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    No QB means no hope

    Benjamin Hochman

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/hochman-no-qb-means-no-hope/article_14d4af46-98d7-5b33-8474-48038a42de46.html

    On Jan. 15, 2005, a spry ballplayer, fresh off his rookie season, turned 25 years old.

    His name was Matt Holliday.

    On that same date, Topher Grace hosted “Saturday Night Live” and “The Da Vinci Code” topped the New York Times bestseller list. And the St. Louis Rams played a playoff game.

    Their most recent playoff game.

    Eleven consecutive seasons now, the Rams haven’t made it to the postseason, confirmed Sunday with Seattle’s win. The Rams are officially eliminated from playoff contention, so I suppose this is the obituary of the Rams’ playoff hopes.

    Now, the Rams could very well win at Seattle and San Francisco, finishing 8-8, and then you’ll hear about momentum for St. Louis heading into next season (assuming the Rams play in St. Louis next season). “They won their four final games! Case Keenum could be the answer!”

    No. No. Stop it. No.

    Whether the Rams finish with six, seven or eight wins, this season was a failure.

    We can talk about Jeff Fisher, and how it’s historically inexplicable that he’ll probably keep his job after four seasons without playoff football.

    But the Rams’ problem is the man he and the front office picked to be the franchise’s quarterback – a man who hasn’t played like a franchise quarterback.

    Nick Foles — a nice fellow and all that — isn’t the future. Keenum — fun story and all that — is not the transcendent signal-caller who can lead a team to relevance over a full season.

    The Rams’ starting quarterback for 2016 should be someone who isn’t on the team in 2015.

    As for Foles, the Rams can’t do much about the extension and guaranteed money they gave him before his first St. Louis game. It happened. And yes, give the Rams some credit for taking a chance on Foles. But they cannot waste time trying to see this particular investment through. They haven’t played a playoff game since Jan. 15, 2005. And next season, they’ll either be trying to win over a new fan base, or trying, somehow, to convince their current fan base that something will actually be different in 2016.

    The Rams must be creative in the trade market or bold in the draft room and find a quarterback.

    I know this sounds simple, for football is such a complex and strategic puzzle, but if you don’t have a quarterback who is really good at football, you probably won’t make the playoffs. The amount of impact a quarterback has on a team is disproportionately high compared to the other positions. Ernie Accorsi, the longtime NFL executive, was often quoted of saying that, in a way, maybe the second-most important position on a team is the backup quarterback. Defense is important but a quarterback is imperative. A rushing game can change the game — we’ve seen it at times with Todd Gurley — but a complementary passing game isn’t a luxury in the 2015 NFL; it’s a necessity.

    Accorsi actually mentored John Elway, now the Broncos’ general manager. Elway has occasionally quoted Accorsi’s advice: “If you want to build a winning team, you need two things. You had better get a quarterback, and then you had better get a guy who can knock down the quarterback.”

    The Rams have Aaron Donald (and Robert Quinn should be back next season), but they don’t have a quarterback and, really, they don’t have an offensive line to protect him.

    The result, when Foles played, was gross. And, man, what a tease, too, after that opening win against Seattle.

    So, ESPN has a stat called Total Quarterback Rating (Total QBR) . Yes, some of you are wary of a stat that wasn’t on the back of trading cards in your childhood. But smart people cook up these numbers — I actually personally know Dean Oliver, the mathematician who helped popularize this stat. As Oliver explains to readers on ESPN’s site: “The Total Quarterback Rating is a statistical measure that incorporates the contexts and details of a quarterback’s throws and what they mean for wins. … We understand first what each play means to the team, then we give credit to the quarterback for what happened on that play, based on what he contributed.”

    OK, so here we go. Entering Sunday, Carson Palmer led the NFL with an 83.6 Total QBR. Ranked 32nd? Nicholas Edward Foles, 30.0.

    It doesn’t matter what city the Rams call home next season: If they don’t get good quarterback play, they’ll still be the same old Rams.

    #35866
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    QB is the most important position
    on the football team.

    Everyone has their own style of
    writing about that. Some use lots
    of words and numbers and some dont.

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    #35867
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    Well according to the stats at ESPN, Case Keenum had a 158.0 QB rating for the Bucs game.

    A perfect rating is 158.3. So clearly Keenum has room for improvement–.3 room to be exact. But all you kids out there–when was the last time a Rams had a QB with a perfect rating or even one that close?

    Of course no one will know that and I doubt anyone will be sifting through past games until they strike gold but I gotta say: Keenum did very well. Is he THE answer at QB? I don’t know–but if no one is really worthy in the draft, and since we have a young guy in Mannion–and IF Keenum continues to perform well–I’d bring him back–draft a receiver in the first round and see what happens.

    Of course there is the question of salvaging Nick Foles. Is it worth the time and trouble and effort? Would he bring even more than Keenum? I don’t know that either. Certainly it would be hard to put Foles back in if Keenum does well the last two games–and if they did and he comes out of the gate horrible–what do you do? Do we want to replay this year?

    IMO, if Keenum does well–go with Keenum, Mannion and find a way to dump Foles. Put another project in the #3 spot. I don’t know how that works with regard to salary cap but in my pretend world there is no salary cap so it doesn’t matter.

    I just hope they aren’t stuck with Foles because I can’t see that helping him or the team.

    Extending him looks like it was a mistake at this point. But it is what it is.

    Lots of questions for the off season.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #35869
    bnw
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    Keenum has earned the job. Get a decent O line and Keenum and Gurley will do fine.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #35870
    Herzog
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    I’m glad he cleared that up. I thought you could win with a bad quarterback. He set me straight.

    NEXT!!!

    #35871
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    Until they say what goes into the GBR, it won’t mean anything. It is the equivalent of the Magic 8-Ball.

    The QB position in the draft is like the rest of the draft, no real killer talent at the top, but a lot of good talent after that. imo

    I am ready to move on from Foles. He was/is never going to be the final answer at QB. imo

    There is no proof that Keenum is the answer or that Mannion is the answer. Although going with Mannion next year is fine with me.

    If the right guy is there, in any round, I will draft a QB. If not, then I will draft a different position.

    Maybe Foles has a miracle cure? Maybe there is another answer out there? Maybe we already have an answer? Maybe we just keep trying until we get it right?

    Agamemnon

    #35873
    Dak
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    Somewhere, there’s a stock boy in Iowa, biding his time …

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