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  • #6604
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    Toss in 1 or 2 if you want. Something you read that offers a different perspective or has some info that’s new or just notices some things or puts it all well. We know what WE are saying…what else is there?

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    XXXIVwin

    I did a speed-through re-watch of the first 3 quarters ….the game was not quite as bad as it felt, afterward. Or, at least the game up until Patterson’s wild run was pretty watchable– Rams and Vikes played essentially toe-to-toe, the game looked bascially dead even up until then.

    Rams D (up until Patterson’s TD) was doing a respectable job. Pass rush consistently had a ton of pressure– we might do better against teams who rely more on the passing game and don’t have a freak of a running back in AP (man, is he good)

    Vikes had 2 excellent plays at end of first half which opened it up: Hill made a poor decision, but the Viking DB made a hell of a play to keep his feet in on the INT. And the TD toss to Jennings– Gaines bit on the play-action fake to AP (understandable) and then Cassel made a nice throw and Jennings made a nice grab.

    To my eye, Hill played pretty well in the first half– made some nice throws, the O-line let him down at times, and he had the one awful mistake. Otherwise, the Ram O looked like it was going to break through sooner or later– if not for self-inflicted dumb penalties and mistakes.

    My point is– For 3 quarters, the Rams were in it. They fell apart after the Patterson run.

    In my opinion this loss is NOT on the same apocalyptic level as the opening Day disaster in Philly a few years back. That Philly loss was a “season’s over” loss. This one might be a disaster…. but 2 wins against crappy teams in the Bucs and Pokes might help get things back on track….

    I’ve lost my optimism for the season, but on the other hand I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel yet….

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    #6781
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    Big Amoco Sign

    Fisher was blown out 59-0 once and came back and won 30-13…the next game after.

    I guess we should calm down a little.

    In 2009, Fisher was blown out by the Patriots 59-0. The Titans started 0-6 with that loss capping it off. Then they won 7 of their next 8 games. With Kerry Collins I might add

    Fisher can get a team back on track.

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    alyoshamucci

    I start with the good stuff on here, regardless of how ugly the games were, and in general I have a optimistic POV. It’s my nature, understanding psychology, to lean into the positive, life is hard enough as it is, and life as a Rams fan is . . well . . ugly sometimes.

    First thing I want to say before getting started is that until the INT and subsequent TD at the end of the half, we seemed to be playing the game we wanted to play. there were some errors and some penalties . . but we were moving the ball and shutting AP down. After the pick and the entrance of A Davis, we were done. Team was deflated after losing hill. We played good football in the first half. So did they. Hill made a terrible decision that put us in a hole. But the overall play didn’t go down until Davis got under center.

    Also, I did not watch the fourth quarter, I had important laundry refolding to do.

    The Good

    1) The young DBs. Gaines!!! What a great job, a professional job, by a 6th round draft pick. I saw someone bust on him for the TD catch by multi-pro bowler Greg Jennings on a perfect throw in the back of the end zone . . I don’t get that. He did an amazing job all game, 2 passes defended and plenty of solid tackles. Joyner showed up with his tackling also. Jenks was playing really well in coverage (the tennis balls in practice seemed to have helped his grab issues), and has shown up better as a tackler also. Across the board, the part of our team I thought would be weakest was really strong.

    2) Brian Quick. “Reliable and consistent” was not ever something I expected to be addressing him with. He was open, and aggressive. Im considering picking him up in fantasy ball.

    3) Quinn forced how many penalties?

    4) TJ and Mcleod were playing with fury. I love seeing that. You’re going to miss some tackles on AP, that doesn’t bother me.

    5) Langford was really stout. And overall our run defense gave me a lot of hope. Gadget WR sweeps are not basic run defense.

    6) Tree was all over the place.

    7) It can really only get better from here.

    The Bad

    8) Refs. I should not have to list this. It’s dumb. The roughing the passer penalty? The offsides? The spot on the Quick catch?

    9) Jeff Fisher not challenging the Quinn hit that was called an incomplete pass. Quinn hits people so hard that the ball goes forward when the palm is empty. That should have been a TO. Jeff needs to know that every time Quinn makes contact the ball is coming out.

    10) Tavon in the backfield. Zac Stacy needs to get in rhythm with the O line, and he’s messing around? Once is fine, don’t do it 6 times.

    11) Bailey being suspended.

    The Ugly

    12) Interior pass blocking. What. the. he!!. Saffold and Wells and Joseph got eaten alive by Linval Joseph and Shariff Floyd. Are they that good? I don’t think so. They looked like they expected an easy game.

    13) Shaun Hill’s INT. You DO NOT throw that ball.

    14) Austin Davis.

    15) Tavon’s 2 bobbled punts.

    16) The scoreboard.

    17) The body language of the team. Unacceptable.

    #6804
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    Just a message to Dak. I thought your posts in this thread would get kind of lost and overlooked here, so I moved them to the big “game reaction” type thread:

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/shall-we-talk-draft/

    #6805
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    some more. I’m being very one-sided looks like. If you see things that fit your view better then post them…actually my ideal is that many people contribute posts to a thread like this, not just me

    jrry32

    I’m going to try and inject some optimism. The season isn’t over, the sky isn’t falling, and the Rams aren’t the worst team in football. Am I angry? Yes. I am angry that the team came out and played that poorly in week 1. That all said, there are 15 games left in the season. We were down to our 3rd string QB when the game went from 13-0 to 34-6.

