is Gurley similar to any former Rams RBs?

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  • #23878
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    Rams have had some good ballcarriers
    over the years. Anybody think Gurley
    is similar to any former Rams?
    Can he be in the pantheon
    with Faulk and Dickerson ?

    Marshall Faulk,
    Eric Dickerson,
    Jerome Bettis,
    Lawrence McCutcheon,
    Wendell Tyler,
    Willie Ellison,
    Les Josephson
    Elvis Peacock

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    #23879
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    Steven Jackson good. imo

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    #23880
    JackPMiller
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    Where is Greg Bell, Robert Delpino, Cullen Bryant, Tank Younger, “Deacon” Dan Towler, Ollie Matson, Barry Redden, and Mike Guman?

    #23881
    PA Ram
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    I’ve only seen highlights but he runs a bit upright like Dickerson, but seems a bit more shifty. Dickerson was more straight ahead, find the opening—gone. Gurley is moving forward but he seems a bit more athletic in a way.

    But ED is not a bad comparison.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #23884
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    I’ve only seen highlights but he runs a bit upright like Dickerson, but seems a bit more shifty. Dickerson was more straight ahead, find the opening—gone. Gurley is moving forward but he seems a bit more athletic in a way.

    But ED is not a bad comparison.

    Well, I’m still watchin utubes, trying to figure out
    who he compares to. Who he looks like.

    I dunno…Ive watched four of his utubes and
    I am not sure what they have in Gurley.
    He is fast — but he gets caught from behind.

    Its not like he’s ‘blazing’ fast.
    He dont seem all that ‘shifty’ like say, a Faulk or Barry Sanders.
    A lot of his big runs were just good blocking — he just
    burst through gaping holes.

    He does seem hard to bring down. He bounces off of
    people — though he aint as big as a Steven Jackson.

    He’s got good balance.

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    #23888
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    Thurman Thomas, maybe?

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    #23889
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    Thurman Thomas, maybe?

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    He has more power than Thomas did, though.

    #23890
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    Thurman Thomas, maybe?

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    He has more power than Thomas did, though.

    OJ ?

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    #23892
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    Thurman Thomas, maybe?

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    He has more power than Thomas did, though.

    OJ ?

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    I was thinking more of a cross between Chris Ogbonnaya and Justin Watson.

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    #23896
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    does he get caught from behind? gurley that is.

    i read somewhere that he beat chris conley in a 40 yard dash. conley ran a 4.35 at this combine. no idea what it is post surgery.

    as far as style he reminds me of edgerrin james. similar body type. edgerrin was a little smaller. but yeah. watching the both of them run. very similar. that comparison came from a charlie casserly interview on nfl network.

    in the post-draft interview i think he said that he admires cj spiller. don’t know if he tries to emulate him.

    #23921
    Mackeyser
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    He was caught from behind as a Sophomore, but he was battling an ankle.

    As a Freshman? No.

    Now? Not likely.

    Actually, AP is a very good description for when he’s right. Strong enough to truck people and fast enough to run right by people…IN TRAFFIC.

    It’s just amazing to me to watch a DB or LB set up the angle and think they’ve got him and because of his speed, the defender just ends up chasing him.

    Just. Like. AP.

    Plus, he’s very good at catching the ball and I LOVE that he understands that the FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS is learning Pass Pro.

    This guy is going to be a super star in this league…

    I know I’m banging the table hard for this guy, but I can’t help it…

    He’s almost like Suh in this regard. The more tape I watch… the more I like about this kid…which if anyone knows me is unusual. It’s normally the other way around.

    And don’t get me started about this kid’s stiff arm…

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    #23922
    PA Ram
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    Bucky Brooks compares him to Marshawn Lynch.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap3000000462171/Pro-Comparison-Todd-Gurley

    Walter Football says: Marshawn Lynch

    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015tgurley.php

    Player Comparison: Marshawn Lynch. In terms of Gurley’s running style, the closest comparison is Lynch. Both have power and speed, and are difference-makers who can carry an offense. I think Gurley is faster while Lynch may have a bit more power to him. Lynch was the 12th-overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, and Gurley could go in the same general area this year.
    Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015tgurley.php#yJGXO6lY4g7psZFe.99

    NFL.Com says: Marshawn Lynch

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/todd-gurley?id=2552475

    NFL COMPARISON Marshawn Lynch

    CBS Sports says: Marshawn Lynch

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2000877/todd-gurley

    COMPARES TO: Marshawn Lynch, Seahawks — Like Lynch, Gurley is best known for simply bowling over defenders, but each back’s success is also a testament to good vision, surprisingly light feet and balance to bounce off would-be tacklers.

