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March 10, 2015 at 5:48 pm #19829wvParticipant
Saw this post at the Herd:
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$18.5 mill for 4 years – Nick Wagoner.
============March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm #19833WinnbradParticipantYep, it’s official.
March 10, 2015 at 5:54 pm #19834wvParticipantLance Kendricks agrees with Rams
Updated: March 10, 2015, 5:44 PM ET
ESPN.com news services[espn.go.com]
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12457030/lance-kendricks-agrees-4-year-185m-deal-st-louis-rams?ex_cid=espnapi_publicThe St. Louis Rams have agreed to terms with TE Lance Kendricks on a four-year deal worth $18.5 million, sources told ESPN’s Nick Wagoner and Adam Caplan.
The Rams used a second-round pick on Kendricks in the 2011 NFL draft. In the time since, he’s been something of a “Swiss Army Knife,” playing all over the formation and even lining up at fullback at times.
In 2014, the 27-year-old Kendricks had 27 catches for 259 yards with five touchdowns.
For his four-year career, Kendricks has 129 receptions for 1,388 yards and 13 scores.
March 10, 2015 at 6:08 pm #19839rflParticipantExcellent!
By virtue of the absurd ...
March 10, 2015 at 6:10 pm #19841AgamemnonParticipantMarch 10, 2015 at 6:11 pm #19842canadaramParticipantI’m very pleased with his news. Jack-of-all-trades type of TE.
March 10, 2015 at 6:37 pm #19854DakParticipantThat’s good news. He’s a quality player who can do a lot. You’re just not going to replace him this offseason.
March 11, 2015 at 1:14 am #19938AgamemnonParticipanthttp://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php
Rams re-sign TE Lance Kendricks (4 years, $18.5 million): D Grade
Uhh… did the Rams look at the wrong stats when drawing up this deal for Lance Kendricks? Or did Kendricks drug the general manager and convince him to offer nearly $5 million per season? I suppose either scenario could have occurred.
If not, I don’t get it. Lance Kendricks is a mediocre player at best, and it’s not like he’s even the starting tight end. He can block well, but 4-year, $18.5 million contracts shouldn’t be handed out to blocking tight ends. The Rams won the Sam Bradford-Nick Foles trade by a long shot – the analysis is below – but they screwed up with this deal.
I think the Rams overpaid for Kendicks, but he has a better chance of performing to his contract than Cook does. imo
March 11, 2015 at 8:41 am #19950wvParticipanthttp://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php
Rams re-sign TE Lance Kendricks (4 years, $18.5 million): D Grade
Uhhā¦ did the Rams look at the wrong stats when drawing up this deal for Lance Kendricks? Or did Kendricks drug the general manager and convince him to offer nearly $5 million per season? I suppose either scenario could have occurred.
If not, I donāt get it. Lance Kendricks is a mediocre player at best, and itās not like heās even the starting tight end. He can block well, but 4-year, $18.5 million contracts shouldnāt be handed out to blocking tight ends. The Rams won the Sam Bradford-Nick Foles trade by a long shot ā the analysis is below ā but they screwed up with this deal.
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>I think the Rams overpaid for Kendicks, but he has a better chance of performing to his contract than Cook does. imo</span>
Yeah if you just go by the stats, it was a bad deal.
But apparently the Rams think he is
more than a “mediocre” player.w
vMarch 11, 2015 at 9:18 am #19964AgamemnonParticipantYeah if you just go by the stats, it was a bad deal.
But apparently the Rams think he is
more than a āmediocreā player.w
vYeah, the Rams have some TEs on the roster, so keeping Kendricks wasn’t about just needing a TE.
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But, it is some of the reason why I wouldn’t have paid him that much money.March 11, 2015 at 9:34 am #19971znModeratorRams re-sign TE Lance Kendricks (4 years, $18.5 million): D Grade
http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php
Uhhā¦ did the Rams look at the wrong stats when drawing up this deal for Lance Kendricks? Or did Kendricks drug the general manager and convince him to offer nearly $5 million per season? I suppose either scenario could have occurred.
I think the Rams overpaid for Kendicks, but he has a better chance of performing to his contract than Cook does. imo
I think it is as simple as this.
Kendricks is not only a good blocker, he’s a good receiver.
But last year they kept him in to pass block. This had to do with obvious issues up and down the OL. That means they did not use him as a receiver as much last year.
