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December 28, 2017 at 12:12 pm #79703znModerator
Bonsignore: Rams coach Sean McVay makes the right call to rest starters against 49ers
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
What if I had told you at the beginning of the season the Rams would end the regular season as the NFC West division champions, earn a first-round home playoff game at the Coliseum, produce an MVP candidate in Todd Gurley, an NFL Defensive Player of the Year favorite in Aaron Donald, a Pro Bowl quarterback in Jared Goff and an NFL Coach of the Year candidate in Sean McVay?
If you’re a long-suffering Rams fan who just endured 13 straight non-winning seasons, the obvious immediate reaction would have been: Where do I sign up?
Followed by a sheepish: “Hold up. So what’s the catch?”
You just knew that was coming, right? And there is one, as it turns out.
The trade-off for all of that happening — and as we all know now, it all has happened — is that the Rams would rest many of their starting players in their regular-season finale. It’s not quite mailing the game in or conceding defeat. But, well, you might want to lay off this one if you’re a betting person.
McVay let that cat out of the bag when he said he’d most likely rest his key players on Sunday when the Rams close out their historic turnaround season at the Coliseum.
“I think you might see us rest some guys and use this week where, you don’t ever take anything for granted, but knowing that you do have a home playoff game regardless of how things play out, this might provide an opportunity for us to get some guys healthy,” McVay said.
Big deal, right? It’s essentially a meaningless game, the only real element at stake whether the Rams claim the third our fourth seed in the playoffs, who they’ll play in the opening round and what side of the postseason bracket they’ll end up.
In the whole scheme of things, none of those factors are worth risking injuries to key players or taking advantage of a chance to rest or heal up veteran players for the playoffs.
On top of everything else, it’s a no-brainer coaching decision to play it safe and prudently. And even the most hardcore fan should understand.
“(It’s) a luxury that we want to try to take advantage of, and everything that we did is what we think is best for our football team,” McVay said.
Makes all the sense in the world.
Oh by the way, did I mention the season-ending finale is against the hated 49ers at the Coliseum? The 49ers, you say? Hmm. Well then. That changes things.
At least that’s the sense I’m getting on social media, as some fans are complaining the Rams are positioning themselves for a loss against their longtime Bay Area rival by playing it safe this week.
Or arguing that the good money they shelled out for tickets should guarantee they get the best lineup the Rams can offer, rather than some knockoff consisting of a bunch of second- and third-stringers. Especially when the opponent just happens to be wearing scarlet and gold.
To which I reply: Oh come on now. Seriously?
There isn’t a single valid reason to expose Gurley or Donald or Goff to injury when nothing more than an insignificant playoff seed is at stake. And the only thing McVay and the Rams — and you as fans for that matter — should be focused on is being in the best possible physical shape to start the playoffs a week from Sunday.
There will be plenty of chances to play the 49ers straight up with every intention of beating them moving forward. Especially now with Goff in place and, apparently, Jimmy Garappolo the franchise quarterback San Francisco has long been searching for.
But Sunday isn’t one of them. Which is why Goff and Gurley will be — and should be — watching from the sideline.
“I agree with the decision on our coaching staff’s part to get some guys rest and get some guys healthy,” Goff said. “Yeah, I think it’s good to get myself back to feeling really good and feeling fresh.”
I’ve heard another argument, the one about trying to maintain the current seed to ensure better first- and second-round matchups. And still others in which it’s more beneficial to drop to the fourth seed to avoid having to play this team or that team.
Everyone celebrating Rams resting starters Sunday as setup to playing Philly in round 2. One problem, gotta win round 1 first. Lose Sunday and play Carolina and Cam Newton instead of Falcons/Seahawks. Be careful what you wish for.
— Loren Ledin (@lorenledin) December 27, 2017
You can argue your way in circles trying to mentally game the situation to the Rams’ advantage or figure out which seed is more advantageous moving forward.
It’s all fool’s talk. The minute you start focusing on fixing situations to line up certain teams to maximize supposedly beneficial matchups is the very second you lose sight of what the Rams’ playoff success is ultimately dependent on. And that’s the Rams themselves.
Which is why the right decision on Sunday is to take care of Number One. Not to line up the best first- or second-round opponent or game site.
But to make sure the Rams are positioned as best as possible — physically above all else — to make a prolonged postseason run.
December 28, 2017 at 12:48 pm #79705ZooeyModeratorHey. I agree with Vincent. How about that?
I totally agree that being in the best physical and mental condition possible outweighs the bracket.
December 28, 2017 at 1:10 pm #79707nittany ramModeratorHey. I agree with Vincent. How about that?
I totally agree that being in the best physical and mental condition possible outweighs the bracket.
