How far away is this team ?

zn wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

They are a year away. They need better luck with injuries.

I agree with that.

They also need better DE depth.

Along with other stuff they need.

Right, I figure they will do something with all their cap space and draft capitol, in a good draft, that sets up to meet almost any need for any team. We don’t always get that in a draft.

wv wrote:

bnw wrote:

This team is another decade away if they can’t field a decent O line and a decent QB since the defense will be changing personnel or it’s star performers declining. This season was this teams best shot.

Well do you think Fisher should
get another Decade?

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No. Perhaps not even next season. Snead too.

bnw wrote:

What difference does a ranking mean if he can’t stay on the field?

He missed (I think) two games. That doesn;t make him a Saffold.

In terms of injuries, this is just the Rams curse. In the last 2 years they added 8 young linemen. So far 7 of them have been injured. The only one who hasn’t been is Battle and that’s because he hasn’t played. It’s just a bizarre Rams thing.

Either way, I don’t fault RH for missing a couple of games.

They need a legitimate LT for one thing, to settle the line. And they need a legitimate QB.

Does that get done next year?

I doubt it. I hope so, but who knows?

Until they solve that they will continue to struggle. And if it takes two years they’ll be watching the defense decline as they bring in new players there.

I am not sold that this team gets there. I’m not sold this coach can get them there.

I hope everyone is laughing at this post next year when the Rams roll into the playoffs. But I just don’t have that feeling right now.

Bottom line this coach doesn’t have what it takes to get there. The Cheatriots started a 4th rd. rookie LG and Free agent Rookie C in what was their eighth different OL this season and first loss coming at Denver in OT. Fisher is the problem.

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

Bottom line this coach doesn’t have what it takes to get there. The Cheatriots started a 4th rd. rookie LG and Free agent Rookie C in what was their eighth different OL this season and first loss coming at Denver in OT. Fisher is the problem.

The patriots got away with a crippled OL because of Brady, who was capable of running an offense that got the ball away quickly. All the Patz example shows you is that other teams should have Brady.

As a rule, a rookie OL is going to struggle. Search all of NFL history and you will keep coming up with only the 2015 Patz who got away with it, and again that’s solely because of Brady.

I’ve been keeping tabs on that one. When Brady holds the ball for more than 2.1 seconds, their offense struggles.

http://theramshuddle.com/topic/pff-on-how-patz-beat-miami-with-injured-ol/

The Rams are a mediocre QB away from contending. I take it for granted that the OL will be better next year. A decent OL and a mediocre passing game is enough to win games with the defense (should it stay pat). That is all the Rams needed this year.

A #1 WR would help a lot, but the biggest need is a QB who can rate in the upper 80s, low 90s.

That could be as close as Sean Mannion, and as far away as the final Star Wars film.

This offense is not just on the QB or the O-Line, imo. The WRs are just bad in general. Just a below par group. Tavon Austin is more a wild card type of position, getting many of his yards on misdirection and creating in space. I have to say that the Rams have done a very good job of giving him more chances this year to create plays. And, even with his improvement, the other WRs STILL can’t make plays. They have airheads like Cook and inconsistent vets like Quick and Britt, and little else. I really think that Welker is now the team’s best WR threat. He may be the only dependable one.

I thought the O-line was just getting it together before blowing up with injuries. I like the idea of moving G-Rob inside and drafting a LT high … the problem is that they need to draft LT, QB and WR all high, and might need to draft CB high, too, with JJ’s contract coming due.

And, even if they could draft all of those positions, and hit on every pick, I’d say that this offense wouldn’t reach its potential for a couple more years. How long a window do we have with this defense?

1) The Rams are a head coach away from being a serious contender….Need an HC, I’m done with Fisher… It’s not the game passed him by, because in order for the game to pass him by, he needed to be ahead of the game at one time in his career in order for that to happen…..I don’t think Fisher has the skills to implement a plan……, to me he’s a glorified special teams coach…..his most famous plays are the Music City Miracle, Hekker punt fakes, and using Tavon as a decoy against the Colts…..