    And frankly, the game very likely could have been 6-0 if our starting QB never got hurt(as he was injured on the play with the INT and I think that contributed to throw-away not reaching the sidelines). Hell, the game could have been 9-0 at half if the refs had called the holding or even 7-6 Rams if the refs hadn’t blown the call on the Cassel fumble when Quinn hit him from behind as the Rams likely have a scoop and score on that play.

    Regardless, things didn’t go our way and we lost…badly. But may I remind you…this isn’t the first time this happened. We lost to Dallas by 24 last year. We lost to San Francisco by 23 last year. And that was with Sam Bradford.

    Yes, we all thought we had the talent to beat Minnesota. We were all confident coming into the game. Maybe too confident. But there’s no reason to give up on the season quite so soon. If the team comes out in the next couple games and doesn’t look any better then I completely understand at that point. However, I think we’re a better team than we showed against Minnesota and we’ll come out and prove it. But we’re not the 49ers, Seahawks, etc. We don’t have the talent to compensate for losing our starting QB.

    We probably won’t be contending for the playoffs this year even with Shaun Hill. I hope we do but I don’t see it as likely. However, I do believe we can be competitive. I also believe that Hill wasn’t bad in the first half against the Vikings. I think the Rams as a whole can come out more focused and execute better. And when they do, you’ll see a competitive team.

    We’re all pissed about the loss but the anger, resentment, disappointment, etc. just isn’t contributing to anything. It just brings about more anger, resentment, disappointment, and misery.

    Cheer up, we have 15 games left to play, we have a lot of football to enjoy and this team still has plenty of time to right the ship. If we can get destroyed by 47 total points in back to back games last year and rebound to finish the year 6-6 with Kellen Clemens starting 9 of those games. We can sure as hell bounce back from this beating and do some damage with Shaun Hill.

    #6820
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    Speed Kills

    Stacy/Cunningham had 16 carries for 64 yards 4 avg

    Peterson 21 carries 75 yards 3.6 avg

    Corderelle Patterson 3 carries 102 yards and a 67 yard TD

    Tavon Austin/Givens 4 carries 9 yards 0 TD

    The Vikings did not stuff the Rams ground game… the narrative does not fit. The Rams had success on the ground and were forced to get away from that ground game once they got behind

    My eyes not only told me they ran the ball well when they tried…the stats supported it too

    I have game rewind man…. Some say the Vikings stuffed the Rams run game. My eyes didn’t see that when I finally watched. They got behind and had to get away from it, they were seeing stacked boxes (nothing new there) so wanted to throw against that with these weapons but when they did run they had success

    Now the game was a disaster….but we don’t need to pile on and make stuff up that didn’t happen. The. Rams messed up enough on their own

    To win in the NFL you need good players, good coaches, and a bit of good fortune

    10 years after the GSO the lack of good fortune has been as big a contributing factor to the Rams being disappointing as anything

    I’m not saying that Fishers has been great and he is not off limits but seriously the team cannot not catch a break

    Once again the Rams open up the season wanting to utilize some of these toys in the pass game but they can’t block anyone. Go back and look at Tavons touches vs Patterson’s. The Rams used Tavon very similarly. What was the difference IMO? Execution

    people are so quick to blame Shotty… like they did last year but don’t take into account that the Rams have to block on the edges (and they didn’t) and there are execution issues, just like last year (and when I say that some of it is Austin too).

    the Rams could and should get Tavon going vertical more often and on the outside. No one can run with him… so get him down the field. Though I don’t have an issue the Rams running Tavon up the middle … they just need to execute it better (and obviously won’t make a living at doing that)

    IMO what the Rams really have to do is get this oline playing better…and I know its early but what do you think of having them go back to a base of 21 and 12 personnel until the line develops some confidence? They can still play Austin out of that formation on the outside… they just need to be selective.

    I also think that the Bradford injury really hurt this team from a playing standpoint. Fisher pulled everyone in that third game after two series and didn’t play any of these guys in that 4th game. I think some of that showed up on Sunday.

    Hill’s INT. I have no problem with the Rams throwing there… none. Again it was the execution…. Hill needs to throw the ball away.

    There wasn’t that much pressure on that play… It was a bad decision/execution

    We have been begging this team to take more chances…. Not to be so conservative get the ball down the field.

    So now Hill throws an int and all of the sudden people like Wagnor have amnesia? They were down 6-0 to frickin Vikings… Not facing the Seahawks on the road.

    They wanted to try and get some points on the board and they certainly weren’t being overwhelmed at that point.

    I feel sorry for Chris… He has put in the work man….. He deserve better than this crap

    Just like Jackson they will use him up then he will just be done

    #6823
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    Speed Kills

    the Rams could and should get Tavon going vertical more often and on the outside. No one can run with him… so get him down the field. Though I don’t have an issue the Rams running Tavon up the middle … they just need to execute it better (and obviously won’t make a living at doing that)

    I DO have an issue with them running Tavon up the middle. I don’t know how they could think that would work. That would be a call I would make in Week 13 on a 3rd and 4 after doing nothing but using Tavon on pitch-outs and screen passes for the first 12 weeks.

    Well, Tavon did not have a good day, did he.

    #6824
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    Well, Tavon did not have a good day, did he.

    If you hate West Virginians so much
    maybe you should go live
    in North Korea.

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    #6827
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    Zooey wrote:
    Well, Tavon did not have a good day, did he.

    If you hate West Virginians so much
    maybe you should go live
    in North Korea.

    w
    v

    It is incumbent on all posters to read posts carefully before responding to them.

    Nowhere does Zooey say or imply that Tavon is North Korean.

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