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  • #24872
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    • This topic was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Avatar photoAgamemnon.

    Agamemnon

    #24873
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    I am curious about the details of his contract.

    Agamemnon

    #24874
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    http://www.profootballrumors.com/barksdale-chargers-agree/
    Joe Barksdale, Chargers Agree To Deal
    May 19th, 2015 at 12:40pm CST by Luke Adams

    The last unsigned player on PFR’s Top 50 Free Agents list has found a new home, according to Rand Getlin of Yahoo! Sports, who reports (via Twitter) that offensive tackle Joe Barksdale has agreed to terms with the Chargers. Years and dollars on Barksdale’s new deal aren’t yet known.

    When I ranked Barksdale 36th overall among available players at the start of 2015’s free agent period, I observed that, given the lack of steady, reliable offensive tackles on the market, Barksdale looked like a decent bet to land a deal similar to the $6MM-per-year pacts signed by Austin Howard and Anthony Collins in 2014.

    According to various reports, Barksdale was seeking a contract in that range, or close to it, at the start of free agency. However, many teams in need of offensive line help opted to roll the dice on more affordable alternatives, or ones with more upside, such as the Jaguars with Jermey Parnell.

    As our Dallas Robinson observed when he examined Barksdale’s free agent stock, Pro Football Focus (subscription required) ranked the former Ram just 48th out of 84 qualified tackles. However, his +5.6 run-blocking grade placed him just outside the top 10 in that category.

    Barksdale, who previously worked out for the Falcons and drew interest from the Titans and Rams, visited the Chargers this week before agreeing to terms with the team. Having re-signed King Dunlap to play left tackle and added Orlando Franklin as their probable starter at left guard, the Chargers are set on that side of the line, but have some question marks on the right side.

    Although GM Tom Telesco suggested earlier in the offseason that he envisions D.J. Fluker playing right tackle in 2015, I’d expect Barksdale to challenge for the starting role at that spot, making Fluker a candidate to move inside.

    Agamemnon

    #24877
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    I just have this suspicion that Barksdale got his feelings hurt when the Rams didn’t value him as much as he thought they should, and I just had the feeling he was never going to sign here after that happened.

    #24878
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    I just have this suspicion that Barksdale got his feelings hurt when the Rams didn’t value him as much as he thought they should, and I just had the feeling he was never going to sign here after that happened.

    Here we go, another youth movement.

    #24880
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    Agamemnon

    #24882
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    WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent. imo

    Agamemnon

    #24883
    Herzog
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    WTF??? Wonder what the Rams offer was.

    #24884
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    The Rams couldn’t beat that offer?

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24885
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    WTF??? Wonder what the Rams offer was.

    Back when I had Joe as a priority FA for the Rams to resign, I estimated: Joe Barksdale 4 yr(s) / $16,750,000
    Today I was looking at him still getting something like Kendricks or Britt got: about 4.5 million/year.
    Hard to believe that if he has signed with the Rams before the draft he wouldn’t have gotten something in that neighborhood.
    The Rams had the cap money to sign him.
    He signed the same basic contract that Reynolds signed to be a backup, except Reynolds contract is for 2 years.
    The best Barksdale can hope for is to play well enough to cash in next year. imo

    Agamemnon

    #24886
    Dak
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    Sounds to me like a combination of Barksdale overvaluing his worth and then getting sideways with the Rams for not valuing him enough. He signed a one-year “prove it” deal and thinks he can cash in next year.

    If I was him, I’d get a new agent by next year.

    #24887
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    The Rams couldn’t beat that offer?

    This is where we need JT or some of the other reporters to dig that information out. You know, exactly what is the story behind the Barksdale negotiations?

    Agamemnon

    #24888
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    Can only speculate, obviously. But I am going to guess that Barksdale’s value to the Rams dropped when Havenstein was picked. They have that guy slated to start. That means that, at best Barksdale would be a placeholder for a handful of games, and then go be quality backup. You don’t pay $4 million for a backup RT.

    I’m guessing the Rams “interest” in Barksdale post-draft was of the “come-down-to-earth” variety, and whatever they may have offered before was probably withdrawn.

    And I think I have to agree that he should find a new agent. Given the depth of OL in this draft, his value was only going to go down afterwards.

