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November 21, 2014 at 4:03 am #12277znModerator
Just a bunch of related quotations pointing to advantages Hill brings as a vet qb. Some are about Hill, and some are from Hill. They all show this professional veteran composure and a sense of how to get it done.
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“Shaun played a hell of a game,” defensive end William Hayes said. “He showed he had guts. He hit a couple of passes where he knew he was gonna take hits, and still delivered the ball.”…
And when things got a little chaotic, Hill’s steady hand helped calm down the huddle. “He keeps his composure,” Britt said. “When we got caught up in the moment, he came into the huddle and said, ‘Hey guys, Relax. Calm down.’”
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FISHER ON HILL: “He’ll have his teammates prepared, as he’ll have himself prepared to play.”
SCHOTTENHEIMER ON HILL now that he’s starting: “More verbal, more vocal now just because he wants to make sure guys know what he expects.”
FISHER ON HILL’S AUDIBLES TO RUN PLAYS: “He’s done a lot of good stuff as I’ve said, in our run game, optimize the position as far as the defense is concerned.”
HILL: “A lot of guys when you come from college there’s a handful of games that you have to show up and play the whole game. Some of them you just roll your hat out there and you win. Some of them you can play your very best and not beat the opponent. Not in the NFL it takes 60 minutes for 16 weeks. That’s something that I think we’re learning. This is obviously a step in the right direction.”
HILL On how he keeps everyone calm in the huddle: “It just depends on the situation. Sometimes you do have to say something, but sometimes it’s just a little quick look. There’s a lot of ways you can handle things. You have to know the guys and they kind of have to know you. Sometimes the things are too intense, sometimes a little joke, something to lighten it up too.”
November 21, 2014 at 7:11 am #12278DakParticipantThanks for compiling those quotes, zn. I really think that Hill’s play was the biggest thing aside from the D, and if he keeps playing like this, the Rams will be a tough out for any opponent.
November 21, 2014 at 12:53 pm #12284Eternal RamnationParticipantOne thing that surprised me was arm strength. Fisher said something about Hill’s arm being fresh from the time off (he did throw a lot in camp and preseason,more than he is used to) Britt remarked how he must have spent the time off in the weight room. When I rewatched the game somewhere between 4 and 4 million times his delivery looked much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game 1.
November 21, 2014 at 12:57 pm #12285wvParticipantOne thing that surprised me was arm strength. Fisher said something about Hill’s arm being fresh from the time off (he did throw a lot in camp and preseason,more than he is used to) Britt remarked how he must have spent the time off in the weight room. When I rewatched the game somewhere between 4 and 4 million times his delivery looked much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game
Yeah, that was a great performance considering the
long layoff and the fact Quick wasn’t in the game, etc.Hill can zing it.
I’m not sure what his major weaknesses are.
He just seems like a solid, cagey NFL pocket-QB to me.
Like a Carson Palmer.w
vNovember 21, 2014 at 1:02 pm #12287znModeratormuch better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game 1.
To be fair on that pass…that’s when he had the bad leg…the quad. There are references in JT, for example, to the fact that he made that pass on one leg. He couldn’t plant and use good form. He wound that one up to heave it.
The thing about Hill for me is the brain-arm synergy. He has a pretty quick release, some nice velocity, but it’s combined with very quick decisions. Like on the TD to Britt–on the replay, endzone view, you can see it. The INSTANT he sees Britt it’s load it and zing it.
November 21, 2014 at 6:51 pm #12322rflParticipantAgree with this thread in general.
These “little things” make a big difference–they comprise the difference between a capable, starter-quality QB and guys who do this and that but can’t put the package together.
Clemens gave us a lot of these intangibles. But he lacked the arm strength.
Davis has a somewhat better arm and can make more plays. But he lacks composure and continuity, and his success window is pretty narrow.
Hill gives you the whole package. Not at Pro Bowl level. But at a sufficient level of capability and on a wide enough range of skills that a defense cannot expect to simply shut him down. It makes a big difference to our offense.
And BTW, note the fact that several of these quotations came from vets … on defense! The whole team responds to capable QBing.
All of this makes me think of Sam. We all want to believe that a healthy Sam woulda been worth a few wins. And I think it’s true.
But it isn’t NECESSARILY because Sam is/could be a great QB. You don’t have to believe that he would be pushing Rogers for the Pro Bowl to believe that he would have made a big difference.
Whether or not one wants to see Sam as a franchise, top shelf QB–and many do not–he certainly WAS a solidly capable QB. He offered all of these “little things” and was a respectable threat. All of that makes a huge difference even if one denies that he could ever be a star.
Personally, I think he was a star. I just don’t trust his knees.
We need AT LEAST what Hill offers next year. Not sure how we’ll get it.
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November 22, 2014 at 1:08 am #12326Eternal RamnationParticipantEternal Ramnation wrote:
much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game 1.To be fair on that pass…that’s when he had the bad leg…the quad. There are references in JT, for example, to the fact that he made that pass on one leg. He couldn’t plant and use good form. He wound that one up to heave it.
The thing about Hill for me is the brain-arm synergy. He has a pretty quick release, some nice velocity, but it’s combined with very quick decisions. Like on the TD to Britt–on the replay, endzone view, you can see it. The INSTANT he sees Britt it’s load it and zing it.
Yeah it wasn’t meant as a rip on Hill it was just the one that stuck in my mind. When I went back and looked at the vikes game there were nice throws in that game but still he looked quicker to me last week.
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