corner could still be in play with the first pick, but now their options are just so wide open.
March 20, 2025 at 7:57 pm #155615znModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothers
Really like the offseason the Rams have put together so far. After settling the Matthew Stafford contract situation, they:Re-signed:
• Jimmy Garoppolo
• Alaric Jackson
• Tutu Atwell
• Ahkello WitherspoonSigned (via FA):
• Davante Adams
• Poona Ford
• Coleman Shelton
• Nate LandmanTraded/released:
• Jonah Jackson
• Cooper Kupp
• Joe Noteboom (is he still on the roster?)Tendered:
• Dylan McMahonRams are definitely in a BPA situation in this upcoming draft, with emphasis on CB, TE, and iLB. They have a roster right now that is built for a deep playoff run.
March 20, 2025 at 8:05 pm #155616znModeratorJoe Noteboom (is he still on the roster?)
Noteboom is not listed on the Ram official roster. In Over.the.Cap, he is counted as dead money on a contract that expired in 2024 & OtC does not list him as being on the Rams roster.
March 21, 2025 at 12:07 pm #155630ZooeyModeratorJoe Noteboom (is he still on the roster?)
Noteboom is not listed on the Ram official roster. In Over.the.Cap, he is counted as dead money on a contract that expired in 2024 & OtC does not list him as being on the Rams roster.
This is surprising to me. I haven’t heard Noteboom’s name the entire offseason. Come to find out he is a castaway on a the Sea of Indifference?
I mean… I’d prefer the Rams keep him, but I can’t believe he isn’t an upgrade over several dozen players in the league right now. Maybe he has out-priced himself with whatever his vet minimum is, or maybe he hasn’t reconciled himself to the vet minimum, but it’s hard to believe there isn’t a team that would get better by signing him.
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