Jared Goff & his future with the Rams

Herzog wrote:

zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

it seems to me that if McVay is a dick, we would have heard about it before

We have.

There’s been all sorts of signs of that.

Like what?

well honestly that doesn’t concern me at all.

i mean a head coach and reports of him being an asshole? well duh. i mean even dick vermeil. one of the most beloved head coaches of all time. i mean all time. there were plenty of signs of him being an asshole. him and bruce? him and faulk?

yeah. head coaches have big egos. this is not a newsflash.

if this is a motivational technique. and who knows… i mean i hope it is. mcvay and snead probably know better than we do. what makes goff tick. so maybe they think this will be productive?

….

i hope anyway.

Zooey wrote:

So…is this related to the coaches leaving?

Because…if it is…we in trouble.

I will say I wondered about that.

The impression I get is that he’s a bit of a control freak. Head coaches need to delegate, I think.

nittany ram wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

D’Marco Farr was on 101.1 in St. Louis this morning.

He’s pretty much convinced Snead and McVay are just trying to motivate Goff.

I’m wondering if they are trying to intimidate Goff and his agent to get him to redo his contract.

But that has never happened in the history of ever. No player ever gave back money because the performance didn’t match expectation. And if they just needed to redo the contract in order to sign someone else, this isn’t the way to go about that.

The only explanation that makes any sense is the motivational expectation, but man… this is a bad way to do it. This is the first major screw up we have seen from the front office in years.

What makes Goff tick and put in extra work? None of us know. Their open comments seems like a weird way to motivate him with high potential to do the opposite, but it is possible. Us humans are all different.

None of it makes sense to me.

Matt Stafford

Matthew Stafford thinks Rams are a viable contender to land him in a trade, per report
The Rams have reportedly looking into trading for the Lions’ quarterback
Bryan DeArdo

By Bryan DeArdo
Despite leading the Rams to a Super Bowl, Jared Goff’s job security is now in doubt after reports surfaced regarding Los Angeles’ interest in Matthew Stafford. Stafford considers the Rams a “viable contender” for his services, according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler. The Rams have indeed explored the possibility of trading for Stafford, per Fowler.

Goff’s current contract could play a factor in whether or not a trade can happen. Goff has four years remaining on his $134 million extension, with a potential out after the 2023 season. A former No. 1 overall pick, the 26-year-old Goff is 40-30 as the Rams’ starting quarterback. He went 9-6 as the Rams’ starter in 2020 while helping Los Angeles return to the playoffs after a one-year absence.

About one-third of the league has reached out to the Lions to discuss a possible trade for Stafford, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport. The Lions will likely receive at least one future first-round pick in exchange for Stafford, per Rapoport. Earlier this week, we broke down the five most likely trade fits for Stafford.

After 12 seasons together, Stafford and the Lions have mutually agreed to part ways via trade. Lions coach Dan Campbell and general manager Brad Holmes, who were both hired earlier this month, knew prior to being hired that the Lions were planning to trade Stafford, who still has two years remaining under his current contract. The 32-year-old quarterback is coming off a 2020 season that saw him complete 64.2% of his passes for 4,084 yards, 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

Stafford, the Lions’ franchise leader in just about every career passing category, was named to his first and only Pro Bowl in 2014. The NFL’s two-time leader in pass attempts, Stafford is one of eight quarterbacks in league history to throw for over 5,000 yards in a season. Stafford led the Lions to postseason berths in 2011, 2014 and in 2016. Detroit lost each of their playoff games under Stafford, and are still in search of its first postseason win since 1991.

The Lions have fallen on hard times over the past three seasons. During that span, Detroit has posted a 14-33-1 record. The Lions’ lack of success led to them firing Matt Patricia with five games remaining in the 2020 regular season.

What can the Lions get in exchange for Stafford? Our own Cody Benjamin recently projected that a first and third-round pick would be appropriate compensation for Stafford. Chris Trapasso has the Football Team giving up their first-round pick to acquire Stafford in his most recent mock draft.

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I just don’t like this at all.

This is looking like a bridge burning at this point, and I think it’s the low moment of the Snead Era.

I don’t mind the Rams kicking the tires on other QBs, and holding conversations, but I don’t like the public handling of this. I don’t like anything about the Rams since the Green Bay game.

McVay and Snead have done nothing to quell the fire that they lit over Goff. The Goff situation seems unnecessary to me. Why dangle him at arms’ length while holding their nose? If it’s supposed to be motivational, then they are idiots. There are ways to motivate people positively, and this isn’t it.

There may be more to the story. Maybe there is a work ethic problem, or confrontations we don’t know about, or Goff is changing play calls, or something, but barring behind-the-scenes, not-yet-revealed problems, this just doesn’t look good. The Rams can do much worse than Goff. I should know. I’ve been watching them for more than 50 years.

And…you know…the thing is, there is not a plethora of better QBs available.

Meanwhile, while Goff played poorly a bit here and there, he was mostly satisfactory, and to my eye, the Rams weakness on offense was a sometimes unstable running game (due to injuries), a sometimes unstable OL (due to injuries), and the lack of a vertical passing game. Only the latter might be partly Goff’s fault, but we’ve seen him go vertical effectively in the past, so it seems more likely that they miss Cooks. And from what I can tell, the play-calling was heavily tilted towards horizontal throws that the WR has to wait for, and rely on ROC, rather than hitting the WR in stride. I just don’t think the Rams’ regression offensively is Goff’s fault.

And what are they doing this for? I guess if they manage to bag Watson, then they’re geniuses. But short of that, wtf?

Well, after two days of mulling it over, I still think what I said on the 28th is brilliant. It’s in the stratosphere above all other sports commentary on the Rams. I mean it’s as if I were . . . um . . . well, divinely inspired, or something.

But I’ll add this, too. This all should have been handled “in house,” and we shouldn’t know about any of it, until after a trade or trades. It’s just not professional to blab this all over the place, though I’m not sure who said what to whom.

I’m also wondering, in connection with the threads about coaching losses, if the real issue is that McVay/Snead don’t seem to like hiring from within all that much. That can tend to kill morale too. Zooey might be onto something about staff not particularly liking to work for McVay/Snead, but I’m hoping it’s just the lack of insider hiring. That can be fixed.

Who knows? Has the hype gone to ‘ees ‘ed? As some British bloke likely never said. Or is this all just an upstart mountain within a much older mountain range?

Anyway, I think we’ll learn a hell of a lot more during the Combine and FA.

Hope all is well with youze guys.

zn wrote:

JosinaAnderson@JosinaAnderson
Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: “I’m sure they’ll get a trade, but right now they’re looking for a sucker to overpay.”

Of course they are.

And the other teams are looking for the Lions to take a fire sale offer.

wv wrote:

But if they actually want to improve, and challenge
the Chiefs, they will need to improve the OLine,
and they will need a burner at WR. Imho.
All that is do-able.

agree. oline and deep threat for me.

i would put goff ahead of stafford if for no other reason than he is much younger than stafford. i’d be strongly against that trade.

InvaderRam wrote:

Zooey wrote:

zn wrote:

JosinaAnderson@JosinaAnderson
Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: “I’m sure they’ll get a trade, but right now they’re looking for a sucker to overpay.”

Of course they are.

And the other teams are looking for the Lions to take a fire sale offer.

oh dear.

Yeah…..