    Bleacher Report says: Adrian Peterson

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2370661-todd-gurley-latest-news-rumors-and-speculation-on-rbs-nfl-draft-stock

    (Scroll to bottom for video)

    SI says: Adrian Peterson

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/30/st-louis-rams-select-Todd-Gurley-2015-nfl-draft

    Player comparison: Adrian Peterson​

    That seems to be the sentiment. Lynch and Peterson.

    That’s not too shabby.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #23924
    PA Ram
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    Hmmm. Interesting.

    From Gurley’s AMA on reddit:

    Hey Todd, in which city would you most like to live in if you had the choice?
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    [–]Todd_GurleyII 412 points 1 day ago
    LA … no team there, though.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/34f0qh/hi_i_am_todd_gurley_ii_former_georgia_bulldog_at/

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #23925
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    He was caught from behind as a Sophomore, but he was battling an ankle.

    As a Freshman? No.

    Now? Not likely.

    Actually, AP is a very good description for when he’s right. Strong enough to truck people and fast enough to run right by people…IN TRAFFIC.

    It’s just amazing to me to watch a DB or LB set up the angle and think they’ve got him and because of his speed, the defender just ends up chasing him.

    Just. Like. AP.

    Plus, he’s very good at catching the ball and I LOVE that he understands that the FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS is learning Pass Pro.

    This guy is going to be a super star in this league…

    I know I’m banging the table hard for this guy, but I can’t help it…

    He’s almost like Suh in this regard. The more tape I watch… the more I like about this kid…which if anyone knows me is unusual. It’s normally the other way around.

    And don’t get me started about this kid’s stiff arm…

    go on, mack. go on. i love reading this stuff.

    i agree about the receiving skills. i think that will be a significant part of the rams offense. a nice outlet for foles to go to.

    #23929
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    really. everyone watch the waldman piece on gurley. great stuff.

    it’s soothing.

    #24276
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    i think a healthy gurley could potentially be the most complete back under a fisher coached team.

    eddie george had the power. but he didn’t have the explosion.

    chris johnson had the explosion. but he didn’t have the strength that george possessed.

    steven jackson had power and explosion, but by the time fisher came, he was a shell of his former self.

    i believe gurley will eventually have both those traits. maybe less power than eddie or steven. and less explosion than johnson. but he’ll have a good mix of the too. plus he can catch the ball, and he seems to have the requisite attitude to become a good blocker. eventually.

    of course if his knee never heals, this will all be moot.

    i also read about how some people feel he should be the workhorse. i don’t agree. i think he will be most effective with 250 carries. add in 40-50 receptions. and i think you get maximum effectiveness out of him. meaning you’ll get the most amount of explosive plays off him without subjecting him to unnecessary wear and tear. any more carries and i believe you get diminishing returns. mason should get the other 150 carries. and he should be effective. also giving the rams explosive plays. those two combined will be more effective than gurley handling the workload by himself.

    #24286
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    really. everyone watch the waldman piece on gurley. great stuff.

    it’s soothing.

    Yeah that’s good.

    #24290
    bnw
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    Rams have had some good ballcarriers
    over the years. Anybody think Gurley
    is similar to any former Rams?

    Yes, currently he is similar to the banged up wrecked versions of many former Rams RBs. That is all that can be inferred at this time.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24291
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    Yes, currently he is similar to the banged up wrecked versions of many former Rams RBs. That is all that can be inferred at this time.

    Well this one is a judgement call and open to different views. I mean Peterson missed time with a knee, and Gore missed time with fractured hip. They came back and my bet is Gurley does too. Given that, who do I think he will be like? All the comparisons above work for me, except he also has a couple of things that are unique to him I think.

    #24292
    bnw
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    Yes, currently he is similar to the banged up wrecked versions of many former Rams RBs. That is all that can be inferred at this time.