My first impression of Bonsignore was that he was LA’s version of Miklatz. And there are times when he can act that way.
But overall, he’s usually pretty reasonable.
My take: I hate the idea of sending the 9ers and their fans into the offseason feeling good about themselves and their team. But I also agree that being healthy and rested for the playoffs trumps any other consideration.
December 28, 2017 at 1:34 pm #79708PA RamParticipantThis is a no-brainer to me. Rest them. Eventually you will have to play the best team and I’d rather they do that healthy instead of facing a weaker team injured.
This is a gift. As close to a bye week as you can get. After this there is no more time off.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 28, 2017 at 1:35 pm #79709znModeratorI hate the idea of sending the 9ers and their fans into the offseason feeling good about themselves and their team.
Think of it this way.
It’s a trick.
December 28, 2017 at 2:12 pm #79711TSRFParticipantKind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. I’d like to see them run the same O and try and highlight Mannion. Hey, if he really plays good, we may get a decent draft pick for him.
December 28, 2017 at 2:24 pm #79712ZooeyModeratorKind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. I’d like to see them run the same O and try and highlight Mannion. Hey, if he really plays good, we may get a decent draft pick for him.
I’d rather he play really well, and the Rams keep him at a bargain price.
December 28, 2017 at 2:27 pm #79713ZooeyModeratorMy first impression of Bonsignore was that he was LA’s version of Miklatz. And there are times when he can act that way.
He’s Miklasz. IMO.
Doesn’t make him wrong.
Just makes him Miklasz.
December 28, 2017 at 2:29 pm #79714znModeratorI’d rather he play really well, and the Rams keep him at a bargain price.
Just to be pedantically clear, and not that you said or thought any different, but, Mannion is signed through 2018.
Just enough time to establish himself as a starter so the Rams can unload the massively ineffective, woeful Jarret Goff.
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December 28, 2017 at 2:35 pm #79715nittany ramModeratorMy first impression of Bonsignore was that he was LA’s version of Miklatz. And there are times when he can act that way.
He’s Miklasz. IMO.
Doesn’t make him wrong.
Just makes him Miklasz.
He may be Miklasz as you insist. I have no opinion on that.
My only contention is that he’s no Miklatz.
And I stand by that.
December 28, 2017 at 3:43 pm #79719canadaramParticipantI’m totally good with resting guys. I don’t care about the idea that the Rams might be lining themselves up for a supposedly easier opponent in Philadelphia. I doubt that is even part of their thinking. Whoever they play in the first round will be a formidable opponent. I’m just happy that the important puzzle pieces will be in place come their first playoff game in a million years.
December 31, 2017 at 9:53 am #79794znModeratorI’ve seen this argument out there and it’s worth considering, though in the end I argue for sitting the starters. One view against it says, the Rams are not guaranteed the 3rd seed so this win is huge. What happens if the #3 and #4 seeds advance to the Championship game? With a loss and so falling to the 4th seed Rams lose homefield.
I can’t read minds but this is a possible answer. I think it’s possible they have faith in their “road warrior” mentality. I also think it’s possible they realize they actually do not really have a home field advantage anyway. So weighing being on the road v. losing a starter, I THINK they think that they are better off with the starter. I think they think the real way to maximize their opportunity is to give key starters a “bye” week rather than risk losing one of them in a game that will (given the road warrior thing) gain them no actual advantage. Also, and this is just gravy, I think they want to know what they have on the OL and at qb, in terms of Mannion and the others.
December 31, 2017 at 12:44 pm #79797PA RamParticipantI’ve seen this argument out there and it’s worth considering, though in the end I argue for sitting the starters. One view against it says, the Rams are not guaranteed the 3rd seed so this win is huge. What happens if the #3 and #4 seeds advance to the Championship game? With a loss and so falling to the 4th seed Rams lose homefield.
I think you pretty much answered this.
But yes–they are 7-1 on the road and 5-3(counting the England game so not even really a home game) at home.
On the scale of important things for this team THIS year–health far outweighs home field.
I get it–but this is the PLAYOFFS and they put themselves as having to win two straight road games against great teams to make the Superbowl. But again–this team does not fear the road at all. They have played in loud stadiums. They know what they have to do.
If they were fighting for the #1 seed and could guarantee home field throughout the playoffs or perhaps even the #2 seed, I’d think that they should play the starters to secure the position because they would still have a bye week coming to rest guys. They don’t have that. This is their only chance to rest guys before the big push.
IMO, they have to do that.
Can you imagine the outrage if McVay played them and Gurley or Donald were injured?
The press would destroy him.
He’s being smart. I like it. I agree with it.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
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