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  • #4686
    GreatRamNTheSky
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    Grits

    #4687
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    rambill from off the net: It wasn’t that the knee was hit….the guy hit him up high and it caused an awkward downward pressure on his leg…it may have been hyperextended slightly.

    #4692
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    rambill from off the net: It wasn’t that the knee was hit….the guy hit him up high and it caused an awkward downward pressure on his leg…it may have been hyperextended slightly.

    Bummer is that’s the way it was in Carolina too.

    #4693
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    Bummer is that’s the way it was in Carolina too.

    No I think this was different…he was clearly bad hurt in Carolina, I didn’t get that sense this time

    Anyway, this from off the net, fwiw



    Str8 Rammin

    im an athletic therapist and if that were a total ligament rupture, especially an acl it would have had to happen from a force coming from the posterior of the knee to the anterior. But the force of impact came from the front to the back. It may be just a hyperextension but i wouldn’t rule out a possible mcl strain and or partial meniscus tear

    #4695
    PA Ram
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    Holy crap!

    Just getting ready to watch the game and it looks like the Rams got clobbered with injuries tonight.

    They can’t afford that.

    If Johnson is done that really hurts.

    If Bradford can’t stay healthy we are in big trouble. If he can’t play this year because of injuries the Rams will seriously have to look at moving on. I didn’t want to worry about QB this year. Now I do.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #4701
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    morris1

    According to NFL Channel Sam has had an initial MRI and it did not show anything – will have another tomorrow. But previous player on NFL Channel stated that Bradford may have simply torn scare tissue which often occurs after major surgery. Tearing scare tissue can be quite painful, but also temporary.

    #4707
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    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1
    Brian Quick on Bradford’s injury: “I was a little nervous about it but everything is all right. Sam told me that he is OK.”

    #4709
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    gulp.

    #4710
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    Nick Wagoner @nwagoner

    Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”

    #4715
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    Nick Wagoner @nwagoner

    Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”

    Jim Thomas (@jthom1)

    FIsher on Bradford’s knee injury: “I’m very optimistic for his quick return.”

    #4723
    Mackeyser
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    I think the term, “china doll” is overtly provocative. Not trying to say how you should post or anything, but at best it’s an inarticulate way of speaking to Bradford’s injury concerns and at worst, it’s trying to start a fight.

    I think as fans it’s all too easy to forget and see them solely as just pixels on the screen to us and glowing phosphors before that…unless we caught a game live, but even still, we weren’t on the field.

    Most of have never and will never know what even ONE hit from an NFL defensive lineman feels like let alone the repetitive pounding one takes as an NFL QB.

    Between the intricacies of joint mechanics, the fact that the joint in question was just repaired and may not have been fully stabilized and he took a knee to knee hit AND had a 300+ Defensive Tackle trying to drag him down putting his full weight solely on that knee… well, frankly we’re lucky the knee held up as well as it did.

    Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others. And whether it’s Chaos Theory, bad karma, a jinx, the baby Jesus or something else at work, I think it’s pretty safe to say that it’s NOT that Sam Bradford is brittle and breaks easily.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #4724
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    Glad to hear about the scar tissue. I have some experience with adhesions resulting from hyperextension and it is very scary
    at first but goes away fairly quickly. Bradford’s going to need better pass protection than last night and hopefully better durability out of Saffold and Long(Jake)

    #4728
    sdram
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    Hopeful that it was just a hyper extension scare or scar tissue tear.

    I had a hyperextended knee once – 20 years ago or so. I was playing wiffle ball at the beach one handed with a beer in the other. I went down rounding first base because we were playing on an uneven pasture lot. But, as the beer gods are my witness not one drop of beer was spilled. It hurt so bad I was seeing stars for a while. Some of the worst pain I’ve ever encountered. Almost as bad as the Rams loss to the Pats. Luckily, I didn’t have to line up under center 40 seconds later and was able to go home and limp around for a couple of days before the pain stopped completely.

    #4729
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    sorry, mack. i gotta go with grits on this. bradford is not proving to be a durable guy. maybe his ligaments are just not that durable. i’m beginning to think it’s just a matter of when not if his next big injury comes.

    hope i’m wrong.

    #4730
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    I’m just glad they signed Hill. I think they can
    win with Hill.
    And i hope they keep drafting QBs.

