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    Keenum remains Rams’ starter, at least for now

    By RICH HAMMOND

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/remains-709129-keenum-starter.html

    One week into the NFL’s free-agent signing period, and less than a month before the start of offseason workouts, nothing has changed for the Rams at quarterback. They have a starter, so to speak.

    That title is held, tentatively, by Case Keenum, the former practice-squad quarterback who closed last season with a 3-1 record. Nick Foles and Sean Mannion also remain on the roster and, despite rumors, the Rams have not made any signings or trades to complement that group.

    Some confusion emerged in this area Monday after General Manager Les Snead did an interview with NFL Network from the league’s owners’ meetings in Florida.

    Snead was quoted, incorrectly, as having said Keenum would be the Rams’ quarterback at the start of the season. Several websites and social-media accounts reported the misquote as part of news stories.

    Snead’s actual quote — ”Case is going to come in and be our starting quarterback, opening day when we do OTAs’’ — is wholly consistent with what Snead and Coach Jeff Fisher have said since the end of last season, that Keenum would enter the offseason as the starter but that competition would exist.

    Organized team activities — commonly known as OTAs — take place from April through June and give players a chance to work out together before the start of training camp in July.

    At least three times, in public settings — at the end of the season, at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine and on Monday — Snead or Fisher have said that the Rams are likely to add to their quarterback group and that competition will exist in training camp.

    #40888
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    an earlier version[/sixe]

    Les Snead says Rams have to look at every avenue for a QB

    Darin Gantt on January 29, 2016

    Les Snead says Rams have to look at every avenue for a QB

    Rams General Manager Les Snead has already declared an open competition between quarterbacks Case Keenum and Nick Foles for next season.

    And while that might underwhelm fans in Los Angeles who haven’t seen a pro quarterback in 21 years, Snead’s also doing his best to keep fans from thinking a first-round savior is on the way.

    Snead told Gary Klein of the Los Angeles Times that he can’t rule out using a high pick on a quarterback, but was quick to point out some mid-rounders who have had success lately.

    “You definitely have to prepare that you might do it,” Snead said. “Sometimes with QBs we’ve seen some very successful ones go in the second round, and the third round seems to be hot of late. I’m thinking of Russell Wilson. I’m thinking of Kirk Cousins [fourth round].

    “So the thing about the draft is, because it’s become a nice entertainment segment, . . . there’s so much attention on the first round, especially at the QB position, that sometimes the third-round QB, it’s ‘Oh, he’s a third-round QB.’ But the long story short on all of that is we’ll definitely scout QBs, and we’ll definitely look at the trade market and free-agent market.”

    As to the in-house options, Snead said that restricted free agent Keenum wasn’t leaving town: “We’re not going to let him go somewhere else.”

    He also scuttled the notion that Foles was too expensive to hang onto as a backup, saying: “The answer from a salary standpoint is, yes, he’s easily keepable.”

    But it’s clear that the Rams need an answer there, and they can’t rule out any possible avenue for finding one.

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    Agamemnon

    #40893
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    Well its only a ‘controversy’ to people
    who dont like Fisher/Snead or to people
    who haven’t really understood the situation.

    I mean, its just beyond-obvious what the situation
    is: Keenum is the QB, until someone beats him out.
    And someone may or may not beat him out. And we
    dont even know who all the competitors will be yet.

    Its not that complicated.

    In a better and more just world
    the Rams would have drafted Warren Beatty
    instead of wasting a pick on Aaron Donald.
    Warren Beatty would bring glamor to the position.
    Which is what they need to Win,
    in LA. I think Bert Jones and Joe Namath
    proved that.

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    #40899
    Avatar photoZooey
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    How is it controversial? Are there people out there arguing that it should be Foles?

    Or do they just believe that if Keenum is the official starter, that means that the Rams are not going to look for another QB as long as Keenum is alive?

    #40900
    bnw
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    Foles is deservedly off the radar. Everyone has seen enough of him. I think it remains Keenum because theres a dearth of QBs available. Keen is in the right place at the right time.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #40904
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    Foles is deservedly off the radar. Everyone has seen enough of him. I think it remains Keenum because theres a dearth of QBs available. Keen is in the right place at the right time.

    Yes. And if they have to go with Keen-um,
    they can still beat the teams that they can Run on.

    They’ll have to win with Gurley, defense, and the
    occasional big play from Keen-um, and Hekker
    on fourth down.

    It’ll be ugly and downright non-glamorous.
    It wont be Showtime, it’ll be slow-time.

    It wont be George Clooney ; it’ll be
    Bill Murray.

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    #40908
    bnw
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    Chew up the clock offense to keep the other team from the ball. On defense get the score and TOs. Even ugly wins can be beautiful if the plan is carried out to perfection.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #40922
    TSRF
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    Well, VW,

    I’d rather watch a Bill Murray movie any day of the week over a George Clooney one; and that includes Tuesday’s, when I usually don’t watch movies at all.

