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  • June 18, 2021 at 1:33 pm #130529
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    Lions GM Brad Holmes sees Jared Goff taking his leadership to a new level in Detroit
    Jared Goff is doing things Brad Holmes never saw in LA.

    It’s no secret that Detroit Lions quarterback Jared Goff has a newfound sense of belonging after being traded from the Los Angeles Rams earlier this offseason. A few times already, he’s noted how his new situation “is where I’m supposed to be” or that the coaching staff has empowered him.

    But Goff, himself, is also making a positive impression on the Lions—even to the ones who are already familiar with him. Lions general manager Brad Holmes, who had a big part in the Rams drafting him back in 2017, told the Detroit Free Press that he sees a sense of leadership that he never noticed in Los Angeles.

    “I’ve seen things from him that I had not seen from him in L.A., just from a personality standpoint, from a leadership standpoint,” Holmes said. “And everybody leads in their own ways.”

    Specifically, Holmes noted that when the trade first went down, Goff sought out the phone numbers for every single offensive player on the roster. Not long after, he had already held several off-campus workouts with teammates, seeking to gain chemistry with them both on and off the field.

    “He aggressively was like, ‘I need to call this guy, call this guy. I need to get all these guys’ (numbers),’” Holmes recalled. “When we brought him up for his first physical after (the trade), that eagerness and that aggressiveness to really even grab that moment was like, ‘Wow, even I hadn’t seen that.’”

    Holmes did admit that as the director of college scouting in Los Angeles, he didn’t have as intimate a relationship with Goff as he does now as the GM in Detroit, and that could have something to do with these newfound leadership qualities. But the more he speaks about Goff, the clearer it is Holmes believes he can return to his high level of 2017 and 2018 play, which resulted in two Pro Bowl seasons and a Super Bowl appearance.

    “I never viewed (Goff) as a bridge option,” Holmes told DetroitLions.com recently. “He’s been a winning quarterback. His resume speaks for itself. Since he’s been a full-time starter he’s not been to the playoffs (just) one time.”

    June 23, 2021 at 9:46 am #130587
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    from https://sports.yahoo.com/2021-nfl-preview-lions-finally-move-on-from-matt-patricia-hope-that-dan-campbell-is-better-120037512.html

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    The Lions’ offseason can’t be viewed simply by what they added or lost. New GM Brad Holmes wanted to get a rebuild started, and the moves he made were about the future. The Lions traded quarterback Matthew Stafford to the Rams for quarterback Jared Goff, first-round draft picks in 2022 and 2023 and a third-round selection this year. It was a downgrade at quarterback, but Goff is a reasonable starter and Detroit got a lot of draft ammunition for the future. It was a smart move for a rebuilding team. Letting receiver Kenny Golladay walk without a sign-and-trade with the franchise tag was curious, but the Lions will get a good compensatory draft pick. They added vets like running back Jamaal Williams, and receivers Tyrell Williams and Breshad Perriman on low-cost deals. Detroit had a solid draft, with offensive tackle Penei Sewell in the first round, a couple defensive tackles and then a pair of intriguing prospects in defensive back Ifeatu Melifonwu and receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown in the middle rounds. It wasn’t a banner offseason, but a necessary one to start over.

    July 5, 2021 at 10:35 pm #130759
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    July 7, 2021 at 10:01 am #130777
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    from https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/07/anthony-lynn-its-been-an-absolute-pleasure-to-work-with-jared-goff/

    Since he was traded from Los Angeles to Detroit, Jared Goff has said he feels “empowered” to help craft the offense around what he feels he’s best at. During an appearance on the Compas on the Beat podcast this week, Lions offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn told Gilbert Manzano and Fernando Ramirez how much he’s enjoyed Goff.

    “It’s been an absolute pleasure to work with Jared,” Lynn said. “Just giving him some input and watching him grow as a leader on our football team, that’s been really cool to see. But he’s had some really good practices and hopefully that carries over to training camp and the regular season. But I’m very pleased with what I’ve seen so far.”

    July 7, 2021 at 8:28 pm #130782
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    July 28, 2021 at 8:37 am #131160
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    from https://lionswire.usatoday.com/lists/lions-training-camp-what-to-watch-for-dan-campbell-detroit-camp-battles/

    As the quarterback taking over for Matthew Stafford, Goff has very big shoes to fill. Goff is a different kind of personality both on and off the field from Stafford, and many on the roster are used to No. 9 being in command. So far Goff has handled the transition gracefully, but his style and presence will be tested in the adverse moments that inevitably pop up in practices.

    July 28, 2021 at 9:46 am #131163
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    September 9, 2021 at 1:27 am #132044
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    September 9, 2021 at 10:33 am #132047
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    Google is constantly placing Lions/Goff articles in front of me.

    Last I was reading, he’s not really impressing people in camp. I hope he gets it together, but he has some tough seasons ahead of him.

    September 9, 2021 at 12:04 pm #132048
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    I wish Goff well.

    Personally, I still think the Rams gave up way too much for Stafford, though I think he’s a better QB than Goff. Better arm talent, especially. Has shown some surreal toughness throughout his career, too.

    It’s kinda like this:

    I really like cheeseburgers, if they’re lean, grass-fed, high-quality, etc. But I love a good steak and lobster dinner. I’m just not going to trade you my cheeseburger and my house for your steak and lobster dinner. I’m good with eating my modest cheeseburger in my modest house, thank you very much. I think I can “win” with that combo too.

    September 10, 2021 at 12:31 am #132061
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    Goff has big shoes to fill???? Whose shoes exactly???

    Stafford better fill Goff’s shoes….