So “stats” tell you nothing about Kendricks and his value.
I think the Rams value him, I think Boras values him and pushed for him, and I think he will be worth the money. I don’t think any outsider would know or appreciate any of this.
March 11, 2015 at 9:37 am #19972WinnbradParticipantApparently the Pats wanted Kendricks. They have a pretty good track record with FA signings. The Rams may have had to overpay, a little, to keep him, because of the Pats, but I think it’s a good signing. I believe he also plays on STs.
March 11, 2015 at 9:39 am #19973AgamemnonParticipantI think it is as simple as this.
Kendricks is not only a good blocker, heās a good receiver.
But last year they kept him in to pass block. This had to do with obvious issues up and down the OL. That means they did not use him as a receiver as much last year.
So āstatsā tell you nothing about Kendricks and his value.
I think the Rams value him, I think Boras values him and pushed for him, and I think he will be worth the money. I donāt think any outsider would know or appreciate any of this.
So, you want to pay a TE like he is Scott Wells??????????? š
March 11, 2015 at 9:49 am #19974znModeratorSo, you want to pay a TE like he is Scott Wells??????????? š
When I look at contracts I compare them to the avg. for the position for the category of player it is–ie in this case, TEs in their second contract.
By that standard, Kendricks is not overpaid.
He is being paid more or less what blocking TEs are getting. Expensive TEs are are getting 7, 8, 10 M a year.
http://overthecap.com/position/tight-end
2nd numbers column here is avg. per year:
March 11, 2015 at 9:55 am #19975AgamemnonParticipantI think all those guys are a notch above Kendicks.
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March 11, 2015 at 10:07 am #19982znModeratorI think all those guys are a notch above Kendicks.
I don’t. I mean except Davis. I think Kendricks was under-utilized last year because they need him as a pass blocker.
That’s my theory anyway.
March 11, 2015 at 10:10 am #19985InvaderRamModeratori’m not disappointed although i always wonder if the idea of kendricks was always more appealing than the actual production.
we’ll see. maybe the shackles will be taken off this year.
March 11, 2015 at 10:13 am #19986znModeratoriām not disappointed although i always wonder if the idea of kendricks was always more appealing than the actual production.
weāll see. maybe the shackles will be taken off this year.
Depends on what you think he is.
To me he is a highly valuable utility TE who can pass block, run block, line up all over the formation to block both ways, AND can catch passes.
If you’re just looking for stats production, IMO, you;re looking for the wrong things.
I think he can produce more than he has as a receiver…we’ve seen it…but he is a valuable utility guy first and foremost.
Heck for a couple of years Seattle paid Zach Miller 11 M a year just to block.
IMO they like all the things Kendricks does. IMO they think he does it all at a high level. A lot of what he does is invisible in the stats dept.
March 11, 2015 at 10:18 am #19988InvaderRamModeratormaybe. but they also signed wells and long. so they could also be wrong about this. like i said. i’m not disappointed. but i’m not overly thrilled either. it was a need and it was filled.
March 11, 2015 at 2:43 pm #20061DakParticipantI’m more than OK with the Kendricks contract, as I mentioned, because of his versatility. You’re not going to replace him. You’re worse without him this season. If the Patriots wanted him, that gives you an idea of what a good franchise thinks of his value. Maybe the Rams paid more than the competition, but that’s not overpaying … that’s meeting demand on the open market.
This is different than past Rams’ free agent signings, because they’re re-signing a known quantity who has been fairly durable.
March 11, 2015 at 7:26 pm #20136znModeratorRams officially re-sign TE Lance Kendricks
By Nick Wagoner | ESPN.com
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams officially announced they have re-signed tight end Lance Kendricks on Wednesday night, a day after they had come to terms on the framework of a deal.
The Rams’ announcement did not disclose the terms of the deal but the original numbers that ESPN NFL Insider Adam Caplan and I reported Tuesday were four years and $18.5 million. It remains to be seen if those are the actual numbers and, of course, the guaranteed money is still unknown. Once we get those numbers, we’ll be sure to break them down right here.
In the meantime, the Rams are retaining a player that probably doesn’t draw a lot of attention but is considered vital to what the Rams do offensively and who they want to be. Tight ends coach Rob Boras has long been a major Kendricks’ supporter and his versatility undoubtedly was a reason the Rams wanted to keep him.
