informal poll … how do the Rams look in free agency so far

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  • March 9, 2016 at 7:40 pm #40308
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    I have to ponder it a bit before I pitch in.

    More interested in others responses right now.

    March 9, 2016 at 7:49 pm #40311
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    How do things look so far?

    Looks clear.

    March 9, 2016 at 8:08 pm #40313
    sdram
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    ? – early. Glad they tagged TJ and let JJ go – not sure about the money Barron got. Didn’t see McCleod getting 7 million or so a season. I’m still hoping for a FA QB – and not just a body or RGIII.

    I was expecting a big splash of some kind. Splashes are expensive it seems.

    Maybe I need to raise my expectations.

    March 9, 2016 at 8:13 pm #40314
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    They did OK, but, I thought they could have done more/better before it got to the 11th hour. I hope next year is better.

    Agamemnon

    March 10, 2016 at 8:54 am #40347
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    Last year I saw some people around there, on the net in general, lamenting that the Rams did not sign veterans for the OL.

    Well if they had, there would be even less cap space now, and a chance of losing one of the guys they did sign.

    Any vet they signed in 2015 who was worth it would have been taking cap space from 2016.

    I always thought they had to choose their poison—go young on the OL and save 2016 and 2017 cap space, or add vets to the OL and subtract 2016 and 2017 cap space.

    I think of the 2 poisons they chose the right one.

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    March 10, 2016 at 9:20 am #40348
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    zn wrote:

    Last year I saw some people around there, on the net in general, lamenting that the Rams did not sign veterans for the OL.

    Well if they had, there would be even less cap space now, and a chance of losing one of the guys they did sign.

    Any vet they signed in 2015 who was worth it would have been taking cap space from 2016.

    I always thought they had to choose their poison—go young on the OL and save 2016 and 2017 cap space, or add vets to the OL and subtract 2016 and 2017 cap space.

    I think of the 2 poisons they chose the right one.

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    Excellent points. Fans in general, miss that kind of stuff.

    w
    v

    March 10, 2016 at 9:44 am #40351
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    zn wrote:

    Last year I saw some people around there, on the net in general, lamenting that the Rams did not sign veterans for the OL.

    Well if they had, there would be even less cap space now, and a chance of losing one of the guys they did sign.

    Any vet they signed in 2015 who was worth it would have been taking cap space from 2016.

    I always thought they had to choose their poison—go young on the OL and save 2016 and 2017 cap space, or add vets to the OL and subtract 2016 and 2017 cap space.

    I think of the 2 poisons they chose the right one.

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    I think you are right.

    I was hoping for a veteran lineman or two last season to help bridge the gap for a season or two. This time of year, I’m always kind of like the kid who goes Christmas shopping with his mom and wants everything – same deal with the draft.

    Some of the guys that were available – nobody signed – which is a sign regarding them I would think. There were guys available into training camp. But, I’m wondering does Saffold count? He may have been the previous offseason. I was happy they kept him when they did envisioning him playing consistently well like he did for that portion of a season stretch several years ago. Now, not so much. So, keeping your own injury prone linemen isn’t always a good investment either it seems.

    Are they stuck with Saffold for another season or two? When is his contract year – he seems to stay healthy during a contract season. Maybe too much dead money would be created to not try to resurrect his battered body for another season.

    But, like you said they had to pick their poison – and it seems that JJ or TJ and\or McCleod\Barron again, were additional choices for this offseason. Apparently 155 Million doesn’t go as far as it used to.

    March 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm #40387
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    Just a thought on free agency.

    When was the last time the Rams let good draft picks go in free agency because quote unquote you can’t keep em all?

    Maybe Fletcher? (But then the idea they couldn’t keep Fletcher was a misconception on their part). (Plus of course London wasn’t a draft pick but you know what I mean.)

    It’s not Holt or Bruce…they were past their prime.

    Letting Jenkins go is an interesting by-product of drafting 2 good CBs in one year. Once they were both up for free agency, there was always a chance they could not keep both.

    We as fans haven’t been in this position for a long time because the drafting from 2000-2008 was overall pretty bad, while the drafting from 2009-2011 was most just average with the occasional score like Quinn.

    Now, the Rams have players we would like to see them keep. But, they can’t.

    Teams like New England and Pittsburgh are in this position all the time. In comparison we’re not used to it.

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    March 10, 2016 at 9:57 pm #40390
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    i wanted mcleod back. that’s what i’m most disappointed in.

    and for what the steelers signed green for? but who knows if he even wanted to play for the rams.

    otherwise job well done.

    March 10, 2016 at 10:26 pm #40393
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    Another note on the market this year. Posting them as the occur to me.

    EVERYONE knew this would be a boom free agency market. It was being written about in the sports media from the second they announced the 2016 cap, and it was known before then.

    The players wanted to hit the market. There was just less of an opportunity to extend players ahead of the market. Cause, you can’t extend players who want to hit the market.

    I don’t know this for a fact but I bet if someone looked up the details, this would be a unique market. More players tagged throughout the league than usual just to keep them, fewer extensions overall throughout the league, more big 1st day of free agency payouts. I can’t prove that without the numbers but I have a hunch it’s true.

    IMO what happened with the Rams was league-wide.

    InvaderRam wrote:

    i wanted mcleod back. that’s what i’m most disappointed in.

    Yeah I was hoping they would keep McCleod too, but I console myself on that one with some different thoughts. Basically, I think that the Rams had a lower value on signing McL than McL could get on the market.

    And remember, this is a very good D coach who has one primary strength above others—developing DBs, particularly safeties. This goes throughout his whole career. Bowens, the former Ram turned Washington DB who played for Wms in Washington turned reporter, has famously said that GW knows how to get the most out of safety play. So that not only means they trust his ability to find a replacement, but they also trust his eye for what a particular player is worth

    March 15, 2016 at 6:31 pm #40631
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    Signed and/or retained:

    Sensabaugh (most likely as a nickel)

    Johnson
    Barron
    Hayes
    Sims
    Barnes
    Quick
    Harkey
    Keenum
    Cory Davis
    Bryant

    Lost:

    Johnson
    McLeod
    Long
    Laurinaitis
    Cook

    Pending:

    Fairley
    Welker
    Zuerlein
    C.Reynolds
    Cunningham

    Interests that didn’t work out (that we know of so far):

    Zach Miller
    Mercedes Lewis

    March 15, 2016 at 8:24 pm #40648
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    Cunningham has been tendered. He hasn’t signed yet. Guessing the Rams have ~3M left in effective cap space.

    Agamemnon

    March 15, 2016 at 8:25 pm #40649
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    i like the sensabaugh signing. if this does mean we see joyner at free safety i like it. he’s a playmaker.

    again. i thought they should have tried to sign green but otherwise they almost look set for the draft.

    March 16, 2016 at 5:58 am #40657
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    They have a few of their own guys to follow up on. They will still look for bargains. All the heavy lifting appears to be done, although they could make money for someone if they wanted. imo

    Agamemnon

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