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  • #14816
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    http://deadspin.com/leaked-internal-scouting-report-the-patriots-do-not-li-1574040417?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

    JL 8/22 -Vibe on this guy keeps getting worse. Support staff members are sick of him and ready for him to go. Described as a cocky, me-guy. Loves football, FBI is high as well. Everything has been pretty well-documented in online articles about the kid, but sources say he’s a spoiled brat (grandfather gives him allowance, father bought him luxury car). They say he was getting on people’s nerves during the ’12 season, but it went to another level after the ALUN game. Seems to enjoy putting himself in situations where he knows attention will follow him (TXUN frat party during summer). CONCERNS: Off-field behavior, cockiness, maturity

    JL 10/15 – Suspended first half of TXRI game for autograph scandal. Couple of TXTC sources say can’t yell/scream at him or he shuts down; has walked away from Kingsbury in the past. Has an avg. work ethic, came to 4 of 32 summer ’13 workouts, and quit going to in-season workouts late in ’12. Doesn’t study the game, said to know about 60% of the offense in ’12, never watches film; one source said only time he watched film during ’12 was before ALUN. Comes from ‘outlaw bloodlines’, mom moved the family to Kerrville to get away from father’s wild family. Father’s family is said to be very shady people, always into something, they are the root of Johnny’s personality. ‘What you see on TV and how he is portrayed, that’s him; but when you talk to him, you’ll like him’. Coaches love his tuffs/competes, they want to go to war with him, but ‘Johnny will be Johnny’ during the week. Knows how to scheme the system, arrogant and full of himself, but he’s not smug to coaches. Has been like this since Day 1, has never gone to class, goes to beat of own drum, but has ultimate confidence. Loves the spotlight, football is his release, big games don’t scare him. Has size 15 feet and freakishly big hands. Will drink, but no one I spoke with think he’s a smoker. Teammates don’t dislike him, but there’s some resentment, more so in the offseason when he isn’t coming to workouts and they are busting their butt. Loner, doesn’t hang out with the guys, but very close with WR Mike Evans. Already has money, is used to spotlight, has already been exposed to NFL-level fame. Will never take football seriously enough for our coaching staff, he’ll hate meetings, will have to drag him to work out, etc. The definition of the word maintenance. CONCERNS: Maturity, passion for preparation, high-maintenance, work ethic

    #14818
    PA Ram
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    I always felt he would be boom or bust.

    It’s looking like bust.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #14819
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    I always felt he would be boom or bust.

    It’s looking like bust.

    I thought of him as either bust or complete hilarious meltdown.

    So far he is holding at bust, but it’s not over yet.

    #14821
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    PA Ram wrote:
    I always felt he would be boom or bust.

    It’s looking like bust.

    I thought of him as either bust or complete hilarious meltdown.

    So far he is holding at bust, but it’s not over yet.

    I’d rather have Tebow.

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    #14822
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    I thought of him as either bust or complete hilarious meltdown.

    So far he is holding at bust, but it’s not over yet.

    I’d rather have Tebow.

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    I would rather have Tebow.

    Agamemnon

    #14823
    sdram
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    I thought I read this last spring before or around the draft? The NFL is the big boy league. It’s looking like Johnnie ain’t gonna get a chance unless he truly shows signs he’s growing on the inside.

    #14826
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    I thought I read this last spring before or around the draft? The NFL is the big boy league. It’s looking like Johnnie ain’t gonna get a chance unless he truly shows signs he’s growing on the inside.

    Yeah, but who would you pick
    in a celebrity, reality-show, steel cage match:
    Tebow or Manziel ?

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    #14833
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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12087118/johnny-manziel-party-led-cleveland-browns-punishment-josh-gordon

    The Browns also fined Manziel on Saturday for being late for treatment on his injured hamstring, a source told ESPN. Less than 24 hours later, rookie cornerback Justin Gilbert was deactivated for Sunday’s season finale against the Baltimore Ravens after missing a team meeting the previous night, a source told ESPN.

    Both Manziel and Gordon were absent from the Browns’ walk-through on Saturday morning, and the team had trouble locating them, a source close to the team told ESPN.

    Manziel had to be present for either the walk-through or, since he was on injured reserve, treatment on the hamstring. When he did not show for either, the team had to search for him. Browns security visited Manziel’s home Saturday morning to check on the rookie quarterback about his treatment, sources told ESPN.

    #14834
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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12087118/johnny-manziel-party-led-cleveland-browns-punishment-josh-gordon

    The Browns also fined Manziel on Saturday for being late for treatment on his injured hamstring, a source told ESPN. Less than 24 hours later, rookie cornerback Justin Gilbert was deactivated for Sunday’s season finale against the Baltimore Ravens after missing a team meeting the previous night, a source told ESPN.

    Both Manziel and Gordon were absent from the Browns’ walk-through on Saturday morning, and the team had trouble locating them, a source close to the team told ESPN.

    Manziel had to be present for either the walk-through or, since he was on injured reserve, treatment on the hamstring. When he did not show for either, the team had to search for him. Browns security visited Manziel’s home Saturday morning to check on the rookie quarterback about his treatment, sources told ESPN.

    My Shadenfreude
    overflows.

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    #14840
    sdram
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>sdram wrote:</div>
    I thought I read this last spring before or around the draft? The NFL is the big boy league. It’s looking like Johnnie ain’t gonna get a chance unless he truly shows signs he’s growing on the inside.

    Yeah, but who would you pick
    in a celebrity, reality-show, steel cage match:
    Tebow or Manziel ?

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    I’d have to go with T&T from what I’ve seen so far. If nothing else, he’s a tough sob.

    So, we bought both of our four year old grandsons little itty bitty baby Ram uniforms and helmets for Christmas. One of them thought it was the Old Miss colors – he lives in Mississippi just outside of Memphis. The other one kind of liked it but preferred to play with the 50 shot nerf dart gun his dad bought him. So, it goes to show you – something about something.

    #14895
    Mackeyser
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    Tebow all day.

    Firstly, the guy wins. No one works harder.

    And I’m STILL convinced if he’d made the switch to TE that he’d be an All-Star in this league.

    Lastly, while Tebow didn’t shy away from attention, he didn’t go out of his way to go get it. Manziel seeks it out. I don’t buy for a second that he’s a victim of anything. When you party in Vegas and do scandalous things and hang with famous people… you’re ASKING for attention.

    And frankly, Manziel hasn’t done much with his arm to make me think he’s that much a better QB. At least Tebow can take a shot. Guy’s built like a dang tank.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

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