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October 7, 2025 at 10:57 am #158513
znModeratorSean McVay responds to Pat McAfee’s theory about Joshua Karty’s struggles
McVay admits McAfee has a fair point about Karty’s kickoffs impacting his FG and PAT attemptsCameron DaSilva
Los Angeles Rams kicker Joshua Karty has endured some struggles this season, though they’re not entirely his fault. He’s just 9-for-12 on field goal attempts and has had an NFL-high two field goals blocked. Karty has also had two extra-point attempts blocked, including one that would’ve given the Rams the lead against the 49ers on Thursday night.
He can’t control the protection up front, but the trajectory of his kicks certainly play a role in whether they get blocked or not. Pat McAfee, who’s a former Pro Bowl punter and all-around special teams star, shared an interesting theory last week that perhaps Karty’s low-driving squib kicks on kickoffs are having an impact on his field goal attempts.
McAfee said he’s “really worried about Karty” and believes he’s an “incredible talent,” but he thinks the squib kicks are hurting him as a place kicker.
“Karty hitting those fat balls, those knuckleballs on kickoffs has been very good for the Rams,” McAfee said. “It’s gotten a lot of attention. It’s gotten a lot of positive hype for this new kickoff…I don’t like kickers kicking fat balls all of the time… He’s seemingly hitting fat balls and fat balls go left… I think him hitting a fat ball every single time he hits a kickoff isn’t necessarily, for me, the greatest thing mentally.”
Sean McVay was asked about McAfee’s theory during the “Coach McVay Show” on Monday and he didn’t disagree. It’s even something the Rams have talked about as they attempt to get their kicking operation fixed.
“I think that’s fair,” McVay said. “He is certainly an expert in that arena, given his background. That’s something we’ve talked about, and I don’t think that’s a misguided thing. Whether there’s truth to that or not, we’re continuing to dive into that, but I don’t think that’s unfair for him to say.”
Is Karty the primary reason for his kicks being blocked? Or is it more on the protection? McVay doesn’t want to assign blame to one person, but he did note that trajectory is a factor.
“I’m not interested in identifying primary culprits, but I will say this: I’m interested in all 11 hands on deck. Snap, hold, kick. It’s timing, it’s trajectory, it’s the protection for that 1.25 seconds. So we all have to be better there,” he said.
As for whether the kicking situation will have McVay’s full attention: “It already does and it absolutely will.”
There have been no signs that the Rams are considering making a change at kicker, or that they’re thinking about altering their kickoff strategy. But with the team leaving points on the board by getting four kicks blocked in the last four games, they need to figure something out. And fast.
They’re taking a very intentional approach to getting it sorted out, focusing more on it than usual.
“I think you lean in. I don’t want to get too granular with you guys for the different reasons that it hasn’t gone down, but there’s going to be an intentional approach, all hands on deck, which that’s always been the case,” McVay said during Monday’s presser. “We’ll lean in more than we have. I just refuse to believe that this isn’t something that we can’t fix. We’re going to continue to fight, scratch and claw to be able to give the techniques, the fundamentals and get the right people in the right spots. Then ultimately understand what is going to be required for us to execute at a high clip in a phase that is supremely important. It’s cost us through the first five weeks.”
October 7, 2025 at 11:00 am #158514
znModeratorQuestion. What other teams do knuckleball kicks on kickoffs? Because the Rams lead the league in blocked kicks/extra points, yet they aren’t the only team doing knuckleball kickoffs.
Of course it could be that the knuckleball kickoffs have a unique effect on Karty.
Stay tu…[wham]
Oops sorry my closing line got blocked there.
October 10, 2025 at 3:39 pm #158553
znModeratorLos Angeles is far from alone when it comes to blocked kicks. Through the first four weeks of the season, the NFL saw 16 total blocked field goals, punts or extra points. It’s the second-highest mark through four weeks since at least 1991.
One theory has been that a new approach to kickoffs, with a knuckleball style to take advantage of the extra 5 yards of room to force a return, has led to kickers approaching field goals differently. It’s an easy line to draw to Karty, who has mastered the technique perhaps as much as anyone. And in the loss to the Eagles, he saw the highs of watching nearly every kickoff bounce off and around Philadelphia’s return men before the lows of having two kicks blocked.
But he said the new kickoff approach is not an explanation.
“That thought has not crossed my mind,” Karty said.
Nor, either, has the pressure that the field goal block units are putting on him.
“There’s nothing I should be doing to compensate for anything,” Karty said. “I should just be going out and trying to hit my ball.”
Opponents are hunting for these moments as much as ever, finding a decided advantage on the inside of the line. They aren’t allowed to push on the back of the long snapper to gain a lane, something the Denver Broncos learned painfully in a Week 2 loss to the Indianapolis Colts, when they went from victory to defeat thanks to a 15-yard penalty and a re-kick that Spencer Shrader made to win the game for Indianapolis.
To avoid the penalty and still take advantage, teams are piling their biggest and most powerful defenders around the edges of the long snapper and using the crevices around a mostly stationary player to get into position for the block. That’s what the Eagles did with two first-round defensive tackles in Davis and Jalen Carter, who traded off on blocks to beat the Rams. On the final one that Davis returned, the two teamed up to push their 650 combined pounds over Rams right tackle Rob Havenstein and through backup guard Beaux Limmer.
And perhaps therein lies some of the problem for the Rams: Their line has been hit with injuries and lineup inconsistency, and all four blocks have come from interior pressure. Havenstein has battled an ankle issue this season that led him to miss last week’s loss to the 49ers. Right guard Kevin Dotson battled cramps against the Eagles and was out for the second block.
Left guard Steve Avila has missed the past three games on offense with an ankle injury. The Rams didn’t want to risk it on turf and a short week last Thursday, but they did play him for five special teams snaps. And he was the one who gave up the pressure that led to last week’s block, this time coming from the right side.
October 13, 2025 at 6:21 pm #158651
znModeratorNate Atkins@NateAtkins_
Sean McVay will never say this, but I think passing on that field goal was under the idea that the only way the Ravens were finding the end zone with a backup QB was if they returned a blocked kick to the house.Between protection, snaps and kicks, it’s all just shaky right now
McVay said the Rams protected better for field goals yesterday but was he disappointed in the operation, from Josh Karty missing a short kick to a bad snap.”
“I’m not giving up on that group, but there’s a responsibility and accountability on everyone to do their 1/11.”
Gary Klein@LATimesklein
McVay said protection and timing in kicking game was improved: “Josh Karty is a guy that I’m ready to stick with.” -
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