    #24890
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    He signed the same basic contract that Reynolds signed to be a backup, except Reynolds contract is for 2 years.

    I just have this suspicion that Barksdale got his feelings hurt when the Rams didn’t value him as much as he thought they should,

    I’m guessing the Rams “interest” in Barksdale post-draft was of the “come-down-to-earth” variety, and whatever they may have offered before was probably withdrawn.

    Yeah it looks to me like JB got his feelings hurt, and the Rams got less interested after the draft.

    The Rams are not real big on keeping their “ronin” pick-up types. They have let a long list of guys who played for them walk. Turner, Richardson, Hunter, Smith, Williams, Person, and now JB.

    #24891
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    With Barksdale gone, rookie Havenstein takes over at right tackle
    21m

    Nick Wagoner, ESPN Staff Writer

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18590/with-barksdale-gone-rookie-havenstein-takes-over-at-right-tackle

    SAN FRANCISCO — The writing was on the wall from the moment the writing on the St. Louis Rams’ second-round draft card read “Rob Havenstein, offensive tackle, Wisconsin.”

    But in case those clues weren’t strong enough, what was already obvious became clear on Tuesday: Havenstein is the Rams’ right tackle of the future.

    That’s because Joe Barksdale, the team’s incumbent right tackle, agreed to a contract with the San Diego Chargers after a long and arduous free-agent process. It was a journey that once started with hopes of him landing a multiyear deal in excess of $6 million per season and ended with him settling for a one-year “prove it” contract.

    From the Rams’ perspective, losing Barksdale isn’t a surprise but it does remove a reliable piece. He’d proved to be a solid if unspectacular part of the offensive line, starting 29 games over the past two seasons. If nothing else, Barksdale was the one reliable lineman the team knew it could count on lining up in his usual spot every week and not dealing with growing pains or injury issues.

    Barksdale also found himself struggling when facing some of the league’s better pass-rushers. Kansas City’s Justin Houston and Washington’s Ryan Kerrigan were among the types to give Barksdale problems in 2014. But for the most part, Barksdale was steady and reliable.

    And Barksdale could still be a Ram were it not for an apparent miscalculation by his side on his worth on the free-agent market. Rams coach Jeff Fisher acknowledged at the March owners meetings that Barksdale’s initial price was part of the reason he was still available. Fisher also maintained that the Rams still had interest in retaining Barksdale.

    That remained the company line for Fisher and general manager Les Snead, even as recently as their post-draft news conference. The reality, though, was that although the Rams probably did maintain some level of interest in keeping Barksdale, they had already moved on. For his part, Barksdale likely had too, as emotions can often play a role when a player finds himself on the market without a deal as long as he did.

    In the draft, Fisher and Snead used four draft picks on offensive linemen, including Havenstein, and they immediately went about plugging him in as the likely starter on the right side.

    “With big Rob, he is ready to play,” Snead said. “He’s a right tackle, started a ton of games – never missed any. They run the ball well up there. All of that translated to the Senior Bowl. He’s just a guy that knows his strengths and weaknesses and how to use them.”

    Barring a major surprise, Havenstein will get the chance to use them sooner than later. With Barksdale on his way to San Diego, it’s Havenstein’s time to take over at right tackle. The future is now.

    Agamemnon

    #24895
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    He didn’t get the money that he wanted, but playing in front of a solid veteran like Rivers can only make Barksdale look better, IMO. Not playing beside a rookie, or Davin Joseph is probably going to serve him too. The San Diego climate ain’t so bad either. It’s not what he wanted, or expected, but it’s better than a kick in the pants.

    Were I prone to nail biting, I would now be biting mine when thinking about the relative inexperience of the Rams current crop of offensive linemen.

    #24896
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    He signed the same basic contract that Reynolds signed to be a backup, except Reynolds contract is for 2 years.

    I just have this suspicion that Barksdale got his feelings hurt when the Rams didn’t value him as much as he thought they should,

    I’m guessing the Rams “interest” in Barksdale post-draft was of the “come-down-to-earth” variety, and whatever they may have offered before was probably withdrawn.

    Yeah it looks to me like JB got his feelings hurt, and the Rams got less interested after the draft.