The Rams used a second-round pick on Kendricks in the 2011 NFL draft. In the time since, he has been something of a “Swiss Army knife,” playing all over the formation and even lining up at fullback at times. In 2014, the 27-year-old Kendricks had 27 catches for 259 yards with five touchdowns.
For his four-year career, Kendricks has 129 receptions for 1,388 yards and 13 scores.
March 12, 2015 at 12:11 am #20148znModeratorfrom off the net
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I’ve heard some refer to Kendricks as a “backup.” He started 15 games & played 60.6% of snaps. Jared Cook 67.0%, Cory Harkey 33.3%. And in some games he played more snaps than any TE, 75% against Washington.
His blocking is such an asset. He was matched up against Von Miller after he gave Barks fits and shut him down. He also an effective receiver, not a threat like Cook, but a solid option. He led the team in TD receptions, 5, not a milestone, but still no one else could top it. (note: 13% of his targets resulted in TDs, higher than any other Ram. With Cook it was 3.5%.)
I think his salary is a fair deal for us, and I expect him to continue to get better.
March 13, 2015 at 3:08 pm #20378znModeratorJim Thomas @jthom1 Ā·
Just got off conference call w/Lance Kendricks. Said he turned down more money from Atlanta to re-sign w/Rams.
March 13, 2015 at 8:30 pm #20430AgamemnonParticipantMarch 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm #20433sdramParticipantI’m happy Kendrick’s resigned – he’s a solid player.
March 14, 2015 at 1:31 am #20466znModeratorHoward Balzer ā@HBalzer721
Lance Kendricks deal $10M guaranteed: $1.5M 2015 salary, $4M RB paid Saturday, $3.25M 2016 salary injury only, fully guar. 5th day LY ’16…
Also, $1.25M RB 2016, inj only, ful guaranteed on 1st day of 2015 training camp. Salaries: $1.5, 3.25, 3.75, 3.75. RB: $4M, 1.25, 500, 500.
Most important, Kendricks counts $5,5M against cap this year. Cap numbers each year: $5.5M, $4.5M, $4.25M, $4.25M
March 16, 2015 at 9:33 pm #20760znModeratorKendricks gladly takes hometown discount to stay with Rams
By Luke Thompson
FOX Sports Midwest
ST. LOUIS — A strong sense of belonging and respect for the coaching staff kept one of the best tight ends on the free-agent market in St. Louis.
Lance Kendricks says he turned down more money from the Atlanta Falcons when he agreed to a deal with the Rams reportedly worth four years and $18.5 million, including $10 million guaranteed. A solid first four years in the league earned him that kind of security, and Kendricks cared more about staying in the right system than maximizing his income.
“I really like my coaches and teammates,” says Kendricks, who led the Rams with five receiving touchdowns in 2014. “I didn’t want to jump into anything new and for me, I was drafted here, so being able to help build this team from the ground up was always a big thing for me.”
He caught 28 passes for 352 yards as a rookie and made a significant jump the next season, setting career-highs with 42 catches and 519 yards. The Rams also improved by five wins in their first season under coach Jeff Fisher and tight ends coach Rob Boras.
Kendricks says those two, particularly Boras, played a big factor in his decision to stay in St. Louis for another four years, even though he’s no longer the top receiving option at tight end. The addition of Jared Cook in 2013 gave the Rams a better, more athletic, downfield threat and cut Kendricks’ yardage numbers in half, though he remained a threat on short routes and in the red zone.
The 6-foot-3, 250-pound former Wisconsin standout knows he can improve considerably on his route running and ability to catch the football. But he still plays a big role in the run-heavy offense and hopes to do even more next season.
“Coach Boras and (offensive coordinator Frank) Cignetti, they spoke to me (last Thursday) about just implementing more options for me in the passing game,” Kendricks says. “So I’m pretty happy about that and I’m excited to see what they have in the works.”
He signed before learning about the trade for Nick Foles. But even though Kendricks admitted to being a bit surprised to see Sam Bradford leave, he says he didn’t panic. Solid numbers in Philadelphia show Foles is capable of getting the ball out to his receivers, and he’ll have several good ones in St. Louis now that the Rams have brought back both Kendricks and Kenny Britt.
A strong bond with the team and the city made the decision a relatively easy one for Kendricks, who says those who have been around the franchise long enough “play with a chip on their shoulders.” Of course, he’s aware of the rumored move to Los Angeles after this season, but that didn’t really concern Kendricks in negotiations.