    September 15, 2021 at 11:23 am #132199
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    September 20, 2021 at 8:52 pm #132364
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    September 20, 2021 at 9:11 pm #132365
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    September 20, 2021 at 9:13 pm #132366
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    September 20, 2021 at 10:41 pm #132367
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    Jared Goff on full display.

    Making great throws, making wtf throws, dropping the ball, forgetting to watch the game clock. It’s all here, the good and bad.

    You know, Rodgers presence of mind to hurry the snap in order to get a free play on 3rd down contrasts with Goff letting the clock run out on him TWICE in the same game, in the 6th year of his career.

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    September 20, 2021 at 11:21 pm #132370
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    Zooey wrote:

    Jared Goff on full display.

    Making great throws, making wtf throws, dropping the ball, forgetting to watch the game clock. It’s all here, the good and bad.

    You know, Rodgers presence of mind to hurry the snap in order to get a free play on 3rd down contrasts with Goff letting the clock run out on him TWICE in the same game, in the 6th year of his career.

    All true.

    I still like his wow did you see that throws he makes at times though.

    September 21, 2021 at 10:44 am #132374
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    Zooey wrote:

    Jared Goff on full display.

    Making great throws, making wtf throws, dropping the ball, forgetting to watch the game clock. It’s all here, the good and bad.

    You know, Rodgers presence of mind to hurry the snap in order to get a free play on 3rd down contrasts with Goff letting the clock run out on him TWICE in the same game, in the 6th year of his career.

    For me, Goff may be the most frustrating player the Rams ever had.

    So good in so many ways, so not so good in so many ways…

    He almost but not quite but kinda sorta but not really gets it.

    September 21, 2021 at 12:59 pm #132376
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    nittany ram wrote:

    For me, Goff may be the most frustrating player the Rams ever had.

    So good in so many ways, so not so good in so many ways…

    He almost but not quite but kinda sorta but not really gets it.

    I just…ya know…I just see him screw up basic clock management again and again…and I – unfairly, or not – just think about how the dude did not know where the sun sets, as an adult, after spending 4 years at UC Berkeley.

    There is something “not there” with that guy. He has his head in the clouds sometimes.

    He has the physical ability. We saw throws last night that we didn’t see him make all last year, but had seen previously. I saw somewhere that Stafford has already equaled Goff’s yearlong total from last season of TD passes 15+ yards.

    He can throw the ball. But he lost his confidence with the Rams, probably because McVay lost patience with his brainlessness, and trashed him, instead of patiently nurturing him. McVay may just be too smart for his own good. His ability to recognize patterns on the field is off the charts. It comes easily to him, and he has to learn how to communicate with people for whom it doesn’t come easily. Speaking as a genius myself, I understand the pain. {emoji of something}.

    September 21, 2021 at 2:13 pm #132377
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    in fairness to Goff:

    He’s not the only guy to fumble a snap in the rain.

    He’s not the only QB to lose in Green Bay, Matthew Stafford is 6 games under .500 vs Green Bay.

    Goff led the Lions in rushing yards with 46 yesterday.

    Lions have allowed 76 points in 2 weeks.

    He posted a passer rating of 97 yesterday.

    The sun doesn’t set nor does it rise… the earth spins a rotates around the sun…..as he correctly stated on Hard Knocks….

    September 21, 2021 at 3:59 pm #132379
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    Zooey wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    For me, Goff may be the most frustrating player the Rams ever had.

    So good in so many ways, so not so good in so many ways…

    He almost but not quite but kinda sorta but not really gets it.

    I just…ya know…I just see him screw up basic clock management again and again…and I – unfairly, or not – just think about how the dude did not know where the sun sets, as an adult, after spending 4 years at UC Berkeley.

    There is something “not there” with that guy. He has his head in the clouds sometimes.

    He has the physical ability. We saw throws last night that we didn’t see him make all last year, but had seen previously. I saw somewhere that Stafford has already equaled Goff’s yearlong total from last season of TD passes 15+ yards.

    He can throw the ball. But he lost his confidence with the Rams, probably because McVay lost patience with his brainlessness, and trashed him, instead of patiently nurturing him. McVay may just be too smart for his own good. His ability to recognize patterns on the field is off the charts. It comes easily to him, and he has to learn how to communicate with people for whom it doesn’t come easily. Speaking as a genius myself, I understand the pain. {emoji of something}.

    Maybe Stafford can go all ‘Beautiful Mind’ with McVay and see the patterns unfold while dodging DEs, but I think too much is made of that. You don’t have to be a ‘rocket surgeon’ to excel at QB in the NFL. Marino and Montana were dolts but they are among the best QBs of all time. I don’t know what Goff’s issue is, but I don’t think it’s about intelligence or lack thereof.

    September 21, 2021 at 4:19 pm #132380
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Maybe Stafford can go all ‘Beautiful Mind’ with McVay and see the patterns unfold while dodging DEs, but I think too much is made of that. You don’t have to be a ‘rocket surgeon’ to excel at QB in the NFL. Marino and Montana were dolts but they are among the best QBs of all time. I don’t know what Goff’s issue is, but I don’t think it’s about intelligence or lack thereof.

    I’m not really talking about intelligence. I’m talking about ‘presence.’ I agree about Montana, and even made a comparison between Goff and Montana during that rookie year. Football smarts is different from intelligence. I don’t recall Goff’s Wonderlic score. I’m not really talking about that.

    He’s not…’present’ all the time. He has less awareness of his environment than average, I think. “Head in the clouds.” I don’t know how else to put it. That’s not intelligence, exactly.

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