    Have you even watched Caddyshack or Stripes? To what, fat Batman?

    I think I know what you’re trying to say, but come on man, don’t pick on the misunderstood giants of comedy while you’re doing it.

    #40924
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    Well, VW,

    I’d rather watch a Bill Murray movie any day of the week over a George Clooney one; and that includes Tuesday’s, when I usually don’t watch movies at all.

    Have you even watched Caddyshack or Stripes? To what, fat Batman?

    I think I know what you’re trying to say, but come on man, don’t pick on the misunderstood giants of comedy while you’re doing it.

    Seems to me, Clooney’s shit-eating-grin
    is more nuanced that Murrays.

    On that basis, i dismiss your point of view,
    and declare victory, and close this thread.

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    v

    #40932
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    Or do they just believe that if Keenum is the official starter, that means that the Rams are not going to look for another QB as long as Keenum is alive?

    Yes that’s it right there. It’s not being helped by the fact that some venues misreported what Snead said a couple of days ago. He said CK would be the starter going into OTAs, and it got reported as “going into the season.”

    #40933
    NERam
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    Or do they just believe that if Keenum is the official starter, that means that the Rams are not going to look for another QB as long as Keenum is alive?

    Yes that’s it right there. It’s not being helped by the fact that some venues misreported what Snead said a couple of days ago. He said CK would be the starter going into OTAs, and it got reported as “going into the season.”

    Not trying to create controversy in a potentially controversial thread, but I think if you wanted to respond to Zooey, you should have done it before WV’s self proclaimed victory and ensuing thread closure. By adding to it, can you now be penalized 15 yards for piling on?

    #40935
    bnw
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    Or do they just believe that if Keenum is the official starter, that means that the Rams are not going to look for another QB as long as Keenum is alive?

    Yes that’s it right there. It’s not being helped by the fact that some venues misreported what Snead said a couple of days ago. He said CK would be the starter going into OTAs, and it got reported as “going into the season.”

    Not trying to create controversy in a potentially controversial thread, but I think if you wanted to respond to Zooey, you should have done it before WV’s self proclaimed victory and ensuing thread closure. By adding to it, can you now be penalized 15 yards for piling on?

    Loss of down too.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #40936
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    By adding to it, can you now be penalized 15 yards for piling on

    My penalty was to find a relevant Wagoner article and post it in this thread. That’s not that easy because it’s not like Wagoner writes something on EVERY Rams topic that comes up.

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    Rams’ quarterback situation in holding pattern

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/27818/rams-message-on-quarterbacks-hasnt-changed

    BOCA RATON, Fla. — Let’s take a moment to clear up some confusion coming out of the owners meetings on Monday.

    Before I even landed here Monday afternoon, Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead appeared on NFL Network to talk about all things Rams. At the top of that list: the ongoing game of “will they or won’t they?” when it comes to the starting quarterback position and Case Keenum.

    Snead didn’t offer much new in that regard, echoing the comments coach Jeff Fisher made on Jan. 4 in which he said that Keenum is the team’s starter going into the offseason program but that there will be competition in place.

    But, as social media often does, Snead’s answer was lacking some key words. Where it’s true that Snead said “Keenum will be the starter on opening day,” he actually said Keenum would be the starter on the opening day of organized team activities.

    The Rams are set to begin the offseason program on April 18 and are tentatively scheduled to begin OTAs at the end of May. That’s a long way from the start of the regular season.

    I ran into Snead early Monday evening and asked him to clarify something that he probably shouldn’t have had to.

    “What I said this morning was when we come back for OTAs, Case Keenum will take the reps with the No. 1 offense,” Snead said. “He earned that. But you know what, there’s OTAs, there’s a preseason and there will be a lot of competition from point A to point Z until we start the season and go from there. But when we come for OTAs, Case will line up with the ones, and I think I was pretty strict in saying why he would do that because he came in and he helped us win three of four and was close to going 4-0.”

    So let’s reset this once more, with feeling: The Rams know they need help at quarterback. They also don’t seem to believe that the signal callers on the free-agent market are obvious upgrades over what they have. They also know that draft isn’t likely to yield an instant starter, especially since they’re picking at No. 15 overall.

    That doesn’t mean the Rams won’t bring in another quarterback. In fact, there’s a good chance they’ll find one in the draft. So yes, it’s fair to say that Keenum is a good bet to be the starting quarterback not only when the Rams open OTAs but also when they open the season.

    But for now, they’re keeping their options open.

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    #40939
    NERam
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    By adding to it, can you now be penalized 15 yards for piling on

    My penalty was to find a relevant Wagoner article and post it in this thread. That’s not that easy because it’s not like Wagoner writes something on EVERY Rams topic that comes up.

    Ed Hochuli – “After review, there was no piling on. The poster formerly known as WV Ram stepped out of bounds by usurping Administrative rights and closing a thread down prematurely. Rams keep the ball, first down.”

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