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November 12, 2014 at 7:03 pm #11736GreatRamNTheSkyParticipant
I don’t think there was a real choice in regarding benching Davis. I think he hit a wall mentally and emotionally and was not going to get any better. Standing and watching for a while is probably the best thing for him.
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November 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm #11737InvaderRamModeratorwhat happens if the rams still lose with hill at qb? to put it all on davis and fisher’s decision to keep him as the starter for one extra week. i don’t know. a lot of other things were going wrong with this team besides those two things.
now doesn’t that make everyone feel better?
November 12, 2014 at 10:44 pm #11749znModeratorWho has rewind?
Maybe, if you can, go back and watch the first half of the Vikes game again.
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November 13, 2014 at 10:38 am #11765TrenchRamParticipantI’ve been pretty down on this coaching staff, but I’m fine with how long they gave Davis. When he became the starter, he showed that he could play a lot better than they gave him credit for. He seemed to correct a lot of mistakes fairly quickly, so giving him some time to see if he could get better at recognizing the blitz and finding the hot read seems like it was worth a shot to me. If that really was his problem, we should see the O become productive again with a veteran in there.
November 13, 2014 at 4:55 pm #11774rflParticipantwhat happens if the rams still lose with hill at qb?
This is the wrong question to ask.
There are no guarantees. We might lose with Hill. Hill might play poorly. Who knows?
Coaching decisions must be judged on what is known BEFORE the event. What do we know?
We know who Davis is. Really, we do. He is, as ZN says, an emotional guy who blows hot and cold, a pop-gun armed passer who can only throw the high ball, and a guy who panics and collapses into disaster mode. He hasn’t troubled a defense in weeks. We won the SF game, but not because of Davis, who sucked.
Going into this week, most people expected AZ to shut Davis down. They did. He made like 3 good passes all day and then melted down. THIS WAS COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE KNOWING WHAT WE KNEW BEFORE THE GAME!
We also know that Hill has a track record of pretty good, fairly sophisticated QBing in this league. He is no star. But he is solid and can be productive. He has DONE IT over a range of years.
We don’t know if his age will be an issue. We don’t know if he will be rusty. We don’t know whether we can win even if he plays better than Davis has. Hill could have a great day and not be within 15 points of Manning.
The point is whether a coach makes the decision that gives his team the best chance of winning. For weeks now, it has been clear that Davis has actually reduced our chances of winning. Hill at least gives us a chance of doing better.
We don’t have to win the game to prove the logic of the switch to be correct. Hell, even if Hill tanks, it would still have been worth it to take the chance. Davis will NOT get it done. Hill might. I’ll take Hill.
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November 16, 2014 at 1:54 am #11908znModeratorWe don’t know if his age will be an issue. We don’t know if he will be rusty. We don’t know whether we can win even if he plays better than Davis has. Hill could have a great day and not be within 15 points of Manning.
We don’t have to win the game to prove the logic of the switch to be correct. Hell, even if Hill tanks, it would still have been worth it to take the chance. Davis will NOT get it done. Hill might. I’ll take Hill.
I think that sums it up nicely.
November 16, 2014 at 10:12 am #1192621DogParticipantI don’t like Davis throwing with Ware and Miller in his face at all.
Hill might not fare much better but at least he won’t soil his pants at the first sign of pressure.
November 16, 2014 at 11:14 am #11936DakParticipantI’ll have to say that I was disappointed that the Rams stuck with Davis another week, and last week just solidified that he cannot be a week-to-week starter in this league. You could see that he couldn’t process information quickly, could not beat blitzes, could not look downfield while under pressure, could not make strong throws downfield unless kept clean … just could not play QB effectively in this league.
So, yeah, I think RFL’s criticism of Fisher is justified. I was upset, too. I think that Fisher wanted to see if Austin Davis could improve, and he stuck with him too long after making the declaration that Davis was the starter the rest of the year. I think he made that declaration only so Davis wouldn’t look over his shoulder. And, I’m fine with that. But, Davis knows he wasn’t playing well, and any QB not playing well knows he is in jeopardy of being replaced. Fisher should have replaced Davis, and he should have done it earlier.
November 18, 2014 at 8:21 am #12100znModeratorDavis knows he wasn’t playing well, and any QB not playing well knows he is in jeopardy of being replaced. Fisher should have replaced Davis, and he should have done it earlier.
It is true…or rather I believe…that if they had replaced him a game sooner, Rams woulda won the ARZ game.
But…though he didn’t play well in the SF game…they won that one, so, I don’t think Fisher would have replaced him at that point.
I still wish they had done it then anyway. Shrug.
November 19, 2014 at 12:49 am #12140znModeratorInteresting thing about Hill from the Jeff Fisher Show: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jeff-fisher-show-november-17/ . Fisher of course praises the poise, consistency, quick decisions. But, Hill helped a lot in the running game by audibling out of bad run calls to the pass, and audibling into good run calls out of the pass. Fisher says a lot of what made the run game work was because of Hill doing that.
November 19, 2014 at 9:27 am #12150DakParticipantInteresting thing about Hill from the Jeff Fisher Show: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jeff-fisher-show-november-17/ . Fisher of course praises the poise, consistency, quick decisions. But, Hill helped a lot in the running game by audibling out of bad run calls to the pass, and audibling into good run calls out of the pass. Fisher says a lot of what made the run game work was because of Hill doing that.
I saw that. Interesting stuff.
You’re probably right about Fisher not changing his QB because they won the SF game. I think that’s the wrong way to think. I mean, that game was a toss-up at the end there, and the Rams were lucky with that fumble at the goal line. Hell, they could have just as easily ruled that a TD. So, how does that affect whether Austin Davis should get another chance? Strange.
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