2) Need better talent evaluators, if these guys made the trade for Foles, thinking he was a legit QB or going out of the their way to get Head Case Keenum back in camp, then these guys need to bring Don Klosterman back from the dead….. the RAMS need talent eval guys who can find talent in the mid rounds…. this staff hasn’t done it for the skill positions…and the FAs (Kenny Brit and Dane Cook) are Fisher bonus moody babies from Fisher’s past life that are not difference makers…..

The past month of football has been a snapshot of the Rams ability, they can’t win the close game in OT, nor hold a 4th quarter 10 point lead……and they have been blown out in the other 2 games…..

“Fisher ball” is supposed to win those close games or at least protect a 10 point lead like they had in Baltimore.

Is Marty Schottenheimer too old to be HC? He can turn this fucking shit around….

EVERY NFC WEST TEAM HAS BEEN TO THE SUPERBOWL SINCE 2008, EXCEPT FOR THE RAMS…SINCE 2008, the RAMS haven’t sniffed the playoffs…..

joemad wrote:

1) Need better talent evaluators, if these guys made the trade for Foles, thinking he was a legit QB or going out of the their way to get Head Case Keenum back in camp, then these guys need to bring Don Klosterman back from the dead….. the RAMS need talent eval guys who can find talent in the mid rounds…. this staff hasn’t done it for the skill positions…and the FAs (Kenny Brit and Dane Cook) are Fisher bonus moody babies from Fisher’s past life that are not difference makers…..

I was actually thinking about this during the game yesterday. I think they’ve been OK in the draft … except for missing on G-Rob (yes, I’m calling it a miss at LT) and passing on WR that year. But, they sure haven’t been good in evaluating their own talent, nor other teams’ pro talent. They’ve really screwed the pooch at WR and LT. Long was about done with his injuries, then they take G-Rob. So many times we heard that they would be OK at WR, but week after week the Rams face teams with 2 or 3 better starting wideouts better than the Rams’ bunch. I wonder if this crew knows how to evaluate, or use, the WR position.

And, Cook. Cook is a the prime example of how Fisher values guys he knows, to a fault. Fisher had to know that guy was a space cadet. I know that coaches think they can “coach up” a headcase and make him special. You know that Cook has physical talent. Anyone can see that. But, do you want him out there as a key element to your offense? For big free agent TE money? No way.

But, when you continue to get guys like that, you continue to make mistakes. G-Rob might fit in the Cook category of physical freak/nothing upstairs.

What’s weird is that when they went for the opposite type of guy, Barrett Jones, he couldn’t break the starting line-up.

There’s a lot of blame to go around for how the Rams got here. It’s just unbelievable that this team is this bad this far into the season yet again. I don’t know if you can keep giving this group more chances. But, it doesn’t matter anyway: The only thing the owner is interested in right now is how he can get out of St. Louis. I wouldn’t think he’d change the head coach or GM until after he can make a move.

But, it doesn’t matter anyway: The only thing the owner is interested in right now is how he can get out of St. Louis. I wouldn’t think he’d change the head coach or GM until after he can make a move.

I think you’re correct on 2 points:

1) That was Stan’s M.O. in Denver with the Nuggets… kept George Karl for about 10 years… i think Stan likes stability at HC.

2) I think he likes Fisher to help manage a potential move like Fisher did when he replaced Jack Pardee in Houston when the Oilers moved to Tenn…..At this time, Stan’s priority is his potential real estate empire in LA to attract furture $$$$$

Jeff Fisher doesn’t cut it as a head coach in the NFL…..

i agree with those who say the rams need a qb. so it isn’t necessarily a matter of time but a matter of if they can find a qb. if they can find a qb it could be next year. if they can’t it’ll be never. and they just need a competent qb. they don’t need a great one.