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  • #50055
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    ISIAH58: “I tried to channel my inner Jimmy Fadler by live tweeting some of the action. If you see some tweets by @LBRamsfan, that’s my twitter handle. If you are curious about some of the individual plays, I think you can find most of it there.”

    ZN: That’s what this is. For I58’s 8/2 camp report, go here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-report-for-82/#post-50053

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    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Receivers doing a better job of catching contested balls today #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff threads one to Spruce for a TD #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    11 on 11s #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum to Austin for 20 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Gurley gets the left edge behind Robinson #RamsCamp

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    Bennie stuffed for no gain #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Hager plugs the hole nicely for a short gain #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Hager plugs the hole nicely for a short gain #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Gurley squirms through or 5 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum hits Britt on a come back route #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Manion up the seam to Cunningham for 20 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Mannion having a nice set in 11 on 11 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum converts a 3rd and three to Kendricks over the middle #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Gurley with a nice catch over the middle for a big gain #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Flanker screen to Austin does not convert the first down due to Trumaine #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum to Kendricks again for a first #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff to M Thomas over the middle for 10 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Miscommunication between Goff and receiver almost led to a pick by Gaines #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff to Higbee ends the drill. Offense looking pretty good overall #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Setting up for 7 on 7. First play Joiner makes a great leaping interception over the middle #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum overthrows Kendricks in the corner, then hits Britt over the middle #RamsCamp

    ZN NOTE: THE ABOVE IS SUPPOSED TO BE MIKE THOMAS, NOT WILLIAMS. I COULDN’T EDIT A VID TWEET OR I WOULD HAVE

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum to Higbee in the corner #toetap #RamsCamp

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    Goff to Harkey on an end zone come back for 6 #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff to Duke Williams for a nice diving touchdown in the back of the end zone #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Breaking up into group drills now. Offense had some nice success in 7s and 11s #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Back to 11 on 11. Donald blows up Gurley in the backfield #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Nice protection for Keenum, who hit his third option for first down #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff in a rhythm hits Harkey over the middle #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff in a rhythm hits Harkey over the middle #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Trumaine with a nice break up on Britt at the goal line #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Greg Williams after a stop for no gain: “nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!” #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Mannion to Spruce, who spins out of the grasp of the defender for a good gain. #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Mannion to Spruce, who spins out of the grasp of the defender for a good gain. #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Keenum hits Britt on a nice timing route, and the Kendricks over the middle. #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Goff sacked when couldn’t find an open receiver. #RamsCamp

    LBRamsfan ‏@LBRamsFan
    Mannion drills a ball to Duke Williams who makes two straight diving catches #RamsCamp

    #50056
    Isiah58
    Participant

    Note that I had a brain cramp and kept calling Mike Thomas Mike “Williams”. Will adjust in the future.
    Isiah 58

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #50059
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    Note that I had a brain cramp and kept calling Mike Thomas Mike “Williams”. Will adjust in the future.
    Isiah 58

    Do you want me to change it here via edit?

    #50062
    Isiah58
    Participant

    it was only a few posts, but maybe it will make me seem like less of a dope, so yeah.

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #50136
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    How does Mannion look? Is he a viable possible future #2? (Keenum right now is on a 1-year.)

    #50143
    Isiah58
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    When I got to the first practice, I watched the QBs go through their footwork drills. Thompson, Goff, and Keenum went through the drills very smoothly, but Mannion looked laughably bad at it. And it made me wonder about his skill level. But then in the actual throwing drills, he looks very good and very polished. I like that he has a big arm and is not afraid to use it. Everything I saw from Mannion outside of the footwork drills was very good, although he is relegated to third string snaps. I would not be surprised if he is the back-up next year, and I think he will flourish in that role and could come in and win a game or two.

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #50144
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    When I got to the first practice, I watched the QBs go through their footwork drills. Thompson, Goff, and Keenum went through the drills very smoothly, but Mannion looked laughably bad at it. And it made me wonder about his skill level. But then in the actual throwing drills, he looks very good and very polished. I like that he has a big arm and is not afraid to use it. Everything I saw from Mannion outside of the footwork drills was very good, although he is relegated to third string snaps. I would not be surprised if he is the back-up next year, and I think he will flourish in that role and could come in and win a game or two.

    Interesting.

    Yeah my take on Mannion is that he CAN be good in spite of some physical flaws (like slow feet).

    This is my take on Mannion. It’s hardly original, just spelling it out.

    Keenum is on a one-year. If they can sign him again, I like their depth. If they can’t Mannion is the #2 (provided he comes through). Even if they do sign CK after the year, they presumably have Mannion as the #2 if Goff misses time. In fact if that happens look for them to draft another young qb for the #3 spot.

    How many times over the last decade have the Rams started their 3rd qb? For that matter at one point Bulger was the 3rd qb. Off the top of my head, without being thorough, there was Bulger Martin Fitzpatrick. There was Bulger Boller Null. There was Bradford Feeley Clemens. In 2014 technically before the injury Austin Davis was the #3.