    Well this one is a judgement call and open to different views. I mean Peterson missed time with a knee, and Gore missed time with fractured hip. They came back and my bet is Gurley does too. Given that, who do I think he will be like? All the comparisons above work for me, except he also has a couple of things that are unique to him I think.

    Banged up RB relying upon a questionable at best O-line. I’m not much excited about it. Some posts said he is getting caught from behind? What were his great attributes as a RB that gets the one in a decade spiel I’ve heard? Not as good as Bo Jackson, AP, Barry Sanders. Not as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable. Don’t forget he was playing on a great college team that steamrolled opponents. That isn’t this Rams team in the NFL. Then there’s the lets limit his play since he isn’t seen as durable enough to carry the load at RB so platoon him substantially with Mason and perhaps Cunningham too? I guess I need the Rolaids more than everyone else here although I don’t know why.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24293
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    Not as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable.

    Oh I see the case, absolutely. We just differ on that.

    #24294
    bnw
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    Not as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable.

    Oh I see the case, absolutely. We just differ on that.

    Do you mean Fisher building the Rams into defensive oriented team with a sustained ball control offense? Seahawks-ish? I don’t see it. No Lynch. No Wilson. Crappy O-line, check!

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24298
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    i don’t think he is as strong as lynch, but i would guess he has better short area quickness. i also believe he has better explosion than him. and while he is not as elusive as faulk. my guess is he has better power than him.

    the one thing we don’t know is how that knee is going to heal. the doctors inspected it closely and came away encouraged. but. who knows? maybe it snaps next season, and he’s back on the table and under the knife again…

    look. i don’t think he’ll ever be as good as faulk. that man’s talent was transcendent. as is peterson’s. those are special special athletes.

    but do i think he can be as good as lynch or gore or jackson? yeah. i think those are realistic expectations. is that worth the number 10 pick? in this draft, i think it was. in other drafts. maybe not.

    #24299
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    Not as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable.

    Oh I see the case, absolutely. We just differ on that.

    Do you mean Fisher building the Rams into defensive oriented team with a sustained ball control offense? Seahawks-ish? I don’t see it. No Lynch. No Wilson. Crappy O-line, check!

    Well no what I meant was I see Gurley’s qualities as a back.

    But I personally don’t think Fisher is making this a Seattle style offense anyway. I think it will be the same balanced offense it has always been.

    And Seattle has a crappy OL, but one without excuses because it is not young, and IMO the Rams in Gurley have IMO Lynch’s equal as a quality back.

    The difference is, the Rams have been, are and will be more of a passing team than Seattle has been. IMO they will be a balanced team along the lines of Baltimore.

    And of course…they ain’t done any of that yet, so….

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    #24302
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    Please pardon my blasphemy but Gurley has Faulk’s micro gears he is definitely a freakish athlete and incredibly strong and he is very smart smarter than A.P. or Eddie George or E.D. for that matter. He is special and though you can see bits and pieces of all kinds of rbs in his game he is a unique talent

    #24343
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    well that’s the one thing we don’t know about. is gurley’s intelligence. that was one thing that stood out about faulk outside of his athletic talent. and while gurley may not possess the elite speed of peterson it may be what’s inside his head that could give him an edge.

    how fast can gurley process information. his field vision. as well as his dedication to film study and learning the playbook.

    wow. i’m really excited guys. it’s gonna be fun watching this young man grow each game.

    #24528
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    Please pardon my blasphemy but Gurley has Faulk’s micro gears

    I saw the same thing. Good combination of vision, anticipation, ability to react to the 2nd guy coming, not just the guy in front of him.

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    #24539
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    Please pardon my blasphemy but Gurley has Faulk’s micro gears

    I saw the same thing. Good combination of vision, anticipation, ability to react to the 2nd guy coming, not just the guy in front of him.

    Yunz two are crazy.

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    #24541
    bnw
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    Rose colored glasses around here. ACL is a big problem. What are the odds that his knee will be as good as before the injury?

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #24544
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    Rose colored glasses around here. ACL is a big problem. What are the odds that his knee will be as good as before the injury?

    It happens.

    It’s not this rare, Adrian Peterson or Frank Gore only kind of thing.

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