    The Rams are not real big on keeping their “ronin” pick-up types. They have let a long list of guys who played for them walk. Turner, Richardson, Hunter, Smith, Williams, Person, and now JB.

    A lot of those guys seem to only play well for the Rams. Turner was the one I wish they had kept. He played center better than Wells did for the Rams. I don’t believe he played well after he left.

    #24897
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    Were I prone to nail biting, I would now be biting mine when thinking about the relative inexperience of the Rams current crop of offensive linemen.

    Nip that cuticle abuse in the bud. The Rams have Gurley. Who needs an O line when Gurley can fly? And in case of a false start Gurley can spin the Earth backwards to go back in time and correct any mistake. Yes we have Gurleyman.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24901
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    “Base minimum, $350K to sign, $1M more available in incentives.”

    WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent. imo

    That cant be right.
    There is no way he is valued by NFL teams at
    that low a price.

    That would really surprise me.

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    #24904
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    this is bad. rams need to sign somebody. ideally only havenstein needs to start this season, and the other rookies can develop. still need somebody to man the lg spot.

    #24906
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    “Base minimum, $350K to sign, $1M more available in incentives.”

    WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent.

    That cant be right.
    There is no way he is valued by NFL teams at
    that low a price.

    That would really surprise me.

    w
    v

    i agree. if rams couldn’t beat that, i don’t know what to say. unless barksdale was just so pissed off that he refused to re-sign with the rams.

    #24907
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    “Base minimum, $350K to sign, $1M more available in incentives.”

    WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent. imo</span></span>

    That cant be right.
    There is no way he is valued by NFL teams at
    that low a price.

    That would really surprise me.

    w
    v

    i agree. if rams couldn’t beat that, i don’t know what to say. unless barksdale was just so pissed off that he refused to re-sign with the rams.

    I’m skeptical about those numbers.

    Obviously, the nefarious, dangerous and wily Ag
    is trying to feed us disinformation.
    The question is Why? What is he up to?

    w
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    #24912
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    The question is Why? What is he up to?

    i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.

    #24913
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    And Barksdale could still be a Ram were it not for an apparent miscalculation by his side on his worth on the free-agent market.

    That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

    #24914
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    And Barksdale could still be a Ram were it not for an apparent miscalculation by his side on his worth on the free-agent market.

    That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

    Well, yes, it looks like Barksdale miscalculated, but if he was willing to sign
    for that little, surely the Rams could have signed him for 2 million or something
    like that. But they didnt. I wonder why.

    And i wonder why none of the other 31 teams offered him more than the Chargers
    did. I can only assume they looked at the tape and didnt particularly like
    what they saw.

    And i also wonder about invader’s diarrhea. Can anything be done?
    Maybe if we simplified the board.

    w
    v

    #24915
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    The question is Why? What is he up to?

    i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.

    That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

    #24917
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    The question is Why? What is he up to?

    i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.

    That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

    Wagoner has never been a voice of reason though;
    Lets wait for Bernie to weigh in
    before we start speculating wildly
    about Invaders evacuation crisis.

    Greg Robinson at LT, The Rookie Frankenstein at RT.
    Could be pretty entertaining. Kinda. In a way.

    w
    v

    #24919
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    The question is Why? What is he up to?

    i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.

    That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

    Wagoner has never been a voice of reason though;
    Lets wait for Bernie to weigh in
    before we start speculating wildly
    about Invaders evacuation crisis.

    Greg Robinson at LT, The Rookie Frankenstein at RT.
    Could be pretty entertaining. Kinda. In a way.

    w
    v

    entertaining for my bowels…

    i blame snisher.

    #24930
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    I have heard a lot of people that get Barksdale contract wrong. They seem to think he is getting 350k/year. He gets the vet minimum for 4-6 year players. That is 745K, plus a bonus of 350k, plus some rinky-dink incentives.

    The fastlane guys seem to think that the Rams offered him either 16 or 14 million for 4 years before the draft.

    Agamemnon

    #24931
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    That is 745K, plus a bonus of 350k, plus some rinky-dink incentives.

    So he is getting 1.095 M.

    I would imagine the Rams woulda given him twice that.

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