    And if they’re lucky and Mannion develops to be a starting caliber guy, well, that’s just a good problem to have.

    The thing is, he seems to work around his limitations. So for example he has an odd wind-up release yet the ball comes out quickly enough anyway. He has lumbering feet but he might be one of those guys, like Hav, who just gets to the right place at the right time anyway (Hav isn’t known for nifty feet). So it’s like Hav and Mannion are both Lurch, but still manage to play effectively.

    #50146
    Isiah58
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    I think if Fisher/Snead are running this team next year, Mannion will be the number 2. Keenum will move on, and the Rams will make use of that third round draft pick they used on Mannion. You can play in the NFL with clunky feet, if you do other things well. With two years in this offense under his belt, Mannion should be the favorite to be the back-up in ’17.

    Of course, if Fisher and Snead don’t get re-upped (and believe they will and should), then all bets are off. They will likely have a new offensive coordinator (which won’t help Goff) and Mannion’s positive of having two years in the system will be for naught. We could see another veteran come in who is familiar with the new OC in that situation. That is, the would bring in someone who could help teach the system to Goff and already knows the new offense.

    Isiah 58

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #50159
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Great camp info! Thanks, Isiah. Keep it coming.

    In your opinion, is there a benchmark that Snisher needs to reach to keep their jobs and what is it? Would you want them re-upped under any circumstances or do you have a threshold?

    #50168
    Isiah58
    Participant

    yeah, you have to understand that I am the most polly-anish Rams fan you will ever meet. Seriously, its just the way I am wired. So I will root and believe in the Rams’ players and coaches to the very bitter end (I wanted Tony Banks to get another shot!).

    That said, I am not blind. The home loss to Chicago last year really took me by surprise and made me doubt the team. A bunch of blow-out losses this year would obviously necessitate a change, although I would still hope that Snead is retained. I would then start over with the new guy being MY guy with my heart and soul.

    But I believe what’s best for the team is continuity, and I believe that Jeff Fisher can get the job done. I also believe that there are only a few men on the planet who could have taken over the ’12 Rams and made them a winner in 3 years

      while still building the team for long-term success

    . This is a division where the 49ers went to 3 straight NFC championship games, the Seahawks have been to 2 Superbowls, and the Cardinals have been one of the best teams in the league the last two years. Looking JUST at Jeff Fisher’s record over this time is shortsighted IMHO. This division is brutal. The Rams would have won the AFC South last year. How many teams beat Arizona and Seattle last year in their buildings? A team that could accomplish that feat is very close.

    I recently watched the Baltimore game again from last year. If you remember, the Rams lost that game. I forgot that they took a 13-3 lead into the 4th quarter. Two Gurley fumbles in Rams’ territory basically brought the Ravens back into the game, and a missed Zuerline FG gave the Ravens life to pull out a last second miracle, but the Rams dominated that game for the first three quarters. The managed to lose the 49ers game as well despite leading that game late, and missing a FG to win. They missed a FG with 2 minutes left that could have won the Vikings game. That’s all that stood between the Rams having a 10-6 record last year. See, I told you I was Polly-anish! : )

    So, I see the team differently than most and it is definitely a minority opinion skewed by hardcore rose colored glasses, but I think the team is still ascending and I want to keep the coach and GM in place, if for no other reason than to prevent what happened to Bradford and the parade of offensive coordinators every year. Plus I LIKE Fisher and Snead, and want them to do well and flourish. Starting over is no guaranty of improvement (See Linehan and Spagnulo), and I don’t vote for change for the sake of change. My philosophy, your mileage may vary.

    I58

    “Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.” - Homer Simpson

    #50175
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    i kinda feel the same way. goff in particular needs stability more than anything. changing just for the sake of change is not going to help this offense.

    and i like the direction this team is going. i don’t think it’s as easy as just looking at the record and chalking it up as a failure.

    #50178
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    I’m not sure there is a right or wrong answer. There are valid arguements why Fisher should already be gone and your arguement of why he shouldn’t is equally valid.

    Before I pass my final judgement I’d like to see what he can do with an actual NFL QB under center instead of what he’s been forced to deal with. Yeah, he chose Foles but nobody could have foreseen that epic meltdown coming.

    #50200
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    I think the team is still ascending and I want to keep the coach and GM in place, if for no other reason than to prevent what happened to Bradford and the parade of offensive coordinators every year. Plus I LIKE Fisher and Snead, and want them to do well and flourish.

    I’m not sure that’s a minority position on THIS board. We have some skeptics and doubters and flat-out anti-Fisher guys, but I think most of the posters here are somewhere in between what you just said (which speaks for me too btw virtually word for word) and a more wait-n-see, but cautiously okay with it stance.

    My own feeling, to add to what you said, is this: given that last year they had a melted down starting qb plus a pretty good #2 qb type, a very inexperienced OL, key defensive injuries, and a very tough schedule, pulling off 7-9 was actually quite an accomplishment.

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