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October 18, 2016 at 12:33 am #55537
znModeratorTop 5 Catches of Week 6
Check out where Rams wide receiver Kenny Britt lands on the best catches from Week 6 of NFL action.
http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Top-5-Catches-of-Week-6/0e2d3a1b-517e-422d-984b-5bcbd3394446
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Keenum sets franchise record with 19 consecutive completions
Los Angeles Rams QB Case Keenum set a Rams franchise record with 19 straight completions in Week 6 against the Detroit Lions.
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Week 6: Rams vs. Lions highlights
The Los Angeles Rams take on the Detroit Lions in Week 6 of NFL action.
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October 18, 2016 at 6:27 am #55540
wvParticipantI thought this was an interesting view of Keenum, by brownsugar.
Fwiw, I thought Keenum just showed awesome accuracy on the long ball yesterday.
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Keenum is not making the quick throws in to 2 ultra tight contested windows that the modern offense requires. Against the ultra soft Lion defense he was awesome until the last throw. And, He ‘set up’ every play in the Detroit game…at an Manning-like level. But, Detroit doesn’t have a typical defense…so, so bad…and bad coverage LB etc.So, against teams like AZ and Seattle and the Vikings Case will not get those chances very often….and the throws at 2.3 seconds with tight windows are not even attempted in this offense, because that isn’t Case’s game—nor is it our WRs strengths (Britt is ok at this as compared to Jordy Nelson, for ex) ; but tight windows are Goff’s specialty—and that is a red zone expertise. Case can’t do that, and so he has to wait for guys to get open or be open 5 yards off the line of scrimmage—which sometimes fails, too (see Buffalo int). Case is a great college QB…or a great 1970s offense QB. But, in our era, with these fast defenses, Case will get old fast in the coming weeks.
Fran Tarkenton had the same problem his last 2 years (1978-79) that Case has . Tarkenton threw a lot of interceptions (25+ ints) because his arm couldn’t get in to any tight windows—he had a noodle arm at age 39 with 185 lbs (estimates). Tarkenton actually ran the first spread offense in the NFL—guys were wide open a lot because no one saw that kind of offense before. This is kinda like Case in the Detroit game…..guys running with 2 steps on the defender, and this is very rare in the NFL. DOn’t expect that type of game the rest of the year from Case…..or Britt/Kendricks. That is why SF beat us—they knew what to avoid, and Case didn’t have confidence (“seeing ghosts”winking smiley.
My goal is to be objective, not homerish.
Our offense won’will get better. Tavon still will improve and so will Gurley. And, IF Higbee ever starts doing something then Kendricks will really be open a lot. Britt however will be stopped….and though he is a physical freak, technique can stop that pretty easily. Quick is getting better, but come on, all those patterns in the Detroit game were great run after catch situations (yac), not great patterns….Quick might become good, but he has a long way to go. Britt has 3 patterns he runs very well, the 9, the seam-corner and the quick slant….he isn’t a Torry Holt pattern runner….and a good corner can take out those pretty easily (Janoris couln’t handle the 9 very well). Speaking of Janoris: wow, we need this game, and we need to beat him on those 9s!!!! Fisher I am sure has a special plan to confuse Janoris on assignments to get Britt 1 step past him…
On the other hand, I am excited for Britt to get to 1,000 yards! That would be the my biggest surprise of the year….he was this awesome in 2011 before his knee injury. His physical skill is not surprising.
October 18, 2016 at 6:49 am #55543
bnwBlockedThat is interesting.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
October 18, 2016 at 7:15 am #55544wvParticipantThat is interesting.
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Yeah Keenum doesnt have the quick release coupled with the big-arm to throw darts into tight windows consistently.And no, he’s not a franchise starting NFL QB.
But I think its worth remembering he’s still really inexperienced. I mean how many actual NFL games has he played? And how many in this system? He’s still learning and getting comfortable and getting the timing down. You can see him growing from week to week.
And man, IF HE HAS TIME, he can toss a beautiful rainbow. And he’s tough, and competitive.Jeff Garcia-ish.
Goff Time will come. And then we’ll see the future. But for now, Keenum is what we got.
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vOctober 18, 2016 at 5:48 pm #55557znModeratorI think its worth remembering he’s still really inexperienced. I mean how many actual NFL games has he played? And how many in this system?
I would say yes and no on that.
He was signed as a UDFA in 2012. He started some games in 2013 (his first btw was against the Rams, he came in for Schaub). Interestingly he had a nice long ball even then.
Since that year he started 2 for the Texans in 2014, 5 for the Rams in 2015, and then obviously 6 more.
Systems? He was in Kubiak’s system in 2013 (WCO). He was in Schott’s system in 2014 and then in O’Brien’s back in Houston (Erhard-Perkins). He was then in the Cigz variation of the Schott system in 2015, and now in the Boras variation of the Cigz/Schott offense in 2016.
So he has done the full Bradford Tour.
I would say btw that there is a good chance that the changes Boras put in were enough that everyone was learning, in effect, a new system in 2016. There are all sorts of signs of that, including things players and coaches said. That’s not Canon yet but I think it’s true.
But here’s another thing about Keenum.
In the last several years, quite a few qbs who played in a college Air Raid spread offense have been drafted or signed in the NFL, and so far,… Keenum is the ONLY one who has successfully adapted to the pros.
I would also say that Keenum’s improvement can put to the rest this idea some have that the Rams can’t coach qbs. Keenum’s improvement is obvious and he did not coach himself.
I like brownsugar’s post but he’s a bit too categorical for me in parts. There is more to Keenum than he is seeing. Part of that is because people who look only at measurables really don’t get a good grasp on CK. CK has a knack for maximizing his game through near fanatical film study and just working on it. Yeah all qbs work on stuff but CK is just the type who if you CAN improve something, he WILL. So we know he can’t throw quick line drive medium lasers. BUT think about his dynamic with Tavon. It was a mess and they actually FIXED it.
He also has some improv to his game and some quick thinking and some real-deal field smarts.
This idea that a qb HAS TO throw 11-20 yard darts to be part of a modern offense is just over the top IMO.
What I don’t like about CK is that he’s 50/50 in clutch situations. He’s as likely to come through in that situation (Tampa and Arizona were come from behind wins) as he is to fuck up (Buffalo and Detroit).
All said and done I think the least you can say about CK is that he is probably the best back-up caliber qb the Rams have had. I can’t think of a better one. I of course am not counting starting-caliber qbs who just happened to be #2 on the depth chart (Warner, Bulger, Ferragamo, and for that matter Goff). But a back-up pedigree qb.
If the Rams don’t keep him watch–he will end up on a winning team, including places like Denver or New England.
Not all fans appreciate Keenum, apparently, but you can bet NFL coaches do.
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