    I dont know if Bradford is a china-doll,
    but he dont seem to be an Iron-man either.

    So if Trumaine Johnson is done, what
    does the starting Secondary look like?

    w
    v

    #4731
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    i think the best they can do is keep drafting qbs. well. i guess that’d be true regardless.

    at this point what can you do anyway? bradford is clearly a talented quarterback. he was throwing some lasers out there. and the rams don’t have a clear cut plan for another starting qb at this point. a heavy run based offense is necessary i think. to limit the exposure to sam for more hits.

    trumaine johnson injury is more scary at this point. does joyner become the other starting cb if johnson is out?

    #4733
    PA Ram
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    Some guys do–for whatever reason–seem to get more injured than others. I’m looking at you Rodger Saffold. If Amendola were here I’d be looking at him too. Some bodies just don’t hold up well. It’s nothing personal–it’s just the way it is. Some guys can walk through trains and it doesn’t matter. Other guys can’t tie their shoes without pulling a shoulder out of joint.

    Bradford doesn’t have a great history.

    Hopefully he dodged a bullet this time. But I am concerned about it.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #4736
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    sorry, mack. i gotta go with grits on this. bradford is not proving to be a durable guy. maybe his ligaments are just not that durable. i’m beginning to think it’s just a matter of when not if his next big injury comes.

    hope i’m wrong.

    Mack’s point, though, is not the substance of what got said but the way it was said.

    Mack, the way I read him, was agreeing that some guys do get hurt more: Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others.

    So he agreed about the durability issue. From reading Mack I gather it’s an open question about Bradford’s durability. On saying he’s injury prone? Or not durable? That could be true of Bradford or not, though certainly one way to take yesterday is that it’s starting to add up with him. Mack only had some qualms about HOW it was said.

    #4738
    GreatRamNTheSky
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    WV, your glad they signed Hill? I thought Austin Davis was far more impressive than Hill and showed a better command of the offense and the ability to move the team down field. Most of the team’s points were scored with Davis QB.

    Grits

    #4743
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    I just keep adding different views to this discussion.

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    Mark Harper

    For those who didn’t listen to Savard and Farr last night . Towards the end of the game they were speaking with someone and said that very common post acl to take a minimal hit or push off oddly and break up scar tissue. He described that feeling as extremely painful but after a day or so can be beneficial to the knee long term. He said that the slight hyper extension of Sam’s knee looked at first glance that it may be a scar tissue issue . Sorry I missed who thy were speaking to ( may have been sideline reporter Will Witherspoon)

    #4744
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others. And whether it’s Chaos Theory, bad karma, a jinx, the baby Jesus or something else at work, I think it’s pretty safe to say that it’s NOT that Sam Bradford is brittle and breaks easily.

    well i’m not sure what this means then. or is it that using the words “brittle” and “breaks easily” is inflammatory?

    #4745
    21Dog
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    I think the term, “china doll” is overtly provocative. Not trying to say how you should post or anything, but at best it’s an inarticulate way of speaking to Bradford’s injury concerns and at worst, it’s trying to start a fight.

    I think as fans it’s all too easy to forget and see them solely as just pixels on the screen to us and glowing phosphors before that…unless we caught a game live, but even still, we weren’t on the field.

    Most of have never and will never know what even ONE hit from an NFL defensive lineman feels like let alone the repetitive pounding one takes as an NFL QB.

    Between the intricacies of joint mechanics, the fact that the joint in question was just repaired and may not have been fully stabilized and he took a knee to knee hit AND had a 300+ Defensive Tackle trying to drag him down putting his full weight solely on that knee… well, frankly we’re lucky the knee held up as well as it did.

    Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others. And whether it’s Chaos Theory, bad karma, a jinx, the baby Jesus or something else at work, I think it’s pretty safe to say that it’s NOT that Sam Bradford is brittle and breaks easily.

    OK….how about injury prone?

    #4747
    Hram
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    So if Trumaine Johnson is done, what
    does the starting Secondary look like?

    w
    v

    Young. Scary young.

    #4748
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    well i’m not sure what this means then. or is it that using the words “brittle” and “breaks easily” is inflammatory?

    Mack said this: I think the term, “china doll” is overtly provocative.

    I took that as meaning it’s not the issue, it’s how it’s put.

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