In the end, no matter how much money he might get, he just couldn’t see himself playing anywhere else
March 16, 2015 at 9:33 pm #20761znModeratorLance Kendricks happy to stay in St. Louis
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17106/lance-kendricks-happy-to-stay-in-st-louis
EARTH CITY, Mo. — As tight end Lance Kendricks’ first foray into free agency drew close to an official beginning, all signs pointed to him being headed for greener pastures with the Atlanta Falcons.
During the three-day negotiating window preceding free agency, the Falcons had pushed hard for Kendricks and made a lucrative offer exceeding the others that he’d received. The St. Louis Rams, meanwhile, wanted to keep Kendricks but had a limit on how far they’d go to do so.
Throughout the process, Kendricks stayed in touch with tight ends coach Rob Boras, who was Kendricks’ biggest advocate and vice-versa. As Kendricks tells it, he and Boras would exchange messages with Boras imploring Kendricks to stay and Kendricks telling Boras that nothing was certain.
“He gave me a few calls,” Kendricks said. “He was getting nervous, I heard he was pacing up and down the hallways. I was shooting him some texts but I didnāt want to give him a heart attack.”
Kendricks and Boras can laugh about it now that the 27-year old tight end/fullback/jack-of-all trades has re-signed with the Rams on a four-year contract worth $18.5 million. But it’s quite clear that things were touch and go for a bit on whether the Rams would get Kendricks back.
In fact, Kendricks confirmed Friday that the offer he received from the tight end needy Falcons exceeded the one he eventually took to stay in St. Louis. When the Rams upped the ante to the offer he signed, Kendricks decided to put value on his comfort level over the bottom line.
“Itās not always about the money,” Kendricks said. “I think being able to come to work and be happy and work with some of the people that love being around, thatās a little more important, just the common bond we all have as players and players from St. Louis. We all kind of walk with a chip on our shoulders. For me, I just love it here so I have to make sure I was able to stay.”
That process wasn’t so simple as finding an offer that was in the same ballpark as the one he received from Atlanta, either. Near the end of the season, Kendricks had made it clear that he wanted an expanded role in the passing game wherever he landed in free agency.
The 2011 second-round pick had entered the league with a reputation as a pass-catcher but evolved into more of a Swiss Army knife for the offense in his time with the Rams. In 2014, Kendricks had a career-low 27 catches with 259 yards but did lead the team with five touchdown grabs. In four seasons with the Rams, Kendricks has 129 receptions for 1,388 yards and 13 scores.
“Thatās something that was emphasized,” Kendricks said. “With the quarterback changes we had going on last year it was really hard for anyone to get in a rhythm so Coach Boras and [offensive coordinator Frank] Cignetti spoke to me yesterday about implementing more options in the passing game for me so Iām pretty happy about that and Iām excited to see what they have in the works.”
Those numbers might seem awfully low for a player now scheduled to bank in excess of $4.5 million a year but Kendricks’ value to the Rams offense goes beyond the numbers. Kendricks has lined up in-line, in the slot, in the backfield and just about anywhere else you can imagine. And though Jared Cook is technically listed as the starter, the Rams frequently use multiple tight end sets.
Kendricks played 569 snaps in 2014, trailing Cook’s 654 but ahead of Cory Harkey’s 318. Kendricks is usually on the field with Cook and the Rams sometimes even have all three in the game at the same time.
Now that Kendricks is locked in with the Rams, they’ll probably look to find ways to get him more involved. After major drop issues as a rookie, Kendricks has become a more reliable pass-catcher and given the contract, it would appear the Rams have bigger plans for him moving forward.
And Boras can finally relax in the knowledge that Kendricks remained a Ram despite great interest elsewhere.
“He definitely played a huge role in me staying,” Kendricks said. “It would be hard for me to find a better tight end coach than Rob. That was important to me. Rob makes us all better players. Without him, it would definitely be more of a challenge. He makes it easier for us. He puts a lot on our shoulders and he expects a lot out of us. So I was happy to be able to stay.”
March 16, 2015 at 10:23 pm #20765InvaderRamModeratori do expect kendricks to get more involved in the receiving game especially if they can fix that oline. and it sounds like cignetti has some new ideas on how to get more out of him. at least i hope he does.
March 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm #20934znModeratori do expect kendricks to get more involved in the receiving game especially if they can fix that oline.
Yeah I agree with that. In fact…looks like it.
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