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  • #108239
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Why isn’t Roger Stone in jail right now?

    I saw that sentencing won’t be until February (I think), and he is out until then.

    Isn’t it typical for convicts to go straight to prison? What conditions allow for some prisoners to wait for sentencing?

    #108252
    Avatar photowv
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    Well, I only have experience with how Judges treat poor people. 🙂

    And poor people usually dont get to remain free pending sentencing.

    But it does happen sometimes. Totally up to the Judges discretion. Judges often weigh lots of factors. Same factors they look at to set bail in the first place. Likelihood of flight, likelihood of violence, previous record, roots in the community, etc, etc.

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    #108261
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    I was surprised too by that. Especially since one of the counts was witness intimidation. Like Manafort.

    . . .

    WV, you don’t toot your own horn in these forums, but if I remember correctly, you lawyer for the poor on a regular basis, right? That means, essentially, you’ve sacrificed your own chance at being very, very comfortable, if not full-on rich, in order to help others in need.

    That’s truly admirable. You walk the walk. Major kudos, WV.

    #108268
    Avatar photowv
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    That’s truly admirable. You walk the walk. Major kudos, WV.

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    Thanks BT, but there’s no honor in it, trust me. I think I was always a bit of an oddball. Never-fit-in. Outsider. Alienated. Nerdy. You know the type.
    I could never have worked in respectable corporate situation. I dont think it was a ‘choice.’ I just kinda organically ended up where i fit in, with the riff-raff.

    If I’d had more ambition, i coulda been the Joker.

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    #108277
    Avatar photoZooey
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    That’s truly admirable. You walk the walk. Major kudos, WV.

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    Thanks BT, but there’s no honor in it, trust me. I think I was always a bit of an oddball. Never-fit-in. Outsider. Alienated. Nerdy. You know the type.
    I could never have worked in respectable corporate situation. I dont think it was a ‘choice.’ I just kinda organically ended up where i fit in, with the riff-raff.

    If I’d had more ambition, i coulda been the Joker.

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    How’s wv_ewe, btw? She’s not regretting her decision to leave us all behind, it appears. Too bad. She was a good egg.

    #108278
    Avatar photowv
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    That’s truly admirable. You walk the walk. Major kudos, WV.

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    Thanks BT, but there’s no honor in it, trust me. I think I was always a bit of an oddball. Never-fit-in. Outsider. Alienated. Nerdy. You know the type.
    I could never have worked in respectable corporate situation. I dont think it was a ‘choice.’ I just kinda organically ended up where i fit in, with the riff-raff.

    If I’d had more ambition, i coulda been the Joker.

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    How’s wv_ewe, btw? She’s not regretting her decision to leave us all behind, it appears. Too bad. She was a good egg.

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    She’s good, Zooey. Lives in Cincy, still. She’s moved further to the left over the years though, she’d never admit it. Not quite a ‘leftist’ but in the grey-zone tween liberal and leftist.

    Her thing is butterflies, now. Saving the Monarchs.

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    #108282
    Avatar photoZooey
    Moderator

    Saving butterflies is good. That’s good.

    Saving humans is also good.

    #108327
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    That’s truly admirable. You walk the walk. Major kudos, WV.

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    Thanks BT, but there’s no honor in it, trust me. I think I was always a bit of an oddball. Never-fit-in. Outsider. Alienated. Nerdy. You know the type.
    I could never have worked in respectable corporate situation. I dont think it was a ‘choice.’ I just kinda organically ended up where i fit in, with the riff-raff.

    If I’d had more ambition, i coulda been the Joker.

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    :>)

    The Joker!!

    I think we share a lot of that. I never thought I fit in, either. Well, at times, I would find a “tribe” of sorts, and that would muffle that feeling a bit. High School and University, especially. But my “difference” was mainly due to being an artist, a writer, focused on those things, rather than making money, obtaining status, living in the “right” neighborhood, etc. I didn’t care about those things back then, and still don’t, and a lot of people in the DC area did, including young, single women.

    Ironically, I became somewhat alienated from my tribes in the Art and English departments too, over time. They were a world apart, and I became a world apart from that world apart, with a few individual exceptions, luckily.

    I went back to school three times, and the basic pattern remained fairly constant. Those tribes shrunk down to just a few truly simpatico people.

    But, looking back, I think I would have done many things differently, and I have my regrets, which is another form of alienation for me. Most people I talk with about “the past” say they have none. I can’t even imagine feeling that way about one